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I watched this show the other night, only because it was highlighting the Browns. I thought it was done poorly, and didn't really cover as much as it should have. The one thing that struck me, was the interview with D'Qwell Jackson. I kind of liked him when he played here, but after this, he exposed himself as the loser that he really is. He stated.... not in these exact words, that he was proud to play in the NFL, but didn't really want anyone to know that he played for the Browns. Now, we've all had similar feelings at some point over the past 20+ seasons...even if we don't want to admit it. But...this is different. He's a professional football player....we're fans. I've struggled with the question many times..."How can we be sooo bad for sooo long?" It defies the law of averages. I know we've had bad coaches, bad owners and bad players, but you have to admit that there were some teams over those years that really should have done much better, with the talent they had. This D'Qwell Jackson thing answers that question....well, for me, anyway. Any player...whether rookie or veteran...coming to a new team, with that attitude has no chance to help turn the team around. The stigma that became tied to the Cleveland Browns, has determined the fate of the team since 1999. It probably wasn't that strong with the Tim Couch teams, because those teams showed some heart, but lacked talent. Once the losing set in, players like Jackson determined the fate of the team...at least subconsciously. I have to assume a lot of the players did not want to be here from their first day, and played like it. This explains away all the jinx theories, the curse theories, and the "NFL hates us" theories. We can all debate Baker Mayfield's talent and ability to turn this team around, but from what I've seen, I have to think he has not fallen into that mentality, and never will. Thank God for players like Mayfield and Jarvis Landry.

 

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Unbelieveable....I had many spirited discussions with Gipper. He was always the same....a regular on the old AOL board. He didn't pull punches and called it how he saw it. We didn't always agree on things, but he was fair. I will miss his humor....

 

 

 

On 3/4/2021 at 5:20 PM, The Gipper said:

I am going to use this to augment the Survey thread:

Have you ever seen what you believe to be a UFO? 

I have not, not that I recall. 

I've seen weird things in the sky, that seem to move deliberately, then change direction, abruptly. If there are no aliens, how did mankind advance so far in the last 100 years or so, compared to the thousands of years of existence? One word...Roswell.

4 hours ago, tiamat63 said:

Win and you go to the playoffs.

So...Yeah.  This is a pretty dumb sentiment.

Yeah...I realized it was a dumb sentence when you wrote it...

 If we win the game, no matter how close, we will hear..."Big deal....we beat the Squealers' back ups." If we lose....well, "Same old Browns..."

After watching the Dallas / Ratbirds game, I'm confident we will win on Monday night. The Ratbirds just beat the 32nd ranked defense, and looked like crap doing it. If we can't destroy them on Monday, we have no business even thinking playoffs. Jackson still can't throw the ball, so if we can keep them from running for 300 yards on us, they have no chance. 

8 minutes ago, The Cysko Kid said:

Look regardless of how anyone feels about baker the browns are not going to fire him in the midst of their best season in 25 years. Does he miss easy throws? Sometimes. Sometimes he also makes pretty brilliant throws. He's obviously not on par with a rodgers or a wilson but I think he's got grit and some other intangibles that we havent seen out of a browns quarterback in a long time. I don't think I'd be willing to trade him up with the likes of case keenum at this time. For me to feel good about ditching baker the replacement would have to demonstrate clear superiority. 

With that said bill belichick's tendency to draft a QB every year has sound reasoning to me. Even if you have a tom brady it's a move that keeps that guy on his toes. Makes him perform better.

Exactly....

I didn't like drafting Mayfield, but it's still early in his, career, so I'm not ready to cut him from the team, yet. He's better than any qb, since 1999, whether you haters want to admit that, or not.  It's fashionable, right now, to dislike Mayfield. I don't really give a crap what is fashionable. His qb rating for yesterday, was 116. That's not too bad. He missed some throws, yesterday...so did Tom Brady. He's not Mahomes, but I would keep him over every other qb that was drafted in 2018, except Josh Allen....that includes Lamar Jackson. There will always be some of you that hate him. I don't think he cares. I know that we are 8 and 3, and talking playoffs. He wasn't my first choice, but I sure am glad  we didn't pick Rosen or Trubiskey, like a lot of you wanted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Bob806 said:

I agree with most of that, except it's easy to look in the rear view mirror & say they should have sat him due to injury.

I think Keenum would have met the same fate. The pitt front 7 just killed the Browns O line.

 

No doubt.....starting Keenum would not have changed the outcome. Bottom line...it doesn't matter if it's Brady, Brees, Mahomes, etc.....when the opponent's defense can put that kind of pressure on the qb, there;s no passing game.

 

 

 

 

Baker was not my first pick...Josh Allen was. He reminded me of Testeverde, who was a bust until he had the right coaching. Mayfield is our QB, and I'm not ready to give up on him. He's never going to be Aaron Rodgers, but when he is playing with confidence, he can be more than adequate to win games. As for yesterday...he sucked. He should not have been playing...especially against the Squealers. Personally, I think his confidence was severely damaged last season, and he is still not fully recovered. He may never be the same player we saw at the end of 2018. I'm not trying to make excuses, but the team needs stability at the qb position. I think we have the right coach....even though he had a bad day yesterday, so I'm not ready to bench Mayfield in favor of Case Keenum...yet. However, with the injured ribs, I think I would have strongly considered starting Keenum yesterday.

54 minutes ago, D Bone said:

Yea, I went all preachy and judgey which I try to never do, but I just get so frustrated with the world around me now. 

I'll be better. 

It's ok to get preachy and judgey.....keep doing it.

I'm 70 years old, no health issues, no medication, active runner, and I haven't been sick in at least 10 years. I've been a vegetarian since 1973. It will be a cold day in Hell when I willingly accept a flu shot of any type. I only wear a mask when I have to enter a place of business that requires it. The morons who want to wear a mask for the rest of their lives can do so. I couldn't care less. 

2 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

Except that we have like an entirely new 53 man roster from five or 10 years ago and it hasn’t improved from then. So it’s not just experience. I don’t know can it  really be just ownership? That’s the only thing that has been constant. New coaches new players new GM’s GM’s yet they all do the same lose badly? But the owner just puts the money up he doesn’t run things per se yet it seems that his stench remains throughout. 

I've opined from every angle since '99 about this team, and I'm now at a complete loss. I have no idea what to change. They've changed players, coaches, and even owners with absolutely no significant improvement. The, team still doesn't catch the ball well, doesn't tackle well, doesn't stop the run well, doesn't defend the pass well, etc. Please explain how in Hell do you not have a pretty good team, after loading up with talent like they did last year, improving on that, then hiring a coach who is respected and obviously ( to me, anyway ) knows what he's doing? Aside from all the crap about no preseason games, limited practice, a new offensive system, a few injuries, blah, blah, blah....what can you blame this on? When you come up with the answer for this, then answer this...Why is it..... it doesn't matter who the Ratbirds put out there on the field...they are always contenders? If we would have drafted Lamar Jackson, he would out of football by now.

1 hour ago, Bammer said:

How can they get it so wrong every damn year??

It comes with experience....they're good at it.....

1 hour ago, nickers said:

Hes responsible for OBJ being here.. ..

Well...then, I guess he's responsible for every player being here. Do you think the talent is that bad? I don't think OBJ will be here much longer....just a feeling.

1 hour ago, nickers said:

It's what you should expect when we have had shitty ownership for the last 50 some odd years... At least Art gave us watchable football... I'm not sure what this shit is the Haslams are slingin'... I can only tell you it ain't good... They need to sell like yesterday...

That's where I was last season.... Haslam's fault. While I would love to see him sell, somehow I just am not convinced he's responsible for OBJ dropping that ball, yesterday, or the Ravens' receivers being wide open all day. This team needs to change. I'm just at a loss as where to start.

Yep....the start of another Browns season. New coaches...new players....new game plan. Exactly the same old crap. I honestly believe, at this point, that you could assemble the best players in the NFL at every position, the best coaches, and put them in Browns' uniforms, and they would play exactly the same as what we've been watching since 1999. No logic...no reasonable explanation...I've seen it for so long, I'm convinced that's just the way it is supposed to be.

On 7/29/2020 at 5:51 PM, The Gipper said:

For malaria. Would you use Xanax to treat cancer 

If I had cancer, I might try anything. If a drug proves effective for malaria, and has no harmful side effects, why not? 

On 7/19/2020 at 7:07 PM, Icecube said:

Everytime you think their days are over as a contender, they find a way to get right back into the mix of being an upper team. 

How do they do it?

 

They draft well, and keep drafting well. They come off a 14-2 season and have one of, if not THE best drafts in the NFL. It's crazy they nabbed Queen, Dobbins, Madubuike and Duvernay in the draft after going 14-2, just insane. 

Ownership

This guy reminds me of 20 - 30 years ago, observing kids doing the dumbest things you could imagine......thinking that...."if that's the future, we are in big trouble".... Well......we ARE in big trouble. 

14 hours ago, hoorta said:

Please- just because you don't know anyone who's had covid doesn't mean it doesn't exist. One of the guys on the Browns Forum had it, for starters. About 5 folks who work at the place I worked at before I retired have come down with it, and my friends are now spending 1\2 their work day decontaminating the place.... 

The issue of your like\dislike of Trump really shouldn't be related to the virus that's floating around. Is the media playing it up for reasons I don't totally understand? Sure. Do they have an agenda? Trump supporters think so. I doubt very many deaths that were really from other causes being declared covid deaths. The White House sure made it a point around a month ago to claim the CDC was padding the numbers. I tend to believe those numbers are accurate...

And the numbers say more American deaths than the Vietnam War, or World War I, and will soon approach the number of Confederate battle deaths in the Civil War. It's not the kung-flu as Trump called it at his rally- it's way more lethal than that. You can joke about it, call it names, ignore it, whatever- Mr. President you're not going to be able to make it go away. Sorry about that. If we as a Nation are at the point of saying- screw it, no masks, whoever dies dies- guess that's the way it's going to be.  

 

Again...."the numbers say...blah, blah, blah"...Until you have responsible testing with no agenda to sway the numbers, we will never know how deadly this virus is. Like another poster said...if you're terrified, stay inside. Personally, I'll take my chances. You can "Chicken Little" me all day, but until the sky falls on my head, I'm going on with my life. 

13 hours ago, cccjwh said:

Because you read nothing but right wing nuts job "news" sites and don't bother to check if what they are telling you is true. 

WTF do you know about what I read??...10 years ago I considered myself a Democrat. Due to the real nut jobs who are representing your political party, I've moved on. I'm certainly no Republican, either. The idiotic agenda of people like you is killing this country. 

6 hours ago, cccjwh said:

Hey how much a real world example? Six of CJ staffers tested positive for COVID. If they were not tested, they would have worked the rally and spread it to other people. Those six would have turned into dozens, hundreds or more. Instead they quarantine themselves and don't spread it. So, yes testing is important. Isn't it amazing that something so simple, has to be debated. 

Just curious how many died people are needed for the deniers to admit this is problem. 500k dead Americans? 1 million? Or does the number not matter as long as it is just old people dying?  

 

The key here, is just how accurate are these stats? Why the hell is it, people are supposedly dropping like flies, yet I know no one who has ever been confirmed of having this virus, let alone dying from it? Why do doctors get a $13k bonus for each case of Corona virus they "confirm"? Why do I read stories daily of people having heart attacks, or car accidents, then dying, but somehow Covid 19 is the cause of death? Why do Trump haters support this crap under such questionable "facts"? I get it if you're a die hard liberal...I don't judge anyone by their personal opinions. I'll even admit that Trump is a little "out there", but he was sure as hell better than the alternative in 2016...and will be the best option for 2020..in my opinion, of course.

7 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

 well better for contract use, two behind the ear...

WSS

I don't want to be quite that close.....but that would do it.

Testing?....what difference does it make if the numbers are inaccurate? I've heard more than one medical professional say that if you've had a flu shot recently, you're going to test positive for this Corona virus. Maybe I'm just a conspiracy theorist, but everything that has transpired over the last few months has confirmed to me, that this has always been 90% politically motivated. Trump probably has a lot more information to confirm this. That's why he comes across as so unconcerned about any real health threat. Recent reports indicate that this thing is diminishing by itself. Of course, you won't get that info from Faucci or the WHO. They have similar agendas...MONEY. Why do the daily reports tell us the total number of positive cases reported from day one? This thing runs it's course, then people recover. Why are the reports stated in a manner to let you assume that the total is current. They never say..."...45,000 people have tested positive over the last 4 months.".....they would rather mislead you by saying..."...we have 45,000 active cases in Ohio". That is a blatant lie.