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I’d be very surprised if Trevor sieman gets more than 150 yards today.

I think the dolphins/ravens will be quite a good game, better than the 9ers disaster.

But I do think the ravens win that one, if not then the Steelers always screw with the ravens so that scenario is possible.

Either way I have basically 0 confidence in the things falling in our favor to win the AFCN.  Would love it, but I just can’t see the ravens losing out at this point. I just would want them to lose to the dolphins so they have to play starters in week 18

28 minutes ago, Flugel said:

If the Browns end up with the best wildcard record, their 1st round opponent would be the winner of the AFC South. That's pretty fricken cool!

Before I invest in that fully, the Browns HAVE to beat the Jets.  

I believe a W is all they need to clinch #5, with a win wee play for nothing in bengals week unless Miami upsets Baltimore 

13 minutes ago, hoorta said:

No, at least not in the first round. The division winners always get a home playoff game, even with an inferior record to a wildcard.  In theory- the Browns could host a playoff game as the #5, but with the current standings...  the wildcards would 1) ALL have to beat the Jags, Chiefs and Dolphins- on the road... And top it off 2) someone would have to knock off the #1 seed Ravens in the second round too. 

If the season ended today, the Browns would get a rematch with the Jaguars in Jacksonville. But FWIW, wildcards have won the Super Bowl, being the road team entirely. 

Sucks if we get to 12 wins and still not win the division, sucks to be in the best I guess.

if we clinch the 5 seed, then playing the AFC South winner is the best matchup we could hope for. I wouldn’t wanna go into arrowhead to kick things off 

7 hours ago, syd said:

siemian to play wilson concussed

I actually feel bad for sieman that his next chance to play comes in Cleveland in a game we need to win to clinch.

Go up 45-0 in the first half so the backups can finish the second half

39 minutes ago, Ibleedbrown said:

I just caught wind of this, Dorian off to IR.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/browns-place-dorian-thompson-robinson-on-ir 

Bummer.

That’s too bad, I guess he took some hits in garbage time that should have been avoided. Wrap Joey Flacco in bubble wrap

He may be able to come back for the afc championship though 😉

On 12/21/2023 at 6:15 AM, Orion said:

After we lost to the Rams I said that we'd need to win the next 4 games and not have to go into Cincinnati the final week and have to win.  We're half way there!

I said we would unexpectedly lose to the jets and then win 5 in a row, which I’m ok with 

Joe Flacco made some seriously elite throws, I mean that sideline throw falling forward to cooper was nuts. 
 

Merry Christmas all!

Go San Francisco!

4 hours ago, Korsou Dawg said:

Fenerbahçe VS Galatasaray The Intercontinental Derby No chance they are showing anything else I'm afraid.

A rivalry with quite a bit of history: "The first game played between the two sides was a friendly game on Sunday, 17 January 1909." 

Apparently they do have it because there’s some weird pay per view stuff and the bar has people pay money to watch it in a separate area, the part nobody wants to be has the browns game 

In Istanbul there is a big soccer match apparently, that will be over by the browns game but the bar that shows the browns game would rather show the postgame of the soccer match since I guess people care about that here 🙃

Cleveland 30

Houston 17

I normally give outlandish predictions since why would I ever predict a browns loss, but I think this one might actually be close to reality. They are quite banged up with a questionable pass D, a QB like Keenum seems much less dangerous with our pass rush.

Win not only cements our playoff spot (not really but basically), but it would also help keep the pressure on Baltimore especially if they lose to the 9ers - want them to play starters through the end.

Nobody should be surprised the feel good Jake browning story hit a wall, he made so many really lucky lame duck throws where his receivers bailed him out last night.

I hope I can find a pub to watch the browns in Istanbul tonight, if so:

browns 30 Houston 17

And ravens I won’t watch but

49ers 23 Ravens 17

Kinda surprised we’re favorites on the road, even without stroud

Maybe I’ll be able to find it in Istanbul since it dominates the map 😁

If we beat the Texans losing a playoff spot becomes pretty much impossible.

Keenum doesn’t concern me nearly as much as Stroud, but he can still win games and if he was the browns starter after Watson went down I’d be more confident in him than DTR

I saw Hickman (safety) got a PFF grade of 90 last week, highest graded rookie in week 15

Another detail that wasn’t talked about much is the browns actually won a coin toss for once.

Instead of choosing kick/receive, they chose the direction they wanted to defend. One side of the field was way worse than the other (in terms of the swirling wind) they accomplished two things

1) The bears didn’t attempt a 2nd quarter 50+ yard field goal due to the wind gusts towards the locker rooms - it would have been an extremely tough kick to make.

2) The browns were setup with favorable wind at their backs in the 4th for the game winning kick.

Just think that’s a pretty cool and intelligent coaching detail, quite possibly the game was won because of that little coin flip decision.

8 minutes ago, Flugel said:

My bad - sorry for the misinterpret on my part.  I don't think a lot of fans outside of Cleveland (around the league) are aware of how injury decimated this roster is.  It's getting to the point where the Browns have to play teams the final 3 weeks that they'd easily rathouse if their injury volume was only slightly unreasonable.  It's exceeded that unfortunately.  

When it comes to who we're playing next - it makes no sense for me to predict an outcome.  I say that because we've had so many bad last minute surprises about who's inactive this week on a roster that can ill-afford 1 to miss 1 more starter.  

 

I think the Texans are the 2nd most injured team besides us, but I’d imagine they’ll have stroud back against us which is like a Justin fields except actually good. But yea our easy stretch isn’t looking so easy (aside from maybe the jets still)

I believe our injury list will lighten up a little at least, Pocic, Bitonio, Thornhill, Walker will possibly be back. But our running game is seriously broken and Flacco throwing 45 times isn’t sustainable - that’s something they’ll need to figure out with the 3rd string OL they’re trotting out there

58 minutes ago, Flugel said:

Thanks for the hindsight 20/20 but I wasn't the one predicting an easy 34-10 victory.  That was you.  If you actually read what I said I made it a point to say "Gumbs, I had a feeling the Bears would give us all we could handle given how much of our salary cap is on IR."   If that's not enough I posted this in this week's tale of the Tape thread. "It's a great story we all like; but we're only 1 or 2 more injuries up front from Flacco feeling like he's playing for the Jets again."

FWIW, Nick Harris was supposed/projected to be the starting Center in 2022 according to Stefanski until his season ending injury in the preseason game at Jax; so I think he's better than a lot of 2nd/3rd string Centers in this league.  The 2nd string guy playing LT doesn't look that much worse, if any, than Wills looked (while the 1 thing we can agree on is yesterday was his worst outing so far).  It's also conceivable that Dunn isn't 100% healthy given he just came off IR about 4 weeks ago. 

 

Whoa, I was just saying maybe Dunn doesn’t have the same chemistry with those guys, combined with being on IR and not playing for awhile could be part of the reason too, good point. You said you would cut Dunn some slack and I agreed.

Also it may have been a multi score victory, I just didn’t predict Flacco throwing a couple touchdowns to the wrong team 😁

43 minutes ago, blitzz2 said:

Man, with Joe Flacco you can see the calmness and pocket presence. He just doesnt' get rattled. I loved the replay where they showed his eyes on the dropback, just scanning the field. And that pass and anticipation throw to Cooper was just sick. He's developing a good rapport with Njoku, and I think that is just boosting Njoku confidence. Was a great pickup by the Browns to grab Joe. MG does have legitimate complaints, seen the 1 play, was clearly wrapped around the neck and wasnt called. Regardless, Hopkins is the real thing and nice to finally have consistency at the Kicker. 

They don’t call holds against the browns ever, I’d be more fine with that if they didn’t call much less egregious holds against our offense repeatedly.

Joey Flacco is really playing like he did in his prime ravens years…the tight windows, downfield throws, picks, 4th quarter insurgence were all common occurrences in his career. The exception being the 2012 postseason where he went 11-0 TD-INT ratio. I really thought we’d see the check down happy feet Joe, but that guy is back to his loose gunslinger ways.

The pass to cooper is an all-time throw, doesn’t get any better than that but I’m sure the coaches were gasping as soon as he let it go. 

Jags blowing field goals and Lawrence dropping the ball untouched - jags shitting the bed against the ravens

55 minutes ago, Flugel said:

Dunn is usually way better than he played today.  I'll cut him some slack for the way he stepped up vrs SF earlier this year.  Gumbs I had a feeling the Bears would give us all we could handle given how much of our salary cap is on IR.

To quote the lyrics: "There's something happening here. What is is ain't exactly clear...."

It changes a lot when both the guys next to you are also second and third stringers. Dunn is a solid backup, but when you have your main center and tackle out it’s tougher.