35 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

One week, party people!

this dumb ass chose to work thru Monday & Tuesday, before jumping on Detroit flight Wednesday

late to work again.. suspend me please 

in short.. any player deciding on retiring.. tells his agent what team he'd like to retire from.. signs one day deal.. Player's chose to Retire as Cleveland Browns..

Congrats to both ! 

A home grown WR, w/5th browns team meeting, might fall under using a 7th round pick.

Tipton was invited to participate at Toledo University's Pro Day, where he raised the eyebrows of dozens of scouts. Tipton was able to participate in front of nearly 60 NFL scouts thanks to Toledo cornerback and projected first-round pick Quinyon Mitchell, who drew an enormous crowd to get one final look at him before the draft.

Yale wide receiver Mason Tipton had some interest from a handful of NFL teams throughout the pre-draft process. However, following his 4.32 40-yard dash time at his Pro Day, Tipton seemingly forced about 20 more teams to take a look. Tipton is no stranger to the spotlight. He grew up in Akron, Ohio, where he attended Archbishop Hoban High School.

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/longformarticle/cleveland-browns-nfl-draft-mason-tipton-230531025/#2407945

3 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

because after you shot down my Junior Colson love like some random girl at a Kent bar 20 years ago

   golden flashes.. three HS friends had my 25th birthday party at Ray's Place while attending Kent. nice small college town back 35 years ago. Got back to Toledo 2 days later 🙃. I'd image Ray's never closed a single day during Covid : ) 

2 hours ago, tiamat63 said:

There's several cutups of him on YT, the first one against UConn.  I'll start there.  

These days... YT is all we get for free.. Junkies miss the draft site that had draftees full snaps of games. Sites name escapes me from a few years back ?

I've seen PW play live in 3 games.. UNC/ Clemson/ ND.. The comparisons to LB Blake Martinez coming out of Stanford, may not be to far off ? But, the pro's got to get Wilson to add some good upper bulk. 138 tackles/ at times adding his knee brace to finish games? Loves the game & guts ! 

LB class may have it's weakness? But, 

Colson & Wilson are not that far behind, what Jack Campbell did in his college days verse pass/run percentages at Iowa  https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/stats/CD/LB/1/2024

RANK	PLAYER	POS	TEAM	TACKLING	PASS RUSH	RUN DEFENSE	COVERAGE	RATING
1	Jack Campbell	LB		90	69	85	92	87.6

Payton Wilson

LB

91

75

83

88

85.8

Junior Colson

LB

96

68

84

83

86.2

returning to slick Flug's 54th pick choices 😆

1.) Being AB's choice..

It'd take a 22 y.o 4.3 speed WR to fall on pick #54? Still feels like Berry trades back. Berry's guardrails would put the younger LB Junior Colson ahead of my choice of local LB Payton Wilson. My believe is Colson won't get to #54 but, Payton Wilson may with injury testing/draft age..

Give me.. LB Payton Wilson at pick #54.. @Flugel Morning Pancake special (cameraman sucks) .. My spelling test, calls him A-meg ! Stinging Bee-hive T, is raw enough to be the Browns/my 85th pick..

Meet playing angry, till whistle Jed Wills

12 hours ago, Orion said:

Round 6 (No. 206 overall)
Round 7 (No. 227 overall)
Round 7 (No. 243 overall)

Returning from Hawaii vacation... Man, It was a Sweet trip !

tried to trade up in the 6th.. but no team wanted UDFA 7th round picks

66.

Payton Wilson   LB NC State

85.

Ja'Tavion Sanders   TE Texas

90.

Roman Wilson   WR Michigan

156.

Justin Eboigbe   DT Alabama

227.

Carson Steele   RB UCLA

243.

Ryan Watts   S Texas

 

Yep ! Mock sims are still un-settled with 11 days until Draft day ! Trading back from pick 54, to gain 66 & pick #90 sounds like a Berry thing. 

Good to be back. Time to catch up on the world that went away ! 

11 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

Post three guys you'd like who would probably be available. 

14 hours ago, Kvoethe said:

I support smart decisions...I like the Juedy signing...great potential upside.  They could have held off on the 41mil guaranteed...at least till he suits up for a few games....am I wrong??

Breaking Down The Jerry Jeudy Contract

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/longformarticle/breaking-down-the-jerry-jeudy-cleveland-browns-extension-contract-229266123/#2393737

11 hours ago, Flugel said:

 The variance of ratings and projections make this a little challenging but it's fun getting more familiar with what they've done and what they can offer teams in the draft.

can't remember a year where Walter's, ESPN, Pff & the mock draft database, have draftees round/prospect projections differing this much, a month from the draft.  Good point sir.. Some of Kiper's bpa on board, could get passed on by a full round       

16 hours ago, Flugel said:

LB. Jaylan Ford, Texas 6-2 235 - Made 119 Tackles with 10 TFL as a junior and 101 Tackles with 10.5 TFL as a senior. Projected as a 3 down LBer at the next level with 6 INTs and 4 PBU over the last 2 years.

Ford's tape matches his numbers. Interested to see if GM's group Ford with bucks Tommy E or UNC Cedric Grey's round projections of 4th round. Good find Flug's !  

$237 bucks round trip w/bags & we're headed back home to dual birthday party in Detroit.

It only takes one to get to us !

Round 2.. #54

IOL-Cooper Beebe or Christian Hayes..

Bama DE/LB-Chris Braswell or S Tyler Nubin..

DT Kris Jenkins or Michael Hall jr..(pro day, Buck won't get to #85)

ILB Payton Wilson or Junior Colson

Round 3..  #85

RB Jaylen Wright or Braelon Allen

TE Cade Stover or Theo Johnson

T K.Amegadjie or Dominick Puni

DT Maason Smith or Leonard Taylor

2 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

@Flugel @gumby73 (And anyone else who wants to participate, of course)

Want to do a top 5 list for our 3rd round pick, like we we did for the 2nd rounder?

I'll start.

Thanks Dutch & sure

I'll need a day or 2 to update both rounds found here on page 3.. My sister from Toledo called, to make 3 X 45 minute drives to Detroit to get to each day of the draft. Flights to Detroit, the day prior to draft are cheap at 100 bucks from NC.. I'm having ticket price drama getting back to NC for this thing called a job .. Sister Barb, needs a answer today...

  Shall we pack a gun to a Detroit NFL Draft ? Free lodging, just need the car rides to/from draft

While We're talk'in Kickers ? 🎱 

Now might be a good time to inform Mary Kay & others? Browns are already paying a backup kicker on this roster. Adding York? are we bringing 3 Kickers to Camp? 

Good Night of Carolina College Basketball !  🏀 what'd I miss?

Like 7-11... WR's are always open. What fans hate when they get open? Is WR drop rates..

It's @TexasAg1969 Birthday week.. HB pal ! Would you believe we both logged in here 10 years ago !

Texas A&M WR Ainias Smith has a pair of great catching hands.. 1.9% drop rate 

Drop rates for some top WRs in the 2024 #NFLDraft:

• Johnny Wilson: 16.1%  

• Javon Baker: 10.6%

• Devontez Walker: 8.5%

• Troy Franklin: 7.3%

• Keon Coleman: 7.2%

• Marvin Harrison Jr: 6.9%

• Ladd McConkey: 6.3%

• Xavier Worthy: 5.4%

• Malik Nabers: 4.9%

• Xavier Legette: 4.8%

• Rome Odunze: 4.8%

• Ja’Lynn Polk: 4.8%

• Brian Thomas Jr: 3.8%

   Ainias Smith:   1.9%

• Adonai Mitchell: 1.7%

coded as DR. more WR draftee details here https://steelersdepot.com/2024/03/2024-nfl-draft-wr-prospects-pff-grades-big-board-ranks/  bonus stats on contested catches

Browns drop rates last season..

7 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Are you sure about that Tom?  🤣 

https://walterfootball.com/draft2024ILB.php

This Wild-cat (Zombo's edit to wilddawg still lives ) stuck out to me during the Combine. Looked built like a old school ILB.. falls thru cracks in many iLB rankings..

The only site that has Wallace ranked inside it's top 100 is ESPN #87.. 

https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/trevin-wallace-scouting-report-exploring-kentucky-lb-s-strengths-weaknesses

NC State Payton Wilson may not fit AB's age (24) draft profile? But, Wilson looks to be the best sure tackler that can cover from this weak class  

All the players that are pending free agents, after the 2024 season have been removed from this chart. This gives us a indication of position rooms where they have the most need to draft someone and prepare for the future.

The best teams in the NFL will draft a year in advance so they aren't relying on a rookie to be a role player, give them a year in the system to develop.

1.) Add Jerry Jeudy to WR's

2.) All other players have expiring contracts or on 1 year expiring contracts after 2024. Except listed

3.) Key contracts would fall on Chubb/ Cooper/ Newsome/ Wills & JOK

 Browns could Draft BPA in many positions 

4 hours ago, Neo said:

Speaking of Nick Chubb, does anyone know how he's coming along with his recovery? There hasn't been very much said about him.

won't be much...NFLPA hammers HIPAA privacy rules on players.. Nick Chubb himself/agent, shouldn't release his medical info

Sadly, Most roster projections have Nick listed as going on reserve/PUP list to start the 2024 season. If so, Player must miss first 4 games of season at minimum.

Nick's injury report has been confirmed by everyone but Nick Chubb's medical staff. have read Multiple Reads like...

Chubb underwent surgery on Sept. 29 to repair his medial collaterial ligament, meniscus and medial capsule, the team confirmed Sept. 30 in a statement. Chubb also had a second surgery on Nov. 14th to repair his anterior cruciate ligament, the Browns said.

(MCL & ACL) and some still think full dislocation of left knee? (NFL/media former team Dr. Chao of Chargers)

No timeline, but Browns "on track" has been determined for his return. The Browns said early estimated recovery times suggest Chubb will be able to play "at some point" next season. (wonder where our bye week falls?)

🦇  💪   Good luck, 2-4 !

edit-- today's Dawand Jones injury update https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/longformarticle/cleveland-browns-dawand-jones-229034010/#2390776

10 hours ago, tiamat63 said:

 

 Now THIS is an underrated signing I also like, tossed in with bringing in a better body suited to playing more upback.  Liked Foreman at Texas, dude doesn't have much mileage, he's a bigger RB and he had almost 1k behind a very questionable Carolina Oline a couple years ago.   I could see him as the #2 before training camp is over.

Kinda stung posting the Foreman to sign. Toledo grad, w/Hunt signed Toledo jersey. Proud of what Hunt proved w/his time here as a Brown. Played for 4M last season. Interest to what Foreman signs for here.

The wife is the household Panthers fan. Hated the McCaffery trade. But Yes, D.Foreman almost got 1k after that trade as a Panther.  That Carolina OL, couldn't pass block my wife , but better in run blocking inside tackles. 

Small world of NFL drafting..

In the 2017 NFL draft. K.Hunt went 3.86. The next RB off the board, came 3 picks later. Texas RB D'Onte Foreman 3.89. Hunt's truck load played just under 220lbs. (say's 216) .. Foreman does seem to be the more durable healthy RB playing at 235lbs. 

Getting a durable D. Foreman this late in the FA pool?  Feels like a solid pickup for Andrew Berry/Browns       

FA Panthers/Bears RB D'Onte Foreman to sign with Browns

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/20/nfl-free-agency-donta-foreman-duce-staley-panthers-browns/

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2024/3/20/24106993/nfl-free-agency-browns-donta-foreman-nick-chubb

Rumored Team prospect meetings can't be copy & pasted from this link. But can be viewed here

 https://nfltraderumors.co/2024-nfl-draft-prospect-visit-tracker/

In progress Pro Day results can be viewed here (load delays)

 https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2024-nfl-pro-day-results/

8 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

this isn't that complicated.

The Browns front office isn't bringing in a backup that is going to automatically be more popular than Watson. No one really cares about Winston, or will be dying to see him play.

But Flacco? We saw how popular that run was with Browns fans and him. 

Winston was brought in because Watson likes him AND he's not much of a threat of the fan base clamoring for him.

Good post Dutch^^and this is just a piece of the 2024 season drama we'll be facing/posting

The main media, 2 fold opinion flying monkeys began flying soon as Flacco wasn't re-signed.

Example a) Charlie Weis, NFL Radio

"If I was a Browns fan. It's not my money spent on a ridiculous paid QB contract. Why should their fans care about Watson's hurt performance feelings? To date, Watson's biggest win was one road win in Baltimore under his belt. 3 years into a 5 year promised contract. Fans/the 53/staff should only care about win's & if Wacko 4 Flacco or _________ hurts Watson's butt hurt performance feelings? Than, So be it.. We all have to Compete for our jobs. and I Charlie Weis still get boo'ed doing this radio show"  🙋‍♂️(guilty)

Charlie Weis won't be the only media a_ _hole to take this side of the (de)fence ..

Kindly, Don't shoot back at this messenger .. It's not my money to choose players/pay. I'm just a lifetime fan of the  Cleveland Browns posting opinions that's out there.

Happy Monday !

1 hour ago, Flugel said:

Just out of curiosity, what do they know about Winston that the rest of the planet doesn't already know about him?

and we don't know what this FO should know..

a) Winston might have arranged arriving this weekend to sign his deal on Monday? He' got a agent for info

b.) Ya won't get a disagreement from this poster, or several teams for that matter. Many GM's missed the trade value steal for Justin Fields to come in as a backup QB ..  Makes matters worse.. It was Fucking Pittsburgh  🤷‍♂️  

On 3/16/2024 at 2:51 AM, Vagitron said:

because if he’s not willing to grind for the job I don’t want him anyway. 

whats up vag's. 

What's your projected team draft needs this upcoming draft?

We watched Baltimore landing studs that fell into their laps last season. Your team picks, come just before the Browns get on the clock.  and Don't take our guy ! 

Joyous topic.. so back to the title

Jameis has not signed a Browns contract as of Sunday..

With Watson’s shoulder rehab only starting any kind of throwing soon and offseason activities starting in Berea in April, adding another quarterback makes sense. With Winston not signing yet, Cleveland only has Dorian Thompson-Robinson and Huntley at the quarterback position.

Tyler Huntley is only signing a veteran’s minimum contract meaning he is competing for a roster spot at best and is a training camp arm at worst:

So how long should AB have Cabot wait for busy Jameis Winston?

When ya hear former gm's, praising the depth of this years class of Offensive Lineman? Our pal Tour, would've needed it's own Topic of 2024 OL prospects. 🙏

Prospect X is a term used in finding prospects that fall under the terms of "deepest draft sleeper" (think Drew Forbes, or maybe we shouldn't 😇)

Pro Bowl LG Joel Bitonio was found playing his College football in Nevada. 

This years Prospect X, maybe playing his College football as a South Dakota State Jackrabbit  🐰

.Projected 5th/6th round. Prospect rating as high as #125, but now at #134. X's PFF score is 87.6 with a RAS score of 9.97

Shrine Bowler maybe built out of the same play-doe mold of Joel Bitonio playing at Nevada  ( Oh calm down ! ) Sit a year behind a pro bowler.   

Here's to finding more game tape of Jack 🐰   LG #60 Mason McCormick

It's not the Steelers, but 13-2 Montana played in it's Championship Game

It's a option after pick #85