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FWIW, Nex Gen stats... Browns win = 99% probability of playoffs... Loss, the odds fall to 78%.. Gosh I hate rooting for the Steelers (7% playoff odds) but they can do the Browns an immense favor beating the Bengals Saturday.

That could be totally unrelated.... FWIW, Soldier Field, and whatever they're calling Arrowhead in Kansas City now are far older. I'm not deaf to the yapping for a new stadium, and having made the rounds to other NFL venues... Yeah- First energy isn't all that great by comparison. They screwed up building it on the fly and cheap... I've said many times keeping sardine city behind the stands is a HUGE fault to keep the "feel" of the old stadium... Tough sell? More like impossible. If you want a dome like Lucas Oil or Ford Field- forget about it. Even going open air, a new place would cost at least $2 billion.... Plus (if you want to believe him) Haslam has said he would prefer staying put and investing big bucks into a renovation. Sure it could be done, look at what Ohio State and the Bears did respectively.

But we can add in five more 1,000 yard seasons he had with other teams. Oh, I had to look it up, Cooper's career yardage of 9,200 easily surpasses Newsom's total. FWIW he'll need around 1,000 more career yards to break into the top 50 all time. And checking that list, records are made to be broken, but Jerry Rice's 22,000 is the Mount Everest of receiving yards. no one will get close to that in our lifetimes, 17 game seasons or not.

True 'Peen... I had to go to Pro Football Reference and get out the calculator. Jim Brown gained a tad over 1,500 yards in a 12 game season. That's 125 yard average EVERY game. Extrapolate that to 17 games, and it works out to 2,100 yards.

That's true, but he's going to do it in game 16. 😉 With the longer seasons, a lot of those records are rendered obsolete. Jim Brown racked up 1,000+ yards rushing in 12 and 14 game seasons.

A few years ago, I made it a goal to complete the entire Ohio to Erie Trail. Living in Dayton the biking capital of SW Ohio... Over a period of years I had ridden it East as far as Big Darby near Columbus, as far south as Newtown near Cincinnati, and the Towpath from Harvard road to Massillon. So all that was left was about a 150 miles. The stretch west of Columbus to Massillon, and 15 mile jogs north from Harvard Road in Cleveland to the lake, and South of Newtown through Cincinnati to the Ohio River. If I had been able to ride point to point I could have done it a lot quicker- had to break it up into out and back chunks. BTW, parts of the trail signage sucked, and I wasted a lot of hours trying to figure out where the trail was, or having to double back because I missed a trail turnoff. Finally my big victory, putting the wheel of my Waterford in Lake Erie to say I finished... I found out a real interesting fact. I use SPD-L cleats, getting wet sand in them is a BAD idea. Riding back through the Edgewater parking lot it was like having your cleats glued to the pedals with super glue. Zero mph crash- and I kid you not I had to get my feet out of the shoes and rip them off the pedals. Fortunately I had enough water to clean up the cleats.

ESPN solved my confusion as to how the Bengals suddenly vaulted up into the #6 seed. They beat the Colts and Bills head to head. I can't see the beat up Steelers managing to give the Bengals another loss. So their road game against the Chiefs becomes mighty important. Browns perspective? They need to win at least two out of our final three games, so the finale against the Bengals becomes moot.

Tex, Growing up in Cleveland, about 45 miles north of Canal Fulton... I always thought, "wow, that's a weird name for a town". When I completed the Ohio to Erie Bike Trail a few years back, I found out why.... There really is a canal in Canal Fulton. it's been restored...they even offer canal boat rides in the summer. The bike path is right next to canal, After 100+ years, a lot of the canal has reverted back to it's natural state- and BTW downtown Akron sits directly on top of what used to be the canal. When you ride the path next to it, you can't help but be amazed at the amount of manual ditch digging labor was involved to create it before the age of steam shovels and bulldozers. A trench 20 feet wide, probably eight feet deep, and hundreds of miles long. https://www.ohioanderiecanalway.com/plan/listings/canal-fulton-canalway-center/

Section 111 Row 9. Roughly on the 20 yard line field level. That's what 30+ years worth of seniority will get you. FWIW, MHO the best seats are in the 100 level last row, you're under cover, and can knock on the floor of the owner's box. Just me, but I feel Club seats are over rated. You get nicer bars, restrooms, and the area behind the seats is heated\ air conditioned.

Se below, me too. We're going to lose for sure- until we didn't. Tex, though you probably weren't following the Kardiac Kids back then- BUT I'll put in my request right now.. Shades of the Kids, keep wearing the orange pants for the rest of the year home and away. I don't care if Doug Dieken hated them, I love 'em. Towards the end, the Browns had guys playing O-line I didn't even know were on the roster... And as was said, that was the Buffalo Springfield "For what it's worth". speaking of Buffalo... No comprendo how them damn Bungles are now the #6 seed, unless they beat BOTH Buffalo and the Texans. 🙄 Ditto there Dutch... I'm back in town for my pal's 50th wedding anniversary on the 26th, and the whole crew is heading to the TNF game.... And my other pal had better stop calling me a "curse" I'm 3-1 this year... And the supposed REAL "curse" that would be my wife- is now 2-0. BTW I was at the game too, and the weather didn't turn out 1\2 as hateful as predicted.... Just occasional drizzle, and the rain stopped well before 2PM.

Damn right it is... I'll take Chubb on one leg today for the upcoming mud bowl. Forecast is mid 40s and steady rain until at least 2PM... Win the turnover battle Cleveland.

Not good prognosticating Z, damn Viqueens, couldn't beat the Bungles... I'll take a Squealer loss, but unfortunately I don't see them beating the Bengals- at least once. Yeah, them Bungles now hold the #7 seed, but not if either the Texans or Bills win today... However I have very BAD news for you today Z.... Due to the nephew backing out of going to the game at the last minute.... Both me AND "The Curse" will be in attendance today, in duck weather no less... Not too happy about it either. I'll accept donations to stay at my pal's house and stay dry. 😉 MHO? Whoever wins the turnover battle will win the game, the pigskin is going to be really slippery in the rain.

Make that prosecution Steve... The guy engaged in criminal activity long before he became president.... If you think all those 91 felony counts are bogus, (and civil cases BTW, don't forget what's going on in New York is only to determine how much he's going to have to pay up) you're living in some alternate Trump reality. LOL I've come to realize- of course you do, considering your opinion that 1\6 was no big deal. Do you approve of Donnie's MAGA mob issuing multiple death threats against election workers by one of his pals? I don't. As I see it, Rudy has two futures in front of him... Either flat broke living out of a car, or at least he'll have a roof over his head- in prison when the Georgia RICO case is over. 😉

Because Rudy Patootie just got his pants sued off of him.... This is only step one, when Smartmatic gets done with him, he not only won't have any pants, he's going to wind up like those homeless street people. Bankruptcy Court is on the near horizon.... Poor guy... Every thing Trump touches- dies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo1RdMTmGak

LOL, his former pals are flipping faster than those flapjacks at International House of Pancakes> But whatever...

You apparently haven't spent enough time on the Poli Board to fully grasp it KD..... There's several posters here who refuse to post there. FWIW, there's really no "discussion" going on there. Without getting into too many details, If you have a certain POV, you're one of their Cult. Try to play in their sandbox with an opposing POV, and get ready for a barrage of ad hominum attacks, libtard, or in my case a "drunk". So please tell me how THAT enables intelligent discussion. It's essentially a Forum of unmoderated & mostly unverifiable conspiracy bullshit.

Regarding the Chargers spin cycle machine... Rebuild your resume as a coordinator, the job offers will come. 😉

LOL, that the best you got? FWIW poor Cal doesn't need any booze, he's so far out there in the Alternate Trump reality, no booze or drugs needed.

Though I believe you're aware Tex, for those who aren't.... if you get skunked on not getting the Browns live broadcast, NFLN rebroadcasts the games o a periodic basis the following week. But the exact times don't show up until Monday or so....

I was hoping the Dolphins weren't going to put in their scrubs earlier this season- to break the all-time record for points scored in an NFL game... Hey, records are made to be broken.

Well suck it up buttercup if stuff that isn't right wing conspiracy hurts your feelings, and you don't want it posted here. Unfortunately, I don't have the time or inclination to post stuff here on a daily basis from YouTube like Farron Balanced, The Damage Report, Glenn Kirshner, Medias Touch Network, or David Packman.... That would REALLY piss you off. 1) I have blood on my hands? LOL!!! Well Doctor (he thinks he is) Trump killed around 500,000 AMERICANS telling folks masks were optional, drink bleach or shove a UV light up your ass. And it was going to be gone by Easter- remember? FWIW, if he was an average schmuck like us- he'd most likely already be dead, except the Docs managed to save his sorry ass using some experimental treatments when he caught his beloved "China Virus". 2) Regarding your BOLD you have no way in hell of know that- pure projection about the Mango Messiah. As far as Ukraine goes, damn right, because it would now be a puppet state of his pal Vlad. Ah, believe whatever the hell you want to Cal.... There's maybe a 5% chance I'd vote for Nikki Haley, but ZERO I'll ever consider voting for a guy who has 91 felony counts against him. If you think all those charges are bogus, have another swig of the Orange Kool-Aid. It literally boggles my mind the RNC is even thinking about giving him the nomination.

Coming from a teetotaler, I totally understand your lack of understanding regarding wine. When you have nothing, INSULT- loser... Again, thanks for proving what I just posted- you right wing nut jobs don't want to hear anything that goes against the unverified crap that gets posted here. Like those millions of bogus ballots. From the looks of your posting, seems like you spend hours every day scanning The Blaze, Patriot Alerts, News Max, and probably Epoch Times for the conspiracy of the day... So you can post it here and and get no responses. That's what crazy people do- talk to themselves. And to paraphrase Winston Churchill's famous quote, I may have been drunk in the past- but today I'm dead sober, however you're still one psychotic loony.

I thought this was an open forum for political discussion, so fuck off.... Gee, did I hit a nerve there? Don't need any stinking meds? Then you had G*ddamn better stop insulting me as a drunk. Too late for you to grow the f**k up already. You 75 year old paranoid delusional. Those most in need of psychiatric care usually are those in most denial thereof. Start trouble? I think I've said it at least couple dozen times, THIS ISN'T POLITICAL DISCUSSION, IT'S A FUCKING RIGHT WING ECHO CHAMBER. You've just proved my point psycho... So much hatred loser... FYI, the only reason your psychotic ass is still on this Forum is Steve (as part of the QAnon Cult) won't ban any nut jobs- like you. Not just family members BTW Cal- includes your neighbors...

You sound like the Eeyore's I've seen on other Browns forums. Woe is us!!! Too many injuries, we're not going to win another game. Unless you're an orthopedic surgeon, your comment regarding Watson is pure speculation. Hate the guy much? Yep... Clueless on how the salary cap works? Ditto.

I will tell you this Cal- CC is most definitely not me.. Have you taken your antipsychotic meds today?