jiggins7919 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Gregg Williams mentioned that Denzel Ward was progressing through the concussion protocol, and then I had a thought, "Is it even worth bringing him back?" If we're out of the playoff race, we've only got two games left, and I'm pretty sure this is Denzel's 2nd concussion (I could be wrong), is it even worth playing him this year considering concussions are easier to get once you've had one, AND they're literally a brain injury? If it were me, I'd sit him down. He's shown me enough, and I want him to get healthy and also protect his melon. He'll be ready to kick azz next year. I've also heard an argument that we should sit Baker Mayfield because we're out of the playoffs and why risk an injury when you're a team that hasn't had a franchise QB in 20 years, and we FINALLY have one? At first I scoffed at the idea of sitting Baker, but then the nightmare of "What happens if he gets hurt?" started creeping in my mind, and I about threw up, LMAO. In all seriousness, I would most certainly NOT sit Baker. If we had locked up the playoffs and we couldn't improve our seating in week 17, that's one thing. I could see sitting some starters like the Steelers and other teams have done over the years. But Baker is a rookie, and while he's playing well, he still has much to learn and the best way to learn is to play. Also, I seriously doubt Baker WOULD sit out if the coaches told him to, hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 I’m ok with Ward sitting. I’d imagine Mayfield playing and developing his reads for the rest of the year. While also piling up stats for a potential rookie of the year. (3500+ yards) right now he’s at: 3,065 yds, 21 TD/11 int, 92.6 rating. Not too shabby... for a Browns rookie QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Ward, maybe, for the reasons you mention. Not Baker. These are still division games, and he needs to know what it is like to play a full AFCN schedule and to know what it takes to beat the (B)itchy Pussies and the Ratrapers. As long as he is not hurt. But...if he get's pinched somehow, then perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Ward maybe but the same logic applies to him as it does to Baker. He's still a rookie learning how to play in the NFL so if he's healthy, he should be out there playing. Sitting Baker is just stupid. He need to be playing and playing in real games. He's still a rookie and while he's played very well as a rookie, he's still learning and he isn't going to learn at this point watching Tyrod play QB the last 2 weeks. Play to win the last 2 games. 8-7-1 would be a great way to end the season. 7-8-1 isn't really all that bad considering where this team was the last 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 If Ward is healthy, I'd play him. No different now to next season if he's healthy now. Baker I'd for sure play because he needs the reps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzz2 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Think I would shut down Ward, missed what, last 2 games? And we know how the Concussion Protocol in the NFL works(wink wink) I just don't see a concussion as a 2 week heal, give that head a good time to rest. Mayfield, keep him playing, hopefully he gets to see a good old Northeast Ohio snow storm and play in it. Or just the bitter cold coming off the lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Ward? Yes... This is his 2nd time in protocol. Takes longer for the brain to truly recover than it does to clear protocol. And it's not like we don't know what we have in him. Use the reamining games to evaluate/develop CB depth. Baker? Play him... let him learn... if either game gets out of hand (either way), then give a backup some reps... probably TT to get some more of his play on tape under Kitchens. Aside: Given the apparent chemistry in the QB room between Baker and Stanton (who is under contract thru 2019), they are the core to which we can add a "prospect" Day 2 or 3 of the upcoming draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Ward? Yes... This is his 2nd time in protocol. Takes longer for the brain to truly recover than it does to clear protocol. And it's not like we don't know what we have in him. Use the reamining games to evaluate/develop CB depth. Baker? Play him... let him learn... if either game gets out of hand (either way), then give a backup some reps... probably TT to get some more of his play on tape under Kitchens. Aside: Given the apparent chemistry in the QB room between Baker and Stanton (who is under contract thru 2019), they are the core to which we can add a "prospect" Day 2 or 3 of the upcoming draft. I wonder if our boy Benkert can be had off the Dirty Birds practice squad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 51 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: I wonder if our boy Benkert can be had off the Dirty Birds practice squad... Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 6 hours ago, jiggins7919 said: Gregg Williams mentioned that Denzel Ward was progressing through the concussion protocol, and then I had a thought, "Is it even worth bringing him back?" If we're out of the playoff race, we've only got two games left, and I'm pretty sure this is Denzel's 2nd concussion (I could be wrong), is it even worth playing him this year considering concussions are easier to get once you've had one, AND they're literally a brain injury? If it were me, I'd sit him down. He's shown me enough, and I want him to get healthy and also protect his melon. He'll be ready to kick azz next year. I've also heard an argument that we should sit Baker Mayfield because we're out of the playoffs and why risk an injury when you're a team that hasn't had a franchise QB in 20 years, and we FINALLY have one? At first I scoffed at the idea of sitting Baker, but then the nightmare of "What happens if he gets hurt?" started creeping in my mind, and I about threw up, LMAO. In all seriousness, I would most certainly NOT sit Baker. If we had locked up the playoffs and we couldn't improve our seating in week 17, that's one thing. I could see sitting some starters like the Steelers and other teams have done over the years. But Baker is a rookie, and while he's playing well, he still has much to learn and the best way to learn is to play. Also, I seriously doubt Baker WOULD sit out if the coaches told him to, hahaha. good point with ward, but not baker.....by the way, we have not yet been eliminated although its probably less than 1 percent chance....but...i'd like to see that little orange helmet still on the in the hunt category at least till the last game.....that would be almost as awesome as beating the ravens and ruining their playoff hunt like the bengals did to them last yr.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 That schidt always backfires and they blow an achilles in training camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, browns52 said: good point with ward, but not baker.....by the way, we have not yet been eliminated although its probably less than 1 percent chance....but...i'd like to see that little orange helmet still on the in the hunt category at least till the last game.....that would be almost as awesome as beating the ravens and ruining their playoff hunt like the bengals did to them last yr.... Oh I'm totally with you. I'm having so much fun watching #6 out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 If you can play, play. Tomorrow is never promised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in? Depends on what the Steelers do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in? At this point who cares.. the Stools arent going far with that meager defense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in? not sure......i can't see the steelers beating the saints....then they play the bengals the last game at home....ehhhhh...me thinks they somehow pull that one out especially with aj green out....but who knows...this time of the yr drives me crazy with all the possibilities.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 Just now, nickers said: At this point who cares.. the Stools arent going far with that meager defense... their d looked pretty good against the pats.....however they are very inconsistant....my guess is when they go on the road the meager d shows up again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 minute ago, browns52 said: their d looked pretty good against the pats.....however they are very inconsistant....my guess is when they go on the road the meager d shows up again.... The pats are getting old.. Gordon disappeared.. Next year Bill will cut Brady for diminishing skills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, browns52 said: their d looked pretty good against the pats.....however they are very inconsistant....my guess is when they go on the road the meager d shows up again.... We shall see in NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 I'm going to be honest: I think Ward is a helluva talent, but I'm concerned about his ability to stay on the field. Sit him the rest the last two games, and pray to the patron saint of cornerbacks that I'm wrong about him long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 That's 'Pro Bowler' Denzel Ward to you, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: I think Ward is a helluva talent, but I'm concerned about his ability to stay on the field. yup! I'm certain we'll be drafting at least one CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 If they are healthy, they play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 Gladiators are born to fight. If Ward can play, you play the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 It is funny how the logic goes here. Rest Ward because we have slim playoff hopes? Helly, why not rest him 8 weeks ago when we sucked. Maybe we should give him a penectomy and put him in pantyhose? C'mon, stop being pussies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: If we beat the ravens, doesn't that ensure the steelers are in? No. But the Steelers would have to lose twice & finish 8-7-1, and the Ravens would have to beat the Chargers (lotsa luck there) and finish 9-7. In that scenario, our tie would cost Pittsburgh the division, and probably the playoffs, because it's near certain some of the teams in the Wild Card hunt will finish at least 9-7, if not 10-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 If they can play, let them. If the Dr says they shouldn’t play, sit them. See, it’s simple. ...sheesh, save them for what? A football game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 10 hours ago, hoorta said: No. But the Steelers would have to lose twice & finish 8-7-1, and the Ravens would have to beat the Chargers (lotsa luck there) and finish 9-7. In that scenario, our tie would cost Pittsburgh the division, and probably the playoffs, because it's near certain some of the teams in the Wild Card hunt will finish at least 9-7, if not 10-6. Since ur a mod and cant be put on ignore, how bout u just not reply to any of my posts and ill do the same....? Kthnxbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: Since ur a mod and cant be put on ignore, how bout u just not reply to any of my posts and ill do the same....? Kthnxbye Why are you getting your sphincter puckered over this very reasonable reply to your post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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