Canton Dawg Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 @ Tom Pelissero (USA Today sportswriter) NFL informed clubs on the transaction wire today that #Browns WR Josh Gordon will remain on the reserve/suspended list until further notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Gordon & Ant.Bryant both were not on 53 man roster being suspended? Still short 1 roster spot of 53 for Reiter? Right? Correct, Gordo & Bryant did not count against the 53 man. Since Reiter was brought over from another team's PS, he had to be placed on the 53 man roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 More like the MUP list - Mentally Unable to Perform.That's for sure, given opportunities that 99.999%+ of the general population never can dream of yet throw it away with both hands. The NFL has programs and mentors some just don't or can't follow along. Best of luck to him in his next chosen profession.....unless he gets yet another shot at professional football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 AHAHAHAHA!!!! Josh Gordon gets the LAST LAUGH~~!!! AHAHAHAHAH!!!! The indefinite suspension list is hilarious.....fucking hilarious. He and johnny can drink up now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 The indefinite suspension list is hilarious.....fucking hilarious. He and johnny can drink up now Mark, on this we can agree. It ain't funny. Throw Justin Blackmon in the mix. Bet the ranch the dumbass failed another drug test. Haha PG? I'm betting Gordon got the Death Penalty this time. Or do you really think Old Rodger is gonna believe Josh as far as he could throw him next year when the possibility of reinstatement comes up? Hell's Bells, it all got explained to Gordon plain as mud back in April when he got the conditional reinstatement- and he couldn't live up to the terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 I would like to express my sympathies to Josh Gordon in this way: Go fuck yourself Josh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Josh Gordon was going to be reinstated this week. He checked into rehab to avoid a setback. There have been no reports he failed anymore tests. This is a precautionary measure only. When Gordon gets out he'll be fully reinstated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 That's not what DawgPound Daily, Bleacher Report and CBS Sports reported. They all reported he failed a test and is suspended indefinitely. He's got time to rehab now. I hope he makes it. But his football career is in suspended animation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Josh Gordon was going to be reinstated this week. He checked into rehab to avoid a setback. There have been no reports he failed anymore tests. This is a precautionary measure only. When Gordon gets out he'll be fully reinstated. Sorry Po, he has been indefinitely suspended again. It's over. Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Sorry Po, he has been indefinitely suspended again. It's over. Z And that's why long time AA/NA members call addiction "baffling". Millions of $$$ down the drain with zero understanding on the part of the person under it's spell. I suspect those here who have ever been caught in it's web of self deception have a better understanding of it than all the rest of us combined. Logic and intent have nothing to do with conquering it. Step #1 "We admitted we were powerless over alcohol/drugs—that our lives had become unmanageable." Neither Josh nor JM have been able to take that first step. Very sad for all involved, Browns organization and fans included along with friends and family. Ironic that both fall back in it deeply just as they are being handed the keys to drive the O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Fuck him. He's an ex Brown and all he ever did was cause heartache here. Liars, drunks, trouble makers and gimps are about the only things I've seen come out of Texas. I wouldn't hire them to clean the wet spots out of the sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Look, Josh knew the rules. Everything was completely spelled out to him many times, and there were no gray areas. He allegedly did not play by those rules, and here we are (again). THAT BEING SAID, if a guy loses his effing career for alcohol, it's a tragedy. Again, I'm not making excuses for a guy who broke the rules in place, no matter how crazy I think they are to begin with. It gets further complicated when it comes to addiction. If Josh is truly an addict, it becomes an illness. I know many people don't believe that, but it's irrelevant. Addiction is classified as an illness. From everything we've heard (and seen), Josh was doing everything he was supposed to when it came to football. If the reports are correct, and the guy DID have a relapse with alcohol, he is effectively being punished for being sick. When it comes to addiction, an overwhelmingly HUGE amount of people relapse a few times before figuring out how to best deal with their issue. I've heard stories of people with 20 years of sobriety losing focus and using again. The obvious goal to recovery is not to use, but it's also to figure out ways to create a life without the drugs/alcohol. That's harder than many people think. It's not about relapsing, it's about HOW LONG the person takes to get back to their recovery. In other words, if you slip up, don't STAY getting drunk/high, get back to recovery strategies. Was Josh hurting himself or others? Was he getting violent? Driving while drunk? Failing to report to meetings? On the practice field hungover? Josh knew the rules and he broke them, but if he's an addict, I don't know ANY OF THEM that could have made it in that environment. An environment where one slip up costs you your life and career? Haven't met an addict yet that could've made it, and I work with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Fuck him. He's an ex Brown and all he ever did was cause heartache here. Liars, drunks, trouble makers and gimps are about the only things I've seen come out of Texas. I wouldn't hire them to clean the wet spots out of the sheets. Better not say that around Coleman and Drago. Or one of the best you ever had, Metcalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dste Ace Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Except that we're not just talking about one "slip up". Gordon was suspended at Baylor 2010 because it was his second "slip up". He was kicked off the team in 2011 because of his third "slip up". After transferring to Utah, he never made it on the field because of another "slip up". Since 2013, after too many "slip ups" for me to count, he has shown zero inclination to ever returning to the field for the Browns in any meaningful capacity. Why do we keep making excuses for this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Close this thread. He'll never play another down as a Brown. I hope his personal life is rewarding to him, but he should never be a topic of discussion here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Correct, Gordo & Bryant did not count against the 53 man. Since Reiter was brought over from another team's PS, he had to be placed on the 53 man roster. Yes, he had to be placed on the 53 man roster....but I assume that if he is placed on IR for the year that the Browns can still replace him. Right? I don't think the league rules say that if you take a player off another teams practice squad that if he goes on IR that that team must now only play with 52 on the active roster. That seems to be what you are implying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Josh Gordon was going to be reinstated this week. He checked into rehab to avoid a setback. There have been no reports he failed anymore tests. This is a precautionary measure only. When Gordon gets out he'll be fully reinstated. And you're other fan boy Trent Richardson is going to be a HOF running back and you're other fan boy Johnny Manziel is still going to "wreck this league". Give it up man....you're embarassing yourself. The guy had trouble in college and has been mostly nothing but trouble in the NFL. The dude has some serious demons he needs to get worked out. But as for playing in the NFL...that's a pipe dream at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Football teams roll the dice on players with problems in college. Counting on them to snap out of it isn't a good bet. A player who loves the game, doesn't do that crap. A player with character and a strong work ethic doesn't do that crap. Tired of teams drafting crap just because they are very, very athletic. Irresponsible behavior has consequences - he did it to himself long before he got to the NFL and got rich. Gone like yesterday. Time to move on. Just another "too bad". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Josh Gordon was going to be reinstated this week. He checked into rehab to avoid a setback. There have been no reports he failed anymore tests. This is a precautionary measure only. When Gordon gets out he'll be fully reinstated. PoG, just stop. It's over. He's done....... You swung and missed on Trent, Johnny and Josh and continuing to post about their 'greatness' makes your Derek Carr prognostication look like dumb luck. Just take Carr and run with it.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Josh Gordon was going to be reinstated this week. He checked into rehab to avoid a setback. There have been no reports he failed anymore tests. This is a precautionary measure only. When Gordon gets out he'll be fully reinstated. That's not what DawgPound Daily, Bleacher Report and CBS Sports reported. They all reported he failed a test and is suspended indefinitely. He's got time to rehab now. I hope he makes it. But his football career is in suspended animation. Yup- he doesn't magically get to come back after rehab. It's probably for the rest of the season, depending on the circumstances. Should King Roger deign to conditionally reinstate him next year, the Browns will most likely unload him for a six pack of Busch (pun intended) to the first taker to get him off their hands. Losta luck Josh on staying clean. Such an incredible waste of talent. As Hue said "we're moving on." Seems the Browns and 95%+ of the fans have had enough of wasted potential that can't get on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Some of you guys needs a serious reality check on what addiction does to you as a person. I'm not condoning, excusing or anything else for the decisions he's made. The thing is though, you guys are thinking rationally in so many of your comments. WHY would he give up millions of dollars?! WHY would he waste so much talent?! WHY would he wait until so late to get help?! etc, etc... The point is, those are rational things to say and things that are indeed frustrating, even impossible to work around. However, it's not as though someone like Gordon doesn't understand this at a basic level. It's that, for true addicts, that irrational process completely controls their decision making. It's something myself and most everyone here can't (literally) wrap their head around. Actions have consequences, and for him the big consequence is that he likely will never play football again. But Jesus, it's not as though addiction is something someone simply chooses to do-it's a real illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Gip - Any player put on the IR doesn't count against the 53 man roster, BUT their salary does go against the team's cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Gip - Any player put on the IR doesn't count against the 53 man roster, BUT their salary does go against the team's cap. OK, so, the Browns do have an opening they need to fill.....why haven't they done that yet? Looking for the right guy, I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 I was afraid of these 4 weeks of separation. Football teams roll the dice on players with problems in college. Counting on them to snap out of it isn't a good bet. A player who loves the game, doesn't do that crap. A player with character and a strong work ethic doesn't do that crap. What "crap" is that, cal? Be Human? Some of you guys needs a serious reality check on what addiction does to you as a person. I'm not condoning, excusing or anything else for the decisions he's made. The thing is though, you guys are thinking rationally in so many of your comments. WHY would he give up millions of dollars?! WHY would he waste so much talent?! WHY would he wait until so late to get help?! etc, etc... The point is, those are rational things to say and things that are indeed frustrating, even impossible to work around. However, it's not as though someone like Gordon doesn't understand this at a basic level. It's that, for true addicts, that irrational process completely controls their decision making. It's something myself and most everyone here can't (literally) wrap their head around. Actions have consequences, and for him the big consequence is that he likely will never play football again. But Jesus, it's not as though addiction is something someone simply chooses to do-it's a real illness. Gordon's announcement rang true to my ear. Paternity suit... warrants... etc... Stress sends folks back to all sorts of "crutches"... nicotine for me. No telling what it was for Josh. Also no telling if he merely reached for or actually succumbed to his crutch in this instance. His continued suspension status costs us nothing. Pending any new developments, I hope we keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 OK, so, the Browns do have an opening they need to fill.....why haven't they done that yet? Looking for the right guy, I guess? Yup- digging through the weeds to find someone who may be a decent o-line isn't easy at this point of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dste Ace Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Keep him on the roster, if it doesn't cost us anything, then fuck it, whatever. But Gordon has unequivocally demonstrated that the Browns cannot count on him to contribute on the field. As Hue said, stop wasting time talking about him. Let's move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Yup- digging through the weed to find someone who may be a decent o-line isn't easy at this point of the season. Mike Matthews was working out for the Redskins...but I am not aware that they signed him. He is a center. Did they see enough of him to know they didn't want him? Can he be so bad that even the Browns with their OL woes would pass on him? I take it that whomever they sign will be very young? Or are they just waiting for Erving to get healthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Mike Matthews was working out for the Redskins...but I am not aware that they signed him. He is a center. Did they see enough of him to know they didn't want him? Can he be so bad that even the Browns with their OL woes would pass on him? I take it that whomever they sign will be very young? Or are they just waiting for Erving to get healthy? We could resign Matthews to the practice squad Gip. The reason he got cut is he needs to put on bulk and gain upper body strength. Elite nose tackles will destroy him. It's not looking good for Erving right now. He's shown little improvement over last year. & he was getting pancaked on a regular basis then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 It's not looking good for Erving right now. He's shown little improvement over last year. & he was getting pancaked on a regular basis then. Wouldn't be shocked to see him getting washed out in training camp next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 What "crap" is that, cal? Be Human? Tour **************************************************** I'm human. we all are. how many of us forfeit an NFL career for booze and illegal drugs? You are saying all humans do booze and dope and get addicted? We know a great gal who has little terrific daughters, and the ex boozed himself into a DUI, out of his marriage, into more trouble, including meth after the divorce, lost his job... paid no attention to the family later, still in rehab now. The Mom and daughters are humsn too, Tour. I can understand one crash out of addiction, but continued crashes? that's out of serious bad choices out of selfishness, imho. Those who didn't get help the first time made a terrible choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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