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Could have won the day there Tex... And keep wearing the orange Cardiac Kid pants too... >99%? Maybe we could talk scenarios where the Browns could miss the playoffs- I'll assume starting with two losses. Just beat the Jets Thursday, and we're in. Regarding those TNF games... Yeah, they're a joke- but at least in this case, both the Browns and Jets have to travel to Cleveland. So sorry Friday Night lights, time for the NFL to thumb their noses at High School football. If you're selling out to Peacock for games that fans are going to have to sign up for one week to watch their team? Do the math.

PS- postgame, the Bills win out- and they're in... I'm OK with that....

Browns win two out of three, and it doesn't matter. Bengals lose all division tiebreakers. This is true... I said it elsewhere, as a Browns fan- you wanted the Steelers to win, and in the process- they mutually shot their playoff chances in the feet. I haz composed a little tune... Rudolph the Steeler QB wasn't very good Sitting on the bench... was understood Mason the Steeler QB was so lame, they wouldn't let poor Rudolph play in any Steeler games... then one foggy Christmas Eve, Tomlin came to say Rudolph with your arm so lame, just go out and win this game. then all the Yinzers loved him and they shouted out with glee, Rudolph the lame arm QB you'll go down in history THE END

LOL, you're the one who's embarrassing himself-- Except your pals are too far up Trump's ass to say anything about it... Maybe if you had some 1\2 intelligent rebuttal I might bother responding to you. Keep drinking Kool-Aid. You have nothing, and you're proving it.

Your living in DJT's alternate reality is showing.... Joe is only around 28,000 lies short of the Lyin' King nickers... Don't make me pull a Cal on you and post 5-10 links that say so... Really? You think so? Like keeping track of an unstable nut job power drunk wannabe dictator qualifies? Or watching Court TV, where and when is Donnie's next appearance and appeal going to be to stay out of jail? TOO funny Canton... The MAGAs still think he's the cat's meow because he used to be on a reality TV show. Apparently, you have a problem with that. OTOH, This board suffers collectively from BDS- Biden Derangement Syndrome and DDS- DDS Democrat Derangement Syndrome. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid if it makes you feel better. .

OK, cool beans.... You do know Trump is a pathological liar, on top of his mental problems? I believe stuff The Donald spews as much as his promise that Mexico was going to pay for his wall. That's when I had the first inkling he was going off the rails. It's sort of like his promise Day One in office he's going to shut the boarder down. Do tell Mr. Trump- exactly how? The same way you can declassify documents, just by thinking about it? FWIW nickers- (this would surprise me not at all) Donnie may be telling everyone associated with him those indictments are bullshit. Lotsa luck there Mr. Trump, we'll see about that soon enough.

You and me both... I did check, post trade deadline, a vested player (like Joseph-day) does go through the waiver process. It's not clear if said player can refuse to accept the team he's picked up by... But I suspect he could tell a team like the Panthers pound salt, I'm not going to play for you.

Works for who? Yeah, I know I'm wasting my time bothering to point out stuff to a brick wall... Sick state of mind? Seems there's millions of MAGAs out there who think a guy with multiple mental disorders, and rapidly descending into dementia, is the guy they want to give the Nuke codes back to. You can get GOP policies with Nikki Haley- the last time I checked at least she isn't batshit crazy- and has a better grip on reality. What are you talking about? Waiting for the huge market collapse come 2024? It just hit a record high- no surprise there- Donnie boy is taking credit for. Inflation? Good Lord, something had to give... Near zero inflation for years was a historical anomaly. High gas prices? I just paid $2.45 a gallon... Maybe you'd like another pandemic where no one was driving- so you could get your blessed $1.50 a gallon back. BTW, that crash put a few oil drilling companies out of business. Ah, the never ending GOP mantra cut taxes... And keep on sending the ever increasing national debt further and further up into outer space. Looks like their solution to the problem is to cut entitlement programs.

Well here you have it... Bitonio questionable for Sunday... The Browns also listed LB Anthony Walker Jr. (knee), DE Ogbo Okoronkwo (pectoral), S Juan Thornhill (calf) and LB Jordan Kunaszyk (calf) as out for Sunday's game against the Texans. Walker was a limited participant in practice on Wednesday with the knee injury but did not participate on Thursday.

Fake? Please just stop there... you have to convince a Grand jury (not Biden, not the DOJ) that 1) presenting them what the law says, and 2) that there's sufficient evidence a crime was committed. Rinse and repeat that 91 times in four different jurisdictions nickers. I'll start at the top- FYI guy- 1\2 the time Trump is confused as to what state he's campaigning in. Should you bother to listen to anything he's saying in his MAGA rally speeches, it's a mostly a bunch of incoherent psychobabble. Or stuff he borrowed out of Mein Kamp, guess there'll haul my vermin ass off to a concentration camp for reeducation programming. Mentally, he's no better than Diaper Joe, and Donnie is going downhill fast. Dementia runs in his family- or did you forget that? I'm done here for the time nickers, that record stock market is thanks to Cheetos... Mortgage rates going down, inflation down, price of gas down. Yep- Biden is bad for America, or if you want to believe- whoever is pulling his strings. Other than closing the border- and shipping illegals back whence they came from, care to tell me what the deranged one has in mind for a potential presidency? Healthcare reform? Fixing Social Security? Or, priority #2, his hit list throwing those who have crossed him in jail?

Enjoy your denial and alternate reality pal... Right back at ya trying to protect poor widdle Donnie. Garbage is in the eye of the beholder, and virtually all the stuff that gets posted on this forum IS right wing garbage. My reality says DJT may never spend a day in jail- but he's going to spend the rest of his life in court... You can change your name, but that doesn't change you still have an arrogant knowitall attitude... Set out to destroy him? DJT set those wheels in motion pal... I'll quit playing games if you're willing to admit Trump has been indicted in several state and federal felony cases. Yep, liberal fucktard... Real adult response, what I've come to expect from the Cult. Hardly means I should give you any intelligent response. You don't want to read my stuff? FWIW, 95% of the QAnon conspiracy crap that gets posted here isn't worth my time reading or responding to either .

Those who think they're somehow mentally superior- usually aren't. Take something that doesn't fit your statement disqualifies all of it... Like hell it does pal.... See my response GORKA.

Wah, wah, I got nothing... Got your QAnon card?

Well, as a private citizen, I suppose FYI the Mango Messiah's total lack of morality just might matter to those of us who have a shred of it. Starting with cheating on every one of his wives.... Palling around with Epstein? Sure, nothing to see there either. Bullshit. It's well documented his stiffing subcontractors in his casino days... Regarding being an astute businessman, those of us not drinking the Orange Kool-Aid know about Trump's multiple bankruptcies. Colluding with Russia? How about a call to Zelinksy- can you please get me some dirt on Joe? (or some nonexistent votes in Georgia) I might give you some military aid. The sooner you're willing to admit the guy is a mentally unstable con man, the better your mental health is going to be. Oh gee, I guess you want more clarity to be precise... Boo hoo... So you CONVIENTLY ignored all the illegal crap I posted that he's accused of doing DURING his time in office? Nice try at deflection. I get that you don't like democrats much. I seem to vaguely remember the Muller report said the only reason that they couldn't prosecute him was because he was a sitting president? BTW Gorka, MHO is Trump's appeal to the SCOTUS regarding presidential immunity is going to be dismissed with prejudice. If you take his appeal to it's logical conclusion, it's nothing short of divine right of kings. Donnie could have shot Mike Pence in the head and stabbed Milley in the back- hey no harm, no foul- presidential immunity... 🙄

No comprendo your crap Cal... LOL, usted mucho needo anti psychotic drugs. I think it says you think DJT is the greatest criminal president ever, ever, and he's really not a crook. And to avoid prison he's flying his private jet to Vanuatu. Yep, nothing but bias to see here pal... Just like the above, if you can't respond with intelligent factual rebuttal- just insult and deflect. I understood that was SOP here long ago, so shove your lame right wing biased shit up your ass. Got any QAnon crap that 1\6 was staged by the FBI? Yep, just like I knew the Stage 5 Kool-Aid kids here would think everything I posted was just hunky dory, and Donnie didn't do a think wrong. You going to vote for him if he's in prison? Some of the Cult certainly are.

Republicans love to tout "states rights" until it doesn't suit them. Hold my beer. It may not, or it may.... Those largely REPUBLICAN Supreme Court Justices are going to be forced to clarify exactly what an "insurrection" is. LOL FY- Trump destroyed himself- with damn near zero prodding from Democrats. Can we start with a few FACTS? Lying about raping Ms. Carrol, (twice). About $10 million there. Having Mike Cohen pay off Stormy. Tax fraud in NY- the dog and pony show is just how much he's going to have to pay up. Find me 11,70 votes- and if you've ever listened to the entire call, it's obviously election interference. Uncle RICO is calling... Then we have 1\6 with a million pages of documentation and sworn testimony by REPUBLICANS that Donnie wanted his minions to "fight like hell". And when they did FY- he sat on his fat ass in the White House while others told him to call off the mob. To top it off, we have the MAGA Retardo documents stuff down Florida way unless his "Loose" Cannon judge bails him out- it's an open and shut case of improperly handling top secret documents- and to top it off, showing them to folks without the proper security clearance. Go cry 91 felony counts FY. So fuck your what about Biden, Joe is a relative saint by comparison. Yeah, you have the right to not incriminate yourself- but Donnie is just too much of a malignant narcist not to do so. I'm not a great Biden fan, but the Trump Kool-Aid sadly has seriously rotted your brain.

Just beat the Texans first Browns. That puts our odds at 99%, Beating the Jets TNF it's 100%- and we're in. I related news, the Falcons poached Tommy Togai off of our practice squad, and signed him to their active roster.

For a change, nice to see an opposing team with an injury report as long as ours. 😉 https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/injury-report/ The above = Drama Queen... Flacco is playing count on it.

FWIW, Nex Gen stats... Browns win = 99% probability of playoffs... Loss, the odds fall to 78%.. Gosh I hate rooting for the Steelers (7% playoff odds) but they can do the Browns an immense favor beating the Bengals Saturday.

That could be totally unrelated.... FWIW, Soldier Field, and whatever they're calling Arrowhead in Kansas City now are far older. I'm not deaf to the yapping for a new stadium, and having made the rounds to other NFL venues... Yeah- First energy isn't all that great by comparison. They screwed up building it on the fly and cheap... I've said many times keeping sardine city behind the stands is a HUGE fault to keep the "feel" of the old stadium... Tough sell? More like impossible. If you want a dome like Lucas Oil or Ford Field- forget about it. Even going open air, a new place would cost at least $2 billion.... Plus (if you want to believe him) Haslam has said he would prefer staying put and investing big bucks into a renovation. Sure it could be done, look at what Ohio State and the Bears did respectively.

But we can add in five more 1,000 yard seasons he had with other teams. Oh, I had to look it up, Cooper's career yardage of 9,200 easily surpasses Newsom's total. FWIW he'll need around 1,000 more career yards to break into the top 50 all time. And checking that list, records are made to be broken, but Jerry Rice's 22,000 is the Mount Everest of receiving yards. no one will get close to that in our lifetimes, 17 game seasons or not.

True 'Peen... I had to go to Pro Football Reference and get out the calculator. Jim Brown gained a tad over 1,500 yards in a 12 game season. That's 125 yard average EVERY game. Extrapolate that to 17 games, and it works out to 2,100 yards.

That's true, but he's going to do it in game 16. 😉 With the longer seasons, a lot of those records are rendered obsolete. Jim Brown racked up 1,000+ yards rushing in 12 and 14 game seasons.

A few years ago, I made it a goal to complete the entire Ohio to Erie Trail. Living in Dayton the biking capital of SW Ohio... Over a period of years I had ridden it East as far as Big Darby near Columbus, as far south as Newtown near Cincinnati, and the Towpath from Harvard road to Massillon. So all that was left was about a 150 miles. The stretch west of Columbus to Massillon, and 15 mile jogs north from Harvard Road in Cleveland to the lake, and South of Newtown through Cincinnati to the Ohio River. If I had been able to ride point to point I could have done it a lot quicker- had to break it up into out and back chunks. BTW, parts of the trail signage sucked, and I wasted a lot of hours trying to figure out where the trail was, or having to double back because I missed a trail turnoff. Finally my big victory, putting the wheel of my Waterford in Lake Erie to say I finished... I found out a real interesting fact. I use SPD-L cleats, getting wet sand in them is a BAD idea. Riding back through the Edgewater parking lot it was like having your cleats glued to the pedals with super glue. Zero mph crash- and I kid you not I had to get my feet out of the shoes and rip them off the pedals. Fortunately I had enough water to clean up the cleats.

ESPN solved my confusion as to how the Bengals suddenly vaulted up into the #6 seed. They beat the Colts and Bills head to head. I can't see the beat up Steelers managing to give the Bengals another loss. So their road game against the Chiefs becomes mighty important. Browns perspective? They need to win at least two out of our final three games, so the finale against the Bengals becomes moot.