Dutch Oven

The city doesn't own the Browns, the Haslams do, It's their private business, let them buy the land and pay for a stadium.

It definitely can be an advantage. I think its been shown over the years that it hasn't been for the Browns, though.

This is an excellent choice, I could definitely see this happening.

DT Maason Smith, LSU. LB Junior Colson, scUM

Ok, I've never done this... How do you do the thing you do regarding discord?

Hypothetically @ballpeen, lets say a spot in downtown could be found to build a dome... Would you prefer it to stay somewhere downtown, or would you want it out in Brookpark?

It was tough watching Bieber walk onto the field before the game. You could see him get choked up.

I'm sure the majority of people who come to Browns games are from outside the city, there's less than 400,000 people in Cleveland proper, but over 2+ mill in the metro area. I really, REALLY think the Haslams want a dome in Brookpark, so are they just trying to see if the city blows their doors off with a ton of money to stay on the lakefront? This should be a very interesting year, I'm sure by this time next year we will have a good idea where the Browns will be playing in the future.

Thoughts on LB Payton Wilson, NC State with the 2nd round pick? Is that a legit spot for him? He has some red flags, specifically his injury history, but man he's got some tools galore.

That was pretty surreal.

I was at the last home opener at Cleveland Stadium, 1993. I believe it was a sell-out (or close to it) and it was two weeks after the boat crash that took Steve Olin and Tim Crews' life. Their wives were brought out to the mound before the game, it was a sad scene.

That and a strike zone for the Braves pitchers (specifically Glavine in Game 6) that was roughly the size of Rhode Island.

The 90s teams had good pitching staffs overall, but lacked a definitive #1 starter. They had a chance at getting Pedro Martinez, but balked at the asking price. (I can't remember what was wanted for him) I have to think Pedro on the Tribe would have probably put them over the top. The great pitchers came after the 90s run, starting with Sabathia.

A city that used to be the sixth biggest in the U.S. that now has less than 400,000 residents has no where downtown they could build a football stadium? Come on meow. And yes, I didn't think Haslam would literally bus tables at a TGIFriday's next to the stadium or check people into a Motel 6.

The Indians/Guardians have had a lot of really good starting pitchers since the 90s, multiple Cy Young winners, etc... But they haven't thrown a no-hitter since Len Barker's perfect game in 1981. Strange, indeed.

Helluva way to start the season... Sucks about Bieber though, he was fantastic in his first two starts, pitching at his Cy Young level again. I just hope that starting rotation injuries don't torpedo the Gs season again.

Finally going to see The Black Keys, got tickets for the October 12th show at Rocket Mortage Fieldhouse.

My point is the Bears bought a ton of land outside of the city proper, like the Haslams did, only to decide that the grass wasn't greener outside of Chicago. The reason the Haslams want to get outside of downtown is that in Brookpark they could own EVERYTHING that makes money via the Browns GameDay experience. You want to park? Park at a Haslam-owned parking lot. Want to eat? Eat at a Haslam-owned restaurant, etc...

Kind of an interesting parallel is what is going on with the Bears... They bought a ton of acres in the suburbs (a former horse track?) and it looked like they were all set to move out of the city limits of Chicago, only to apparently scrap that idea and are now talking with Chicago about a new lakefront dome stadium.

Explains all your medical problems, huh?

I wouldn't be so sure about that. He will have missed a ton of games with injuries in '21 and '23, and now will miss virtually all of 2024. And according to Terry Pluto, he's probably going to have a 12-18 month rehab after surgery, which means he'll probably miss most to all of 2025. This was the chance he took when he declined to sign multiple contract extensions the Guardians offered him. For the Gs, thank dog he did.

Will have to have season-ending elbow surgery. He's a free agent after the season ends.

Honestly, I think that spot would work better for the Browns than the Cavs because you are only going 8 or 9 times a year. Then again, how was getting in/out of the Coliseum? There would be three times as many people going to Browns games.