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Yeah, just saw this.

Low risk move. I wonder if Tomlin will allow the RW "team" in the locker room. He has his own trainer & nutritionist. I read it drove the Denver locker room nuts.

This doesn't look like your typical Steeler move. I don't know how much RW has left, they'll soon find out.

8 minutes ago, tiamat63 said:

If true, that's an absolute steal.

 

Also reaffirms why they were looking so lightly at WR for combine meets and more IDL + IOL

Let's hope so. 57 games in 4 years, lots of upside.

4 hours ago, Flugel said:

Unfortunately, their ownership hasn't allowed them to since the onset of the 70s. Bradshaw was still getting benched in his 5th season for Joe Gilliam and Terry Hanratty. Not many ownerships would have been that patient (per Bradshaw's stats below). In our rivalry with Pittsburgh - it's safe to say patience beat knee jerk more than we wanted it to.  

Year	Team	Lg	G	GS	Att	Cmp	Pct	Yds	YPA	YPG	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lg	FD	20+	Sack	Loss	Rate
1970	Pittsburgh	NFL	13	--	218	83	38.1	1,410	6.5	108.5	6	2.8	24	11.0	87t	--	--	25	242	30.4
1971	Pittsburgh	NFL	14	--	373	203	54.4	2,259	6.1	161.4	13	3.5	22	5.9	49	--	--	33	287	59.7
1972	Pittsburgh	NFL	14	--	308	147	47.7	1,887	6.1	134.8	12	3.9	12	3.9	78t	--	--	29	237	64.1
1973	Pittsburgh	NFL	10	--	180	89	49.4	1,183	6.6	118.3	10	5.6	15	8.3	67	--	--	24	186	54.5
1974	Pittsburgh	NFL	8	--	148	67	45.3	785	5.3	98.1	7	4.7	8	5.4	56	--	--	10	104	55.2

I actually remember from '71 on, and never understood the Joe Gillam thing with Bradshaw.

The Steelers franchise really turned on that Immaculate Reception play, similar to the more modern day Tuck Rule with Brady.

The Steelers had a few down years in the 80s, but since '72 they've been really consistently good (damnit).

8 hours ago, BernieSuperBowl2 said:

Fuck the Steelers. This is the new and improved version of the Browns! Steelers got lucky Chubb got injured in Week 2. 

I hate em too, it's just crazy they never truly suck 

1 hour ago, BernieSuperBowl2 said:

That would be great news if Wilson signed with the Steelers. He's completely washed up. He benefited from playing with a top 5 all-time defense and the best running back in the league at the time in Marshawn Lynch when he was in Seattle. If he signs with the Steelers that's an easy two W's for us next year.  

Did you just type "easy two W's" ....

Nothing's ever easy regarding the Browns vs Steelers unfortunately....

1 hour ago, MLD Woody said:

I'm mean this with as much respect as possible, but do you think that you place a lower importance on social issues because of your place within society? Meaning, given your characteristics, preferences, genetics, etc, there aren't really any social issues greatly affecting you?

You aren't a woman one hundred years ago trying to get the right to vote, for example. 

It's possible, sure. 

The caveat is that the emphasis on social issues may impact us all in time. Some already have- I grew up in the city of Cleveland when Judge Battisti ruled on the desegregation case- the Cleveland schools, and to a degree the whole region were effected in a negative way. 

We all look at issues differently, that's fine. I just try to triage them, kind of simplify how they effect my family.

@calfoxwc, here is that Maslow chart.

14 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

state of the union has been a campaign speech, in recent times....True

You've maybe had enough of roe v Wade, but the women that are affected and losing their rights very much do care

I do understand that many are upset about Roe vs Wade. I don't think government should meddle in choices.

I'm probably insensitive in saying this (writing), but social issues aren't high on my priorities for our nation. I'm more of a "Maslow Hierarchy of Needs" voter. Give me safety, security, wages, shelter. 

I suppose one could argue that abortion falls under the "safety" aspect. But then again, it's a choice. 

I'm watching now. 

Opens a SOTU begging for money for Ukraine. What?

The State of the Union is now another campaign speech? Finger pointing.

Roe vs Wade. Sorry folks, I've had enough of this (for 50+ years). Yeah, let's run on social issues....

We're in trouble if this guy gets re elected. 

31 minutes ago, FY56 said:

 

The Republicans are the lesser of two evils. Way lesser.

 

 

But if you're looking for a third-party candidate that has any hope of being elected, Trump is the closest to third party candidate there is... 

 

 

I voted Trump in 2016. He reeled me in on the "repeal & replace" Obamacare. It didn't happen, Congress didn't approve. He should have pushed harder, got it back to the floor after tweaking his plan. 

That was his main campaign focus, from what I recall. While you can't always get what you want, I think he quit on that promise, repeal & replace. That's not leadership IMHO. 

36 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

then vote for Pres Trump. He isn't a dem, and he is a rep that LEADS and wants congress to get off their asses

and SOLVE PROBLEMS when exec orders can't do it.

Which party do you think has any chance of solving a problem?

Not buyin "both parties are imperfect, so both are equally as bad as the other" bs.

that is just asinine.

    Pres Trump is the only one who caters to the average American.

That makes him a threat to all the dems, and some of the reps.

VOTE PRES TRUMP TO SAVE AMERICA FROM THE DEMS and REP cowards.

I don't see it that way.

You live in Ohio, just like me. I don't see Rs solving any problems at all.

And regarding Trump, well he isn't entirely wrong but we've been there & done that already. I've stated this here enough, it will be a total bleep-show if he somehow wins this election (same with Biden). 3rd party it is....admit it.

24 minutes ago, FY56 said:

There are only two parties. Which do you choose?

At this point of my life, neither one. 

Dems were my preference for awhile but I still voted for an R on occasion, mainly on the national level because I always believed Rs were better on foreign policy 

As I've grown older, dug a little deeper, I find the 2 parties disgusting. They cater to the big $$ not the average citizen. 

54 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Any time any of you unironically use the term "demonrats" it's the funniest thing. 

 

And our polarization grows, but it's all the OTHER side's fault!

Yep lol.....I find it funny/sad people think the future of America lies in the hands of any single political party. 

We all need to be smarter, but is that really going to happen?

The RW trade wasn't really the killer, it was Denver giving him a crazy contract extension before he ever took a snap for them, 5 years $245 million. 

It's amazing that TWO teams (Seattle, $26 million, Denver $85 million) are paying him to NOT be their QB, kicking him off the roster. 

He must be some kind of locker room headache, wow. 

PS- hopefully the Browns don't have to do something like this in the 2024/25 off season with DW.

5 minutes ago, Ghoolie Always Ghoolie said:

 

I am a Browns fan. 31 NFL teams, their fans, their owners, their stadium workers and even people who provide services to them, all suck dick.

 

Bingo

On 2/25/2024 at 8:35 AM, Flugel said:

  I'm not going to lie to you though - I really miss the fun of the Browns being in the mix to draft an immediate impact in round 1.  NOOOOOOOOOOO

IMO, Berry kicked ass last off-season. 

Yikes lol. You really don't!

I don't miss it at all. Here are some  reasons....

50,000 Steeler fans in the stands because Browns fans sold their seats.

Continuous 5-11 seasons, followed by 4-40-1

Continuous "draft" speculation here instead of possible playoff talk as early as October.

Ray Farmer. Johnny Manziel.

Shoot, I got a headache, gotta go......😬

1 hour ago, calfoxwc said:

the idea of it is an exercise in wasting most of an election on unelectable candidates,

making it easier to the minority to vote as a block to win where in a fair election, they wouldn't have a chance.

 

 

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  The flaw in ranked-choice voting: rewarding extremists

  In ranked-choice voting, if no candidate gets a majority of the vote, candidates are iteratively dropped from the election and their support is reallocated among the remaining candidates until one ...
• https://alaskapolicyforum.org › 2020 › 10 › failed-experiment-rcv

   

   

It's kind of like a primary, reading this link.

Also, just my opinion, but there's a bunch of "electable" candidates, who become "unelectable" by media coverage or "the party" (either D or R). The two major parties have rigged debates so "outsiders" can't get on stage. It's wrong.

Brazil doesn't excite me. Germany would be a blast, & I heard Tottenham is great.

1 hour ago, Orion said:

Thank you Denzel!   Nice work Andrew!  We need Denzel.  

I like the Browns' depth in the secondary! 

They just restructured Denzel Ward's contract, supposedly it saves #11 million on this year's cap.

Ward

13 minutes ago, Flugel said:

Right now, I have the insatiable appetite of an empty stomach heading to an all you can eat buffet.  Unfortunately, that's being teased with the reality most/half our picks are in rounds 5 and 7 (where instant/immediate help isn't often found). One nice thing, the Browns got a talented Tackle like Dawand Jones as late as round 4 last year.

Yep. It sure seems like Berry's best work (and the scouts) has been in the later stages of the draft. Let's hope it continues. 

While many fans are desperate for that stud WR, I'd love to see an upgrade at LB. 

Also, don't ignore the O line

3 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

- this board has been a never ending trump rally. A group of posters here briefly made it seem like they wanted someone else, then fell back in line to kiss the ring

- the idea that Trump truly "loves" America and he's doing all of this out of his love for America and his fellow Americans is fucking hilarious btw. Trump loves himself, his ego, and money. Amazing that some people can't see that. 

Yep. 

It's truly an odd thing. My conclusion is people want "change" in DC but are unwilling to take a chance on some other candidate. I totally get why they want Biden gone, (so do I), but in their quest to rid the USA of Biden, they forget about Trump's flaws. 

9 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

Awful election between to awful, old, shitty ducks

I'll pick the duck that I feel is less dangerous overall 

I've done that, I bet quite a few here have as well.

I'm slamming the door on Ds & Rs in '24.

9 hours ago, Canton Dawg said:

 

However, it looks like we are being forced to choose between a shit sandwich, and a shit sandwich with mustard.

Well, I'm opting for another menu, but I won't beat my dead horse to death.

We have other choices. I know they aren't perfect. But we do know Ds & Rs are far from perfect lol.

1 hour ago, Canton Dawg said:

There was this little thing called a Pandemic the last year Trump was in office.

You know that virus that has killed over a million Americans under the Dementia Joe regime.

Before Dementia Joe we had cheap gas, low inflation, low taxes, and a secure border, but Joe fucked it up.

Yes. 

I'm probably the only one here thinking we're doomed either way with Trump vs Biden. 

I really want to be wrong, but neither of these guys are going to be able to do a good job. Two lame ducks as soon as they get inaugurated. Please folks, think about it.