MDDawg

The first of inane statements from losing Browns coaches on death march

True, he's worse than Hue.

This team is extremely indisciplined, just a bunch of players more concerned about their individual brand. Freddie needs to go, we need a tough personality to mold these guys into a team. Myles and Vernon seeking to pad their stats instead of sticking to the play. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/11/browns-needed-myles-garrett-and-olivier-vernon-to-do-their-job-on-2-key-plays-vs-broncos-and-they-didnt-film-review.html

It's not about Chubb but replacing Hilliard in those situations where Hilliard's on the field in critical situations as we've seen too often this season.

The Braintrust hope Hunt saves their collective a**. That's why Freddie hasn't been fired yet, they hope Hunt can conjure some magic after the catch that Beckham couldn't now that Baker's become checkdown Charlie.

I've revised my 2019 win loss to 5-11. I only see 3 remaining winnable games after yesterday's debacle.

Now the Ravens are up 17 against the Pats.

The most important coaching hire, since the return and the Browns screw it up.

So much for running the table. Can't pick the Browns against anyone for the remainder of the season.

Get the ball in the red zone and we can't even score a TD? Why does he keep throwing to Harris in the endzone? Seals Jones is a much better receiver.

Robinson's starting today Robinson's starting today, lol!

TGZ, I agree with your overall assessment, at this stage the Browns are only one game behind what I expected them to be at this point by losing the Tenessee game (2-5 vs 3-4). My preseason prediction was 10-6 and they may still be on track for that. My problem is the poor coaching displayed by the team: penalties, turnovers and Baker's regression. These are a recipe to lose to even bad teams , which is why fans may be losing their sh*t despite entering the "easier" part of the schedule.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/sports-columns/greg-bedard/kitchens-mayfield-leading-browns-down-the-same-old-road-1883131/ Hot take or some truth in it? Personally I don't think Kitchens is coaching the mistakes out of Mayfield both on and off the field.

OBJ is a world class receiver, Kitchens isn’t using him effectively. The offense lacks identity, they should design it around Chubb then use play action which will get OBJ the ball. Right now the offense is just a lot of experimentation (with some good play design occasionally), the problem is if they don’t start winning Freddie won’t have the opportunity to perfect it.

Baker needs to let his play on the field speak for him rather than trying to win the press conference, which is all the Kitchens led Browns have done since the offseason. Keeping composure under stress is the hallmark of a good QB/coach and neither Freddie or Baker are demonstrating that this season. I know a lot of people hate Grossi but he's been correct more often than not on the post '99 Browns. He wasn't hot on Mayfield being drafted but owned up to it after Mayfield balled out. He was criticized for noting Beckham's absence from OTA and minicamp but we can all see the lack of chemistry between the two now. QB-receiver timing starts early in the offseason program. The worrying thing is that it looks like Mayfield isn't being coached well this season, on the field he's relapsed into some bad habits especially with his footwork, bailing the pocket and rolling to the right at the slightest hint of pressure. Compare how Deshaun Watson answered a reporter's dumb question to Mayfield and you see the difference in leadership.

Avery was simply a victim of Wilke's scheme. Rather than make him inactive for most of the games, they traded him. He was actually a better fit for Gregg Williams scheme as are cornerbacks Ward and Greedy.

Kitchens was a Dorsey hire, the Haslams were enamored with his first full season of work and handed him the keys to the kingdom. If Freddie's fired, Dorsey will most likely hire a veteran coach of which Mike McCarthy and Jim Schwartz are presumed frontrunners.

Ironic that one of our best Oline men, Bitonio was manhandled by the Patriots D line and caused the 1st fumble and contributed to Baker's first interception. As I predicted before the game, the better coach won outright even Chubb's second fumble was a reflection of good coaching, the Patriots cornerback didn't give up on the play and tomahawked the ball out. The problem going forward is that we keep handing teams the game, which is why I doubt we'll win the majority of games in this easier part of the schedule.

We're going to win games but this team is too poorly coached to run the table. Having said that I hope you're right TGZ.

Spoke to soon. I'll now find something else to spend the rest of the afternoon on.

Freddie needs to tell them to keep calm, the game isn't out of reach yet. Both fumbles were a result of defensive pressure, they shouldn't abandon the run game.

It's a winnable game contingent on Freddie fielding a DISCIPLINED team on Sunday. However I have a feeling it will be a close game that the refs will hand to the Patriots..

Tony Grossi stated it succinctly: We lost Freddie the OC when we made him the HC.

He can't do that consistently which is why we beat them. However our run defense has been abysmal since then so unless we improve we'll have difficulty sweeping them.

That Tennessee loss is going to bite us in the a** unless we sweep the ratbirds. I watched the game, they're a well coached team which is why they won today and we lost last week. Unless we suddenly switch to a well disciplined team (which doesn't happen in a bye week) and gain some unexpected victories ( like at NE) we may end up battling for a wild card.