Orion Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 Can't read the article...as mpj28 illustrates...but I like Pluto. I usually agree with everything he says in his articles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Orion said: Can't read the article...as mpj28 illustrates...but I like Pluto. I usually agree with everything he says in his articles. Oh yes Terry is a great journalist and an expert on Cleveland area sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/12/bernie-kosar-he-picked-us-vintage-browns-excerpt-2-terry-pluto.html 🎅 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/12/baker-mayfield-co-are-back-after-the-bye-week-and-im-nervous-terrys-talkin-browns.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/12/sick-of-losing-to-baltimore-time-for-browns-to-change-that-terry-plutos-pregame-scribbles.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 "18. Prediction: In another weekend story, I wrote about Baker Mayfield and the offense. They will decide this game. Browns 20, Baltimore 16." My thought exactly. We must score this time around. That is totally on Baker. End of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/12/browns-victory-over-baltimore-scary-at-the-end-but-still-counts-terry-pluto.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 27 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/12/browns-victory-over-baltimore-scary-at-the-end-but-still-counts-terry-pluto.html Can't read it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/12/browns-play-with-so-much-heart-but-its-a-real-kick-in-the-gut-to-lose-terry-pluto.html Yep I thought it was a great effort for what that's worth. And early in the game too many three-and-outs gases the defensive players by the end of the game. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 Yes, it was a storybook ending...that didn't happen...and it ruined the whole storybook. I wanted so badly for that kid to get that win. He did a solid job in very strange circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 F'n Browns kickers. 👎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 On 12/22/2021 at 7:08 AM, TexasAg1969 said: F'n Browns kickers. 👎 F'n Covid panic WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/12/browns-loss-a-heart-breaker-on-a-lousy-call-and-lousy-throws-by-baker-mayfield-terry-pluto.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 36 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/12/browns-loss-a-heart-breaker-on-a-lousy-call-and-lousy-throws-by-baker-mayfield-terry-pluto.html Must have a subscription to read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, Browns149 said: Must have a subscription to read That's funny that happens to some folks. I don't have subscription but it always pops up for me. Don't know why. Sorry. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cleveland.com%2Fbrowns%2F2022%2F01%2Ffans-have-right-to-be-upset-with-browns-terry-plutos-post-game-scribbles.html&h=AT1kQ31ypnSeHxaqXnPyQi2iN4tR4esY4n2DOHk5LDSR7kkccGqeBUom4ffBINHjMceN5BGOHYE-8V2weeaObZmT1FbBveR4QXERDDFCxsoX2bqHnlspv6xu6p6_dzOt6Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cleveland.com%2Fbrowns%2F2022%2F01%2Fin-year-2-as-browns-head-coach-kevin-stefanski-had-first-year-problems-terry-pluto.html&h=AT1jqHpcZhveHglcwj-2W0hrX030f6mFkc6LzSFJShoOHAw16edcSGQNwMq_Cp_t6b1O5hU1u51S4mIqeEt52tnRkPtNfl5kIHx-klSiUlSRRZSUg4jlnltBE1W18oaPZg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cleveland.com%2Fbrowns%2F2022%2F01%2Fwhat-about-the-browns-now-that-they-missed-the-playoffs-terrys-talkin-browns.html&h=AT3hmPHAL4dmEXfscmAugjxTTgq680jvmRlwz1hPCAQuWkF4kuWbOI1CpbFneUO0Ffoh-edZkkZtuohwCYxQzEIIdGIn2xhC5ZzCgbm4JzyWP5YaI-Wag_Cf09ndyDvOFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 ...no can read... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 On 1/16/2022 at 10:12 AM, Orion said: ...no can read... I can always open this up sometimes if there's a pay wall a couple days later it opens up. Not sure it's the case for everybody? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/01/what-are-we-to-make-of-the-rise-of-odell-beckham-jr-with-the-rams-terrys-talkin-browns.html Anyway if you can read this one without the pay wall this is an excellent story about what happened with obj. Fans have a tendency to take stuff personally and missed the point. Pluto is pretty straight up. WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Westside Steve said: Anyway if you can read this one Thanks. I could read it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, Orion said: Thanks. I could read it. No clue why that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 good read ! 4. A criticism of Stefanski is his offense doesn’t feature receivers. It’s running backs and tight ends. But when you have Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt (or even the underrated D’Ernest Johnson) it makes sense to rely on the run. Pluto, telling it like it is.... ^^ Wide Receiver The average NFL team has 5.7 WRs on their roster. 2020 (6) – Odell Beckham Jr., Rashard Higgins, KhaDarel Hodge, Jarvis Landry, JoJo Natson, Donovan Peoples-Jones 2021 (5+1) – Odell Beckham Jr., Jarvis Landry, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Anthony Schwartz, Rashard Higgins, (Demetric Felton) The Browns used 3 wide receiver sets on 44% of snaps during the 2021 season and 42% during 2020, both 29th highest in the league. Unless Stefanski plans to reduce his tight-end snaps and increase the wide receiver usage it will mean we need to prioritize players who can play on the outside. The tight ends and running back will operate in the short to medium range, this means the Browns need the wide receivers to stretch the medium to the deep area. Failure to do this will congest the field and make it harder for both the quarterback/offense to perform. ^^ and why Berry & Stef's, season ending pressers were addressed by media about 'offensive schemes' ^^^ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Pluto's Q & A's with the fans... The Land's best... https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/01/what-about-stefanskis-offense-would-a-receiver-want-to-come-to-browns-hey-terry.html this may lock shortly.. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/02/with-the-browns-when-is-enoughenough-wentz-or-trubisky-hey-terry.html Agreed WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 3. I believe they would have won two more games if they had played Case Keenum against Pittsburgh (twice). Baker Mayfield was beat up. I hope they learned something from that. They also lost 16-10 to Baltimore with Mayfield looking physically worn out. Here's the problem I have with that; if the medical team is telling you ('you' are the HC) that the starting QB is medically cleared to play...and the player tells you that he's good to play...and he partakes in practices...and yet you decide to start the backup...what reason are you going to give? a) You're gonna say that your medical team is crap? You're sitting him because he's hurt? b) You're sitting him because you think the backup is better. Those are the choices. You certainly can't say, I'm not going to start him because he's in a slump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 9:32 PM, Orion said: 3. I believe they would have won two more games if they had played Case Keenum against Pittsburgh (twice). Baker Mayfield was beat up. I hope they learned something from that. They also lost 16-10 to Baltimore with Mayfield looking physically worn out. Here's the problem I have with that; if the medical team is telling you ('you' are the HC) that the starting QB is medically cleared to play...and the player tells you that he's good to play...and he partakes in practices...and yet you decide to start the backup...what reason are you going to give? a) You're gonna say that your medical team is crap? You're sitting him because he's hurt? b) You're sitting him because you think the backup is better. Those are the choices. You certainly can't say, I'm not going to start him because he's in a slump. You play Baker, and when he shows he isn't better, you play the sub. Players are always going to say they are good to go....well, at least most are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 12 hours ago, ballpeen said: You play Baker, and when he shows he isn't better, you play the sub. Yup...but that kicks the can to the next corner. We'd already been seeing less than stellar games. And so being medically cleared to play now you're benching him because he stinks (I mean, he doesn't have his 'A' game)...and Stef just refused to pull him for performance reasons. edit and add: I'll go further and hypothesize that maybe, in some small part, Stef didn't play Keenum because Baker would've become a team morale issue. All we know for sure is that Stef was steadfast, the whole time, that Baker would start if healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 6:26 PM, Orion said: Yup...but that kicks the can to the next corner. We'd already been seeing less than stellar games. And so being medically cleared to play now you're benching him because he stinks (I mean, he doesn't have his 'A' game)...and Stef just refused to pull him for performance reasons. edit and add: I'll go further and hypothesize that maybe, in some small part, Stef didn't play Keenum because Baker would've become a team morale issue. All we know for sure is that Stef was steadfast, the whole time, that Baker would start if healthy. On 2/23/2022 at 6:26 PM, Orion said: Yup...but that kicks the can to the next corner. We'd already been seeing less than stellar games. And so being medically cleared to play now you're benching him because he stinks (I mean, he doesn't have his 'A' game)...and Stef just refused to pull him for performance reasons. edit and add: I'll go further and hypothesize that maybe, in some small part, Stef didn't play Keenum because Baker would've become a team morale issue. All we know for sure is that Stef was steadfast, the whole time, that Baker would start if healthy. I don't see it that way. Being medically cleared in this case didn't mean he would be able to play at 100%. Doctors aren't commenting on a players ability to play in top form. They are simply saying that from a medial standpoint he isn't or wasn't going to cause further damage. The muscle was torn. It couldn't tear any further and it being torn wasn't going to cause other problems if he played. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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