tiamat63 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 But I guess that's right. For that matter I can't think of a single qualification it would make Al Franken a good United States Senator. Or any number of u.s. Senators for that matter. Or congressman or even presidents. Like I said if she were a union flack an appointed by a Democrat I'm sure you guys would have a different View. WSS What do you mean 'you guys'...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 What do you mean 'you guys'...? I mean whoever it was I was replying to there and those who believe similarly. Why? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 she's qualified if she does a great job, so STFU. lol obamao was not qualified -and he did a suckass destructive racist sombietch job of it, and you libs couldn't care less. Political benefit is non-existent for the libs, so NOW qualifications matter out of spite. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 she's qualified if she does a great job, so STFU. lol obamao was not qualified -and he did a suckass destructive racist sombietch job of it, and you libs couldn't care less. Political benefit is non-existent for the libs, so NOW qualifications matter out of spite. haha Obama was previously a senator, previously a member of the IL senate, a constitutional law and civil rights professor, and is 'unqualified'. What does that make Trump's qualifications? Or DeVos'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 yet the TRUTH is...he voted "present" so no one would know how he really stood. 129 times. and sure, he taught Constitutional law. And he did NOT support our Constitution. So, he LIED ABOUT DEFENDING OUR CONSTITUTION> Obama Complains He's 'Constrained' By the Constitution - Fox Nation nation.foxnews.com/...obama/.../obama-complains-hes-constrained-const... Apr 4, 2013 - OBAMA: GUN CONTROL WON'T LEAD TO CONFISCATION BECAUSE 'I AM CONSTRAINED BY A SYSTEM OUR FOUNDERS PUT IN ... President Obama's Top 10 Constitutional Violations Of 2013 - Forbes www.forbes.com/.../president-obamas-top-10-constitutional-violations-of... Dec 23, 2013 - The president has elevated the Constitution by blatantly violating the strictures of our ... And earlier this year, President Obama said in announcing his new ... Responding to complaints about the University of Montana's ... Barack Obama's Poor Understanding of the Constitution | Op Ed | US ... www.usnews.com/.../barack-obamas-poor-understanding-of-the-constitut... Nov 3, 2008 - A 2001 interview of Sen. Barack Obama saying some pretty remarkable things about what he sees as the inadequacy of our Constitution has ... President 'Present' - | National Review www.nationalreview.com/article/357412/president-present-john-fund Sep 3, 2013 - Its basis is the 129 times he voted “present. ... in 2007 in part because “when we needed someone to take a stand, Senator Obama took a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 here is what president asswhole obamao said about our Constitution, Chrissy. as in, he says it's "just a piece of parchement" and that... ? HIS PEOPLE can make it what they want to make of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 so, Chrissy, you think obamao's dishonesty, bitter critic of our Constitution, affection for socialists and communists all his life, racist beliigerence, secretive bigotries that he held secret for so long.... his lies about how he stood for Real Marriage, and his lie about supporting our 2nd Amendment, his lies about going to be transparent, his lies about bringing us together, bipartisanship... that makes him qualifed to be president, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Obama was previously a senator, previously a member of the IL senate, a constitutional law and civil rights professor, and is 'unqualified'. What does that make Trump's qualifications? Or DeVos'? Trump's qualifications? Owns and operates a huge multinational corporation and does it reasonably well. There's more to being the president than just being a political Flack . By the way Obama was never a professor he was a lecturer, a step up the ladder from Proctor. And got into Harvard thanks to affirmative action.And if qualifications are so damned important to you all of a sudden how could he have possibly lost to John McCain? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 For an elected official, qualifications only matter in so far as they drive voters to vote for that official. That's the American system, like it or not. But in my opinion, when an elected official is tasked with appointing leaders, he or she owes it to the people he or she serves put forth candidates with significant experience in the departments they will oversee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Because you appeared to be anti Trump. One of the reasons he was elected is because people are a little bit sick of hacks running everything. Ironic because on the other hand the anti Trump gang bitches and whines about the fact that the cabinet contains rich people. Sorry guys maybe we should have some homeless people there. There's a reason billionaires are billionaires. I'm sure some think it's because they've cheated the little man. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Before Cal went off on his normal Cal tangent, I still hadn't seen anyone give an actual reason why she's qualified... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Before Cal went off on his normal Cal tangent, I still hadn't seen anyone give an actual reason why she's qualified... Or why she isn't. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 She has 0 experience working in or attending public schools. She's never had to worry about the student loan process Alright, now why is she qualified. Because to be yet to come up with a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 She has 0 experience working in or attending public schools. She's never had to worry about the student loan process Alright, now why is she qualified. Because to be yet to come up with a reason. So you are qualified? I guess that just about sums it up. Oh wait you're a rich kid and never really had to worry about a student loan. Cool. So if she took a student loan for some stupid fucking subject, like theater, and found that she couldn't get a job and couldn't pay back the loan she be qualified then? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 So you didn't read what Senator Lieberman said? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 So you are qualified? I guess that just about sums it up. Oh wait you're a rich kid and never really had to worry about a student loan. Cool. So if she took a student loan for some stupid fucking subject, like theater, and found that she couldn't get a job and couldn't pay back the loan she be qualified then? WSS I'm not rich. I did have loans. I paid them off. I'm not trying to be Secretary of Education Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 So you didn't read what Senator Lieberman said? WSS It's not that she doesn't come from the "education establishment". She literally has no experience with the public school system. I think I see how this is going "How is she qualified?" Steve - "What ARE qualifications really anyway?"..... "Well the DEMOCRATS DID!...." .... "Well Trump likes her so she's qualified!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 She's qualified because she's been involved with the process, weather or not you think lobbyist is some sort of pariah word. She's not part of the teachers union establishment which hasn't done a great job so far, right? Except for to line their own pockets and make actual education harder for the people who pay taxes for it. It's high time to break that not working box and Trump understands that. The president wants her advice and understand that experience and Leadership can translate into success in other fields. Senatorr Lieberman thinks she knows her shit and has no reason to lie. You and you wood man, on the other hand think that she's not qualified because she hasn't had to worry about a student loan and didn't go to public school. Neither of those two so-called qualifications mean Jack schit. If she had would you think that was qualified? Charles Manson went to a public school. By the way she probably got a better education but not going to a public school and there's another plus. Same reason Obama's kids don't go to public school or Hillary's. But whatever her expertise might be it afforded her the opportunity to be in a complex leadership position with a great deal of success and president Trump believes that makes her capable I'm looking at the education problems and maybe seeing a different angle. And the president should be allowed to pick people he wants without sharing Chuck Schumer Al Franken or Woody's ideology. And frankly T I don't know what difference it possibly makes that you've gone too public and private school. So have I. But having a grip on business would certainly help because education is a business and it's not being run efficiently at the present time. But having an opinion on whether to teach Huckleberry Finn in the 11th or 12th grade or how many actual hours of work a union teacher is forced to endear during a day pale in comparison to getting such a large and unwieldy system to operate efficiently. That business acumen and that ideology appears to be more important to the president classroom experience. And I think it is too. I minored in secondary ed and I certainly understand the reluctance of Union teachers to have to operate under the rules that most people do. Work four or five hours a day 9 months a year, rote teaching from a pre-ordained lesson plan? Schools dropping extracurricular activities because teachers have to be paid two or three times the average working person and Performing about half the work and retiring 10 years earlier on the public dime? Yes T these things that a business person could work on. And we should work on those and I believe President probably wants to work on those. Hence his decision. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 And exactly correct. Trump likes her and she shares his point of view about public vs private school Senator Lieberman says she knows her shit and that's enough qualifications for him to selecthe her. The Democrats would prefer a union leech but tough shit. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Charles Manson went to a public school. WSS And I'm officially not wasting my time anymore Straight out of the Typical Steve playbook. Thread starts with you being an ass and getting called out, and by just asking rhetorical questions and dragging the debate in certain directions by putting arguments into people's mouths, we've officially lost any resemblance of a point. I know you'll count it as a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 ... You still haven't answered his question, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 And I'm officially not wasting my time anymore Straight out of the Typical Steve playbook. Thread starts with you being an ass and getting called out, and by just asking rhetorical questions and dragging the debate in certain directions by putting arguments into people's mouths, we've officially lost any resemblance of a point. I know you'll count it as a win. Not really you didn't have a point to begin with. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 ... You still haven't answered his question, Steve. Look back a couple of posts I think I've answered it at least twice, if you don't like the answer I can't help that. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Somebody call the WAAAAAAMBULANCE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 She has 0 experience working in or attending public schools. She's never had to worry about the student loan process Understanding, from the inside, how the system works, isnt a qualification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Mitch Daniels: DeVos qualified for the job | MSNBC www.msnbc.com/.../mitch-daniels-devos-qualified-for-the-job-8563579... 6 days ago - Mitch Daniels, the former Indiana governor, expects Betsy DeVos to be confirmed despite any controversy, the potential looming debt crisis and ... Joe Lieberman: Betsy DeVos Is Qualified Because She Is Not Part of ... www.breitbart.com/.../lieberman-devos-qualified-not-part-education-esta... 5 days ago - Joe Lieberman, the 2000 Democratic nominee for vice president and former Connecticut senator, told Breitbart News he testified in favor of Betsy DeVos, President-elect Donald J. Trump’s nominee for secretary of education, because she cares about helping schoolchildren, not ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Betsy Devos is the perfect choice for Sec of Education. With all the antagonistic, liberal partisan, anti-Christian, anti-Bible/kids praying on their freetime, anti-charter schools/anti-voucher. Thank God Trump nominated her - that needs to be fixed. "And she's been called "the four-star general of the voucher movement," for her activism on this issue, which includes her present-day gigs as a board member of Advocates for School Choice and as head of All Children Matter, a group that has pumped contributions into state elections since its inception in 2003. Conservative education reforms—school vouchers, in particular—are its rallying cause, and the organization claims a "win/loss record" of 121 to 60, including the defeat of 17 incumbents who were against school vouchers, as well as the successful election of four pro-voucher governors: Bobby Jindal in Louisiana, Matt Blunt in Missouri, Jon Huntsman Jr. In Utah, and Mitch Daniels in Indiana." You can't fix it when you have someone ingrained in the status quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Look back a couple of posts I think I've answered it at least twice, if you don't like the answer I can't help that. WSS I saw you answer with several non rhetorical questions, that was about it. So I'll ask the question - what, in your opinion (beside her lobbying, which really isn't experience inside the educational system itself) makes her qualified for the position? I genuinely ask because I am someone that has attended both private grade school and public school and can attest to some of their differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 what are the requirements established for the sec of ed? or, do they get to be determined by the president? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Understanding, from the inside, how the system works, isnt a qualification. Wut? Are any of you gainfully employed? Cause the private sector doesn't typically hire people cause someone feels real good about a person who has zero demonstrable experience in the job he/she is applying for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.