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At one point, Stroud was #2 in the NFL against zone coverage.  So Ward needs to be ready to go, because our zone coverage rates climb quite a bit. 

On 1/11/2024 at 5:06 PM, calfoxwc said:

Jim Schwartz needs to be the next HC of the Browns.

 

Everytime I see you on this football board now. 

Re: Schwartz. 

 Pretty understood, from his time in DET, that he's sort of an asshole.  Now, he's closer to 60 than he was in 2010, so maybe he's chilled out a bit and took on an actual leadership role. 

 In the same theme, the man is closer to 60 now. He might not be interested in taking on a head coaching job at this point.  

9 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

Yes, the billboard is real. He has tons of billboards all over. I live 40+ miles from Cleveland and they are all over, plus he's been doing commercials for years.

He's so well-known that he actually has some billboards with no writing, just his face. THAT's how famous he is here. 

 

If you ever get a chance to meet the man - don't.  

I knew a girl who was a paralegal at one of his offices (he has a couple locations) and I was invited to a 'race night'   The pre-recorded horse race videos, the raffles, open bar, etc etc. 

 Anyhizzle, The Mis makes a cameo appearance. He might have been there 30 minutes?  Yeah.... Belligerent douchebag, especially to the serving staff. 

 I might be a sarcastic asshole, and yes I can come across as brash at times; but I'm fair and a bit more measured than most.  T.M. though? Total shitbird. 

 Obviously this is becoming of nothing and he's a local media sensation, it's just a shame it has to be attached to such a miserable human. 

 HOU is solid against the run and, well, CLE isn't currently a good rushing team.  Given that Anderson and most of the Texans Dline will be back to play, it's going to take a hell of an effort from the Oline and Ford to make them respect running the rock enough to keep them from teeing off on Flacco. 

 Pressure rates rise, turnovers tend to come with it.  Joe needs to avoid the silly throws, including the one's we've seen where they miraculously break our way and don't hurt the offense.  That only goes so far before it bites you in the ass. 

 Texans Oline is shaky, Brownies pass rush will be what makes or breaks the day. Stroud is a great young QB.  But he's still a rookie making his first playoff start.  That and don't let Singletary pop off chunk runs on those HB delays.  That hurt is a couple times last out, and I can't stress how difficult it is beating the same team twice in one season at any level.   

In the end I'm just grateful to see another playoff game given the state of the roster. Should be a great wildcard weekend. 

1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said:

I'm not sure Tex has ever suggested the Browns to draft a non-Aggie in all the years he's been here 😏

Wait, there are others besides A&M?!     My.  Gawd.  

10 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

 

No worries. Ainias Smith will beat him out in training camp.🤣

Without even looking up that name I know he has to play for A&M. 

 Not a fan, but don't hate it either because I know they wanted to get Jamaal in the end zone for his only TD of the year. 

 That said, Famous Jameis put an even bigger target on his back if he ever gets snaps. Especially against ATL.

14 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

Right on cue.... another four yard loss. 

Bills running game is interesting because, in a sense, it reminds me of Florida with Tebow and the Percy, Demps, Rainey and Moody.   

Tim handles the interior running game and functions as another de-factor running back (Allen)

Cook functions as the perimeter runner given that his frame, 5'10, 190lbs, isn't holding up taking 18+ carries a game.  He's averaging near 5ypc too.   

Just now, bbedward said:

Not browns Texans related but wtf is Josh Allen doing, man is a dumb turnover machine.

He was staring at an easy 2 yard first down throw, decided to roll out and chuck a prayer to the endzone right to Miami 

This game is a clown show.  And the Bills are hip to the Archane scheme, he ain't running the rock between the C's.  So they're just going to park on the edges and run him down.

4 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

Come on meow. 

Down 31-0, Bell scored a couple garbage-time touchdowns, finally showing something in Game 34 of his NFL career. 

Feel free to bring this up come next September when he's one of our top 3 WRs and contributing in games that matter. I honestly hope you can throw this post in my face, because I have some serious doubts about his future with this team. 

You're not a belligerent douchebag, I wouldn't do that sort of thing.

Bell acquitted himself nicely today.  

DraftKings have Browns listed -1.5 and the game for Saturday @ 4:30pm.

Need to start the CLE v HOU Wildcard thread...

14 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

So it's official - Browns vs Texans next weekend in the Wild Card round?

Going to be up to the pass rush and DBs to get it done. 

3 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

3-0 at half.

Real barn-burner. 

DJ Chark fumbled going in at the 1 for a touchback. Otherwise it'd be 7-3 panthers. 

I know, I know.  A REAL hoot nanny there. 

Ooooook then.  Time to switch over to watch Baker vs Carolina.

 Giving Bell a pass/fail grade without any type of consistency from the QB spot is a rough go of things. 

 Especially when he should be occupying that Z or off-ball receiver spot.  He doesn't quite have the suddenness and strength to his game that would allow him to play a more "classic" X role like Tillman.  And this front office clearly felt Moore was a priority by trading for him and immediately inserting him in the lineup.  Not that I blame them for doing as much, but Moore gets snaps where Bell would be getting them.  And, as I've said most of the season, using Moore on the outside, especially in the manner they have with him being tagged and/or converting those outside routes vertical, is just a misuse of his proper abilities. 

 Bell is a smooth strider who needs space to get going, but when he has it he can read and leverage himself well.  At least, that was his forte at Purdue.  He always reminded me a good bit of Jabar Gaffney. That's the type of receiver, especially giving the salary crunch issues, you want on your team because of his quiet effectiveness. 

 Moving on from him so early, especially with Moore's future in question because of his last concussion, is premature. 

I really don't want to see this Texans team in the playoffs.  When they're healthy, most especially Stroud, they're pretty nasty.  

They're going to be a force in a very interesting AFC South for the next 10 years if they keep this up.

 Guys, guys, there's no need to pile it all on that fat nerd Ghoolie.  It's rude and unbecoming....

 ... Make sure to spread it around to Nickers who said he wanted Myles gone because he was a cancer. 

To answer my own question - Browns have the 3rd most fumbles per game. DC has two lost on 67 carries.  Or 1 per 33.5 which would put him towards the league bottom. 

For comparison, Joe Mixon has almost 4 times the carries and zero fumbles. 

Yeah.... Hard pass.  We have enough RBs that struggle holding onto the rock as is. 

 Any late push should be Oline first.  That having been said, Dalvin would be as close to plug n play as you'd get.  He would have a great knowledge of the offensive structure, language, pass pro sets, etc etc.    The downside would be building chemistry as a runner behind an Oline unfamiliar to him. 

 Anyone know what his fumble rate is? 

5 minutes ago, Orion said:

...but it's not just me sayin' that.  The sidelines announcer said it during the game (Deron Cherry?).  And I read it in someone's article a couple of weeks ago.  

 Oh shit, an article? Well fuck me...  my bad.

 Look man, you know as well as I do, most of what you read from the wanna-be sports media writing groups, Dawgs By Nature, Dawg Pound Daily, etc etc.... are watered down nonsense that lacks attention to detail.  And sideline announcers are basically cramming homework during the week that way they at least have some understanding as to the games and personnel they have to announce for.    Which means you're going to get cosmetic and, if you're lucky, maybe some depth to the commentary.  Otherwise they just watch ESPN and take a couple notes.

 Would any of these sources say Larry Fitzgerald was "bad route runner"?  HELL No...  so why would we say the same of a WR who plays a similar position and style?   Corey Coleman was a bad route runner.  Antonio Callaway was a bad route runner.  Anthony Schwartz was a non-existent level route runner.

 That ain't Ceddy.   Just because we don't see significant separation like you would have with "smaller" receivers, doesn't mean he ain't getting it done.  

 Something I want a contingent of Browns fans to keep in mind, before they think that Joe Flacco is a long(er) term answer for this team and that there is a QB controversy brewing in CLE.    Because the clickbait, cookie cutter podcast,  deadline having CLE sports media WILL be on that in the off-season, if they already aren't.

 Tua is in the MVP conversation.

Brock Purdy *was* in the MVP conversation.  Though most can agree he's a pretty damn solid signal caller and promising young player. 

 Both, including Purdy at home, got their asses absolutely handed to them by the Ravens defense with healthy teams around them.    Desean Watson, playing through a shoulder tear and a high ankle sprain, no Nick Chubb, and 40% of his starting Oline, lit up the Ravens IN THEIR HOUSE.  A win that should be looked at as the turning point for the season and the platform the Browns launched from for this post-season push.   

  We had a QB that was maligned, really starting to find his game within this offense, before injury took that away from him.

 Something, as 2023 fades out and 2024 is welcomed in, that needs to be kept in mind.  

19 hours ago, Orion said:

Tillman not being a good route runner and thus only getting 1 or 2 catches a game...we're weak at WR.  

I think you need to keep a few things in proper perspective. 

- Tillman is a mid round rookie on a team that has gone through 4 QB's now.

- He only started getting meaningful targets the last 6-8 games, depending on how you view meaningful.

- He has been playing a more classic 'X' receiver roll, not all that unlike DK Metcalf.   However, unlike Metcalf, he isn't some physical freak of nature.   But his style of game, contested catches in tight spaces and creating separation off physicality and contact, is in that same mold.   You basically play your game away from him until you draw those 1 on 1's, force the issue, and make a defense double him.   

- To further that point, DK averages just under 5 catches per game is entire career and a notch over 1k per year. 

- We simply lack the consistent QB play to have made him a more effective player his first season. But also having a coaching staff who has slowly grown to the adjustment of better using his skill set, being that we've had a handful of receivers the last season who vary pretty significantly from Ceddy.   Maybe save for DPJ, who was shipped off in favor of him.  

 When you take into account he's a 4.6 runner who is a taller 6'3 type with longer strides and a much higher center of gravity which increases the need for hip sink and shoulder control,  saying that Tillman "isn't a good route technician" just comes across as sloppy bubs.   

edit: To bullet point this.  I don't think the raw talent of the WR room is the problem.  It's health, experience and getting our QB situation settled.