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12 minutes ago, tiamat63 said:
- Dline is improved
- Secondary is improved
- Offense played pretty damn flawless save for the 2 turnovers late.
- Baker moved well in the pocket, delivered decisively and accurately
Stef knows these teams will be meeting in the post season. No lateral action, no sweeps to Schwartz, didn't really see much pin and pull, trap or draws.
Defensively not moving Myles, not many dime looks, backing out of those double A gap looks are the most obvious.
Offensive gameplan emphasized efficiency and control before explosion.
Defensive game plan wasn't much different then in the playoffs - bracket tyreek, no deep balls, make them dink and dunk to play patient.
This is a talented team that will go far. We'll have another shot against them.
secondary has improve.....ty hill had 200 yds alone today....what?????????????????
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4 minutes ago, tiamat63 said:
- Dline is improved
- Secondary is improved
- Offense played pretty damn flawless save for the 2 turnovers late.
- Baker moved well in the pocket, delivered decisively and accurately
Stef knows these teams will be meeting in the post season. No lateral action, no sweeps to Schwartz, didn't really see much pin and pull, trap or draws.
Defensively not moving Myles, not many dime looks, backing out of those double A gap looks are the most obvious.
Offensive gameplan emphasized efficiency and control before explosion.
Defensive game plan wasn't much different then in the playoffs - bracket tyreek, no deep balls, make them dink and dunk to play patient.
This is a talented team that will go far. We'll have another shot against them.
maybe we get another shot at them, but we can't play bend and break d against a qb and wr's like they have...this ain't the 60's.....qb's are alot faster and quicker and the wideouts are so much faster and quicker....ala tyree hill etc etc....good luck with bend and break.....we will never see a sb with that style...
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8 minutes ago, jiggins7919 said:
This game unfolded almost exactly like I thought it would, and how many of us thought it would. It was a SEASON OPENER. We do NOT win season openers for crying out loud. The most we could hope for was to come out healthy, but that didn't happen either. Losing Wills is absolutely crushing, and regardless of how serious his injury is, he's certainly missing time. Not good.
Harrison's ejection was worse than it appeared. We actually got a penalty against the Chiefs, and if Harrison could've reacted like a normal person, the Chiefs would've been behind the sticks. I hope he gets fined and suspended. It's what he deserves.
I don't think I've ever...I mean EVER seen an NFL punter drop a perfect snap. Maybe one other time...I can't remember. But suffice to say our idiot punter sealed the deal.
Chubb...I don't know what to say. He killed us today. I just got finished texting my friend that whoever turned it over first would likely lose. Blame me because 3 seconds later Chubb coughed it up. Chubb is my favorite player and it tore me apart to see that.
OBJ...his loss absolutely destroyed us. Think back to the Cowboys last year. We needed a play and OBJ basically saved our asses single handedly. We needed something special in the second half and nobody was home.
Clowney was good and uber fast but made a horrific blunder. He had Mahomes dead to rights in the red zone but didn't slow down and ran right by him. If he breaks down and forces Mahomes backwards, it's an incomplete pass at best.
I'm not in the mood for positive things yet. There were a bunch of those, too, but I largely saw a team choke that's nowhere near ready for the big leagues. Cincy won, Pittsburgh won (duh), and Baltimore will win. Starting off on the wrong foot, but it's a long season. Bring on the Texans, who are somehow 1-0 and possibly favored to beat us.
I'm extremely frustrated by our second half performance, but again, it's a long season and we'll rally. I'll talk about the good stuff later when I'm more even-keeled. Haha. Much love brothers.
i agree with most of what you say....first of all....the chubb fumble turned the game in favor of kc....everything went downhill from there.......i don't know about the midset of not winning the first game..yes we do lose them but that has to chg...especially when you are playing a sb champion team...and you have them beat and let them off the hook...and our punter...eeeeeek....i am not very confident in any of our kickers and that is concerining....obj...to me, has not done anything with the browns...the dallas game last yr...they had one of the worse d in the history of the nfl last yr....my high school team could have scored against that d...so that's not saying much becasue since he has been with the browns he really has not lived up to expectations.....either its because he is not available to play or he is seen bitching about something on the sidelines....it has not happened with baker and obj period....i liked what we did against the run today...big improvement there...i don't think woods is going to be around much longer....wish we would get a top notch d coordinator...we need one....but as you say....long season...lets see what happens....
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1 minute ago, mjp28 said:
I don't know off hand, how many games did they win last year ?
You could start there and look it up,
he had 2 shots vs the chiefs....one last yr in the divisional game and then today and failed.....can't blame the loss on him though....our defense stinks....can't create a turnover worth a shit....the secondary sucks...there is no improvement there.....dline looked good against the run today.....the qb rush had big issues today.....seems like they mostly over ran the rush...mahommes just steps up in the pocket and has all the options in the world....i don't know about our d coordinator....seems like we should have had some contain on mahommes....there was none at all....seems like all our dline just took bad angles or over ran the play.....and our special team play....yikes...
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On 4/22/2021 at 11:39 AM, The Gipper said:
Here is a survey for this week. Give your answers or opinions:
1. Do you see the Browns making any kind of trade of their top draft pick. If so, what would be the nature of the trade?
2. It has been revealed that Justin Field has been diagnosed with Epilepsy. How do you feel this should affect his draft status?
3. Former Browns Safety TJ Ward has officially retired. What do you think about that?
4. Adrian Peterson is still out looking for an NFL gig. Should a team sign him, or should he just retire?
5. In one publication, Johnny Manziel was named the worst draft pick in Browns history. Agree? Disagree? Or who would you give that label too?
6. In Europe, about a dozen of the top money European soccer teams are trying to form a "Super League", where they just play each other, and make their own TV deals, and, of course, try to keep ALL the money. Could you see something like that being attempted by any of the teams in the major North American Sports Leagues? Where say all the "Big market" teams, join together and say "we don't need all these small market teams, let's just us 10-12 teams form a league and play each other and keep all the piles of cash"?
5......lots of bad draft picks...i agree with all of them that was stated....i have to say, the worse trade in pro sports, in my opinion, at least as far as the browns, was mike oliphant for byner....one of the worse trades ever in pro sports...well, maybe not as bad when the cubs traded lou brock to saint louie for for for...well i don't even know who for....but it could not have been good because the cubs were still shitty during that era....
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On 2/6/2021 at 3:13 PM, Comeonman said:
Anyone else seeing this news of Richard Sherman possibilities? Didn’t see it posted anywhere. Apparently he may want to come play for Woods. He’s older, but damn we need secondary help.
noooooooooo......stay away from these future hall of famers that are way past their prime....we need young good player that can give us 5-7 yrs of good quality football...not this mcginnis....fujita....that number 24 we had from the eagles yrs ago who stunk to high heaven and did not do shit....we are not a team on defense that should be looking for someone to give us a yr of decent football and thats it....we are tooooooo far away from having a sb defense....we need everything......build it without delay....thats what good gm's do....
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On 1/23/2021 at 11:50 PM, The Gipper said:
If I recall, Jamal Lewis played pretty darn well for us in the time he was here. And McGinnis wasn't so bad either.
Lewis: 2 1000 yard seasons.
2007 28 CLE RB 31 15 15 298 1304 9 59 66 4.4 86.9 19.9 39 30 248 8.3 2 8 34 2.0 16.5 76.9% 6.4 328 4.7 1552 11 4 13 2008 29 CLE RB 31 16 16 279 1002 4 43 29 3.6 62.6 17.4 32 23 178 7.7 0 8 18 1.4 11.1 71.9% 5.6 302 3.9 1180 4 2 6 2009 30 CLE RB 31 9 8 143 500 0 18 18 3.5 55.6 15.9 11 8 88 11.0 0 5 19 0.9 9.8 72.7% 8.0 151 3.9 588 0 0 3 McGinest:
2006 35 CLE LOLB 55 14 13 1 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 4.0 45 36 9 8 10 6 2007 36 CLE LOLB 55 13 11 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 1 0 0 3.0 30 19 11 4 4 5 2008 37 CLE LOLB 55 14 14 0 0 0 0 2 1.0 57 44 13 5 9 On 1/23/2021 at 11:50 PM, The Gipper said:If I recall, Jamal Lewis played pretty darn well for us in the time he was here. And McGinnis wasn't so bad either.
Lewis: 2 1000 yard seasons.
2007 28 CLE RB 31 15 15 298 1304 9 59 66 4.4 86.9 19.9 39 30 248 8.3 2 8 34 2.0 16.5 76.9% 6.4 328 4.7 1552 11 4 13 2008 29 CLE RB 31 16 16 279 1002 4 43 29 3.6 62.6 17.4 32 23 178 7.7 0 8 18 1.4 11.1 71.9% 5.6 302 3.9 1180 4 2 6 2009 30 CLE RB 31 9 8 143 500 0 18 18 3.5 55.6 15.9 11 8 88 11.0 0 5 19 0.9 9.8 72.7% 8.0 151 3.9 588 0 0 3 McGinest:
2006 35 CLE LOLB 55 14 13 1 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 4.0 45 36 9 8 10 6 2007 36 CLE LOLB 55 13 11 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 1 0 0 3.0 30 19 11 4 4 5 2008 37 CLE LOLB 55 14 14 0 0 0 0 2 1.0 57 44 13 5 9 both those guys were not anywhere near what they used to be before coming to cleveland.....thats why their former teams got rid of them... neither of them were long term prospects.....anymore...
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22 hours ago, The Gipper said:
Marty is one of only 7 coaches in Pro football history to have 200 or more wins. IMO.....he would have been a lock for HOF if only he had gotten to a Super Bowl or two:
Rank Coach Wins 1 ^ Don Shula 328 2 ^ George Halas 318 3 * Bill Belichick 280 4 ^ Tom Landry 250 5 ^ Curly Lambeau 226 6 * Andy Reid 221 7 Marty Schottenheimer 200 Let's put it this way: Jimmy Johnson only won 80 games as an NFL coach. And Marty had a much better overall win pct than Johnson: .596 vs. .567. Yet JJ is in the HOF and Marty isn't...just because he has those 2 Super Bowl wins.
By the way....the HC with THE best win pct. who is not in HOF: Blanton Collier .672 win pct. which is 7th all time. And he had 79 career wins, just one less than JJ, plus he did win a championship.
there is no doubt he would have with a sb appearance......who knows....maybe with some luck, he gets in anyway.....long shot but who knows...
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21 hours ago, Bob806 said:
Sad news. I lost my Dad the day after Christmas, 2019 due to complications from Alzheimer's.
Marty definitely made his mark here, just couldn't beat Elway. Those Browns teams were fun to watch, and real disciplined.
that was a great era with marty and bernie.....and the rest of the browns....
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20 hours ago, mjp28 said:
Great moments.
man o man.....were they ever...
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Just now, TexasAg1969 said:
Lost my Mom to it 10 years ago next month. Went from a spry still hiking Rocky Mountain trials woman in her early 80's to death at 87 with no ability to remember anything she was told within 5 minutes of the conversation. It's a killer, not just a memory taker.
hopefully they find a cure in the future....big pharma is at least making some progress on it.....knew some folks that died from it also.....terrible disease....
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22 hours ago, The Gipper said:
Things may be bad for Marty Schottenheimer. He has been placed in hospice care. That usually means you are on your way out. Alzheimer's:
Former NFL head coach Marty Schottenheimer, who was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s in 2014, was moved to a hospice facility near his home in Charlotte, North Carolina, his family announced in a statement.
Schottenheimer is in stable condition following complications with his disease.
“As a family we are surrounding him with love,” Schottenheimer’s wife, Pat, said in a statement, “and are soaking up the prayers and support from all those he impacted through his incredible life. In the way he taught us all, we are putting one foot in front of the other . . . one play at a time.”
The Schottenheimer family requested privacy.
Schottenheiemer, 77, last coached in the NFL in 2006 with the Chargers.
He spent 21 years as a head coach, coaching the Browns, Chiefs, Washington and the Chargers. Schottenheimer went 200-126-1 in the regular season 5-13 in the postseason.
no doubt.....once in a hospice, its just a matter of time.....sad news.....always liked marty......
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On 1/21/2021 at 3:54 PM, tiamat63 said:
Personnel wise... Damn, JJ would be a great addition in replacing OV while we keep our edge depth roll players.
Would allow this draft and next to turn over late round rocks in hoping we find cheap(er) youth.
fuck no.....way over his prime....this would be another blockheaded move like the willie mcginnis....scott fujita....jamal lewis moves.......like one of the posters said, we would be paying for his past performance....he's cooked....too many injuries..
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On 1/21/2021 at 1:17 PM, nickers said:
yes sir.....very well deserved....
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On 1/18/2021 at 12:38 AM, nickers said:
I have a strong feeling OBJ won't be here next season..... He's a non factor on this team... And.. Never will be...
i'd like tosee him traded for some high draft picks.....so we can build a defense.....
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On 1/17/2021 at 11:13 PM, Ibleedbrown said:
The throw too. Talk about game of inches. He had to fully extend to have a chance with his DB jacket on. I think the ball grazed the defender’s hand or came really really close.
Some props to Njoku too who seemed to play the part of TE 1 today.
he had some nice catches and he actually made some nice blocks.....
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On 1/18/2021 at 12:47 PM, SdBacker80 said:
I have to say i have never in my life seen the middle of the field open like we’ve had all year and just 4 guys after the passer.
anyone with me here?
we can't continue to play this kind of d and expect a sb appearance....yeah, i agree with you.....even the so called good teams we beat, we had hugh leads and let them right back in the game....tennessee.....what was it...38-3 and the game came down to an on side kick.....i don't know if it was because of the injuries to delpit and williams or if joe just sucks big time as dc....either way whether its personnel or the dc....something has to change...
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2 hours ago, BrownsfaninPa said:
i'm very happy the Browns had a winning season, long over due. And the Chiefs game was looking to be a blowout until P. Mahomes was declared out for the game. Then we got robbed on the No Helmet to helmet contact hit at the one yard line that caused a fumble that resulted a touchback and gave the ball back to the Chiefs at the 20. TOTALLY got cheated. We could have taken the lead with a possible TD and may have won the game.
defense lost the game.....the helmet to helmet should have been called but i don't, in my opinion was the reason we lost.....we were given a gift from the good lord above and we could not capitalize on it.....the d let a backup qb scramble for 13 and a half yds......setting up the game winning pass completion....i believe if we held them there baker would have won the game.....the 13 yd scramble was the reason we lost.....
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14 minutes ago, SdBacker80 said:
I have to say i have never in my life seen the middle of the field open like we’ve had all year and just 4 guys after the passer.
anyone with me here?
our dc sucks......
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17 hours ago, nickers said:
You're right... Kevin Stefanski and Joe Woods did...
yeah steph made some bad decisions with time mgmt....but i like him...he will learn from this....he's not like every other coach we have had....which were all losers...he went up against andy reid....who is a hall of fame coach......now woods on the other hand.....eeeeeeyuk.....that all i have to say....
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15 hours ago, Kvoethe said:
Who is blaming him? I liked the effort. Our defense lost the game.
you are right.......no one is afraid of our d....overall, they stink....
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17 hours ago, BobPOUND! said:
I am going on the Higgins bandwagon. I will 100% support his effort to make that TD. Not 1 in a 100 times would that result in a touchback...
Rashard. You keep your head up!!! Browns Nation loves you and your effort to make that TD..... There were at least a dozens points that we could have won that game and your mistake was just one of them. Baker's INT was inexcusable. The fact that our Defense couldn't make Hennie miss on a 3rd and long...
Keep your head up and I for one hope you our are 3rd receiver next year behind Landry and OBJ..... Great season.. See you all at the Draft!!!!!!
BobPound!
17 hours ago, BobPOUND! said:I am going on the Higgins bandwagon. I will 100% support his effort to make that TD. Not 1 in a 100 times would that result in a touchback...
Rashard. You keep your head up!!! Browns Nation loves you and your effort to make that TD..... There were at least a dozens points that we could have won that game and your mistake was just one of them. Baker's INT was inexcusable. The fact that our Defense couldn't make Hennie miss on a 3rd and long...
Keep your head up and I for one hope you our are 3rd receiver next year behind Landry and OBJ..... Great season.. See you all at the Draft!!!!!!
BobPound!
i don't think he did either...however. and i know its tough to do because its a split second decision .....we have kareem hunt who is a beast inside the 5yd line....why take the chance on a fumble, which by the way...happened......i don't know....i don't like any reciever trying to stretch for the pylon....first thing i think of is a fumble.....i don't know what our reciever coach teaches these wide outs to do in that situation....its a tough call.....
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Just now, browns52 said:
i give alot of credit to the chefs d.....honey badger was hugh....he was mostly responsible for stuffing the run.....defense wins games, not offense....they made the plays on d and we did not...
just saying, beckham was a weapon when he was with the giants......overall, he has not done much with the browns.....
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2 hours ago, Neo said:
I just want to put things into perspective, with the game close they lost probably the best player in all of football and left the door wide open for the Browns. They didn't get it done.
This is just the start of things to come. I think it is abundantly clear the impact of not having a weapon like Beckham had the bad luck of losing Wills, but I think if we had another threat on offense it would have been easier to run the ball.
i give alot of credit to the chefs d.....honey badger was hugh....he was mostly responsible for stuffing the run.....defense wins games, not offense....they made the plays on d and we did not...
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can't beleive wilson is still on the team.....i liked him coming out of bama....thought he would be really good....but, man, you don't even hear his name mentioned during the game at all.....and he is out there on the field....i see number 51 alot.....don't get it....maybe it is joe woods d schemes or something.....