Gorka Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Should have there been an asterisk after this phrase in the Constitution? We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.* * Unless the safety of the people is called into question. In Oklahoma you can now be arrested and fined for hunting or fishing even if you're alone. In Michigan you can be fined and arrested for golfing... alone. Supposedly 10,000 in Lansing Mich protesting against their continued lockdown. Protests also in Louisiana, OK City, Kentucky, OH. VA. Protests expected in Pa. after Gov. Wolf vetos a bill that aims to lift the lockdown. Considering that the US death rate is only 77 people per 1,000,000 and the new COVID cases flattening, does anyone feel that we've become subjects of excessive government control? Just curious about your thoughts on this. Something to think about: If safety is your highest value then you'll want to hand yourself over to those in government that will keep you safe. If freedom and liberty is your highest virtue then you take power away from the oligarchs who want to control you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 ORANGE MAN BAD!! Just wanted to beat the TDS crowd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Axe said: ORANGE MAN BAD!! LOL...no matter what he does it will have been the wrong thing to do. Trumps picture will be right next to first person to die from corona after the lockdown has lifted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Social distancing will be for at least 1 - 1 1/2 more years, deal with it snowflakes.😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Gorka said: Considering that the US death rate is only 77 people per 1,000,000 and the new COVID cases flattening, does anyone feel that we've become subjects of excessive government control? I'm dying (pun intended) to know how you got that number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiswhere Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Gorka said: Should have there been an asterisk after this phrase in the Constitution? We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.* * Unless the safety of the people is called into question. LOL yeah put a * there for something will probably go on for a few months. I'm sure there are other who would put an * there for "stuff" thats been going on 100's of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 15 hours ago, Gorka said: Should have there been an asterisk after this phrase in the Constitution? We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.* * Unless the safety of the people is called into question. In Oklahoma you can now be arrested and fined for hunting or fishing even if you're alone. In Michigan you can be fined and arrested for golfing... alone. Supposedly 10,000 in Lansing Mich protesting against their continued lockdown. Protests also in Louisiana, OK City, Kentucky, OH. VA. Protests expected in Pa. after Gov. Wolf vetos a bill that aims to lift the lockdown. Considering that the US death rate is only 77 people per 1,000,000 and the new COVID cases flattening, does anyone feel that we've become subjects of excessive government control? Just curious about your thoughts on this. Something to think about: If safety is your highest value then you'll want to hand yourself over to those in government that will keep you safe. If freedom and liberty is your highest virtue then you take power away from the oligarchs who want to control you. Just some opinions - seems to me, that as free Americans - it's a sickening overreach to order people to stay inside their homes, period. Arrested and fined for going fishing, hunting or ALONE? WTF? That is lawsuit territory, and the state loses. I would like to blame in on democrat sombeitches, but I think the Oklahoma gov is a rep. Regardless, what are they going to start doing now? A tornado warning - if they find that you didn't go to your basement, you go to jail and get fined? I can see putting out serious warnings and advisories. But this isn't a martial law type of crisis. Now, if you are exposed and sick, and you go around and infect people to make some warped political statement? Then I would arrest that sicko. It comes down to this - a free people have discretion to run their own lives and make their own decisions. Inform em, advise them, but too many politicians don't understand the power of our Constitution...some willingly ignore it - to their serious discredit. There are sheriffs who are refusing to enforce these asinine declarations. I saw one of em read their mission - it had to do with the Constitution - not the whims of any politician. I've read where "safety" is a lever of power - the gov wants/demands that you be dependent on them for safety - one of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, at or near the top of the pyramid - meaning they must deny as much as possible - gun ownership. So people can't protect themselves. and "guaranteed income" is guaranteed votes and continued wealth and power for leftwing politicians. It's the old progressive/marxist/communist corrupt ploy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted April 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Good insightful comments as usual Cal. It's sometimes tough to determine where lines should be drawn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/04/17/yikes-sheriff-allegedly-threatened-teens-family-with-arrest-if-she-didnt-remove-posts-about-having-wuhan-coronavirus/ something is wrong upstairs with a hack sheriff that would allow himself to be a power-seeking hack. It's about protecting our precious CONSTITUTION. and protecting the CITIZENS WHO ELECTED HIM. that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 Gotta love the MSM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 First Coast News is an NBC affiliated station. Is NBC MSM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: First Coast News is an NBC affiliated station. Is NBC MSM? Do I understand your question correctly, are you asking if NBC is part of the mainstream media? Or was that a typo? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Axe said: Gotta love the MSM Actual picture: #FLORIDAMORONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 How did all those people get to TWO beaches on each coast of the country? 😮 And get their pictures taken in the exact same positions 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 42 minutes ago, Axe said: How did all those people get to TWO beaches on each coast of the country? 😮 And get their pictures taken in the exact same positions 🤪 Obviously the plans for the Concord are ahead of schedule WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted April 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Axe said: How did all those people get to TWO beaches on each coast of the country? 😮 And get their pictures taken in the exact same positions 🤪 The one on the right is most likely legit. Reported by the NY Post, the photo seems to have originated from Gainesville Fla.'s 97.3 WSKY news department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/16/2020 at 7:58 PM, DieHardBrownsFan said: Social distancing will be for at least 1 - 1 1/2 more years, deal with it snowflakes.😂 I assume you were being funny. Snowflakes? 18 months? Would you like to tell that to MLB, the NFL, and NBA? College football? The NCAA already took a billion or so hit canceling March Madness. The Browns play games in an empty stadium, OK- as a season ticket holder, I demand a refund of my 2020 PAID IN FULL ACCOUNT. Think I'll get it? Fat chance. MHO is there's a pretty good chance the regular NFL season won't start until November. From a sports perspective it's a financial impossibility playing games in empty stadiums. For sure, the Olympics are happening next summer regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 I think it all depends on what the situation with this damn virus is come fall. If it slows (if)down in the summer, then comes back again next fall, were in deep shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: I think it all depends on what the situation with this damn virus is come fall. If it slows (if)down in the summer, then comes back again next fall, were in deep shit. It will also depend on how fast they can ramp up testing for the virus, and more importantly virus antibodies. We should by fall have a lot better idea of what percentage of cases are mild and asymptomatic compared to the # of deaths. We already know Corona isn't Ebola with a extremely high fatality rate. I've mentioned- is potentially saving X number of people worth the cost of a 1930s level world wide depression? I see it coming. Read yesterday very possible 10% of restaurants may permanently fold with the consequent job loss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: I think No, you don't. You're just running a boring Bullshit troll act Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, Axe said: No, you don't. You're just running a boring Bullshit troll act Nah. If you don't like what I say, tough shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/18/swedish_epidemiologist_johan_giesecke_why_lockdowns_are_the_wrong_policy.html WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 Well it's time for the trumpettes to designate which close family or friends you think should be sacrificed to the new open it up too soon policy. 42,000+ is just not enough for the newer deeper second wave that is sure to come because of it. So fork over! Oh, you meant someone ELSE needs to go? Fancy that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 Just when I think people can't get any stupider, I listened to some of these protesters... and it what world is it now ok for the President to call for US citizen to "LIBERATE" states? (only the ones with Dem governors though...) Holy fuck could you imagine the absolute shitshow this board would be if Obama was on twitter telling protesting liberals to LIBERATE red states? I mean, I'm going to post and say I think it is ridiculous and unpresidential, but in that other scenario we'd have a full page of threads by now, and at least one would link Obama to the anti christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 dammit. Who taught Woody the "S***Show" word? The same one who taught him the "F" word? The reason Pres Trump said that - is because it seems to ONLY be democrat govenors who are violating the Constitution/Bill of Rights, and grabbing more and more power they aren't allowed to have - to effect their leftwing agenda. I imagine they were instructed to do it, so Pelosi could use the calamity against Pres Trump again. Openly flouting the restrictions on government - ObaMao commie hated that, and complained openly about it. The left demands more and more power -and they don't have any use for anyone or any famous, one of a kind brilliant Document that stops them. Too freaking bad. I predict a LOT of folks in Michigan and Virginia , to name two, will go FREEDOM and Republican next election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 https://www.afa.net/the-stand/culture/2020/04/shutdowns-were-pointless-all-along/?fbclid=IwAR01BZvO9OhxRXHlAbbNAkd_ig--zLANvwm8PRODq2Qcq59ByaeDQLlHOKg#.XpnwkkhQ_ZA.facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: Just when I think people can't get any stupider, I listened to some of these protesters... Yeah, I get the same feeling every time I have to read one one of your ignorant posts Quote and it what world is it now ok for the President to call for US citizen to "LIBERATE" states? (only the ones with Dem governors though...) Holy fuck could you imagine the absolute shitshow this board would be if Obama was on twitter telling protesting liberals to LIBERATE red states? I mean, I'm going to post and say I think it is ridiculous and unpresidential, but in that other scenario we'd have a full page of threads by now, and at least one would link Obama to the anti christ. I know you are young. we understand you are still stupid. What the fuck do you think he was saying here.. "We have to fundamentally transform bla blah blah.." Oh, wait, I forgot.. You aren't a democrat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: https://www.afa.net/the-stand/culture/2020/04/shutdowns-were-pointless-all-along/?fbclid=IwAR01BZvO9OhxRXHlAbbNAkd_ig--zLANvwm8PRODq2Qcq59ByaeDQLlHOKg#.XpnwkkhQ_ZA.facebook which, IMHO, a bunch of bullhockey. Here in America, our size and culture - it was never a lockdown like a lot of other countries could enforce. After the first week of the restrictions - a LOT of folks in our neck of the woods were going into stores with no mask, no gloves, didn't use the wipes to wipe off the carts, etc etc etc. I believe the restrictions did a ton of good - it's hard to say how many Americans might have died with this virus running every damn where. But, the curve in many places has flattened, and it's time by May 1st to let the good times roll and FREEDOM RING. Our lives are different now - this particular virus doesn't die in hrs, it can live for days - 3 to 6 in the last report I saw. It's been plenty enough time to figure that where the virus has burnt itself out - let life get back to normal. People will still tend to be careful. And if we go camping with friends this Sept... we aren't going to use their facilities, we'll bring out own. At least this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Axe said: Yeah, I get the same feeling every time I have to read one one of your ignorant posts I know you are young. we understand you are still stupid. What the fuck do you think he was saying here.. "We have to fundamentally transform bla blah blah.." Oh, wait, I forgot.. You aren't a democrat A democrat would be registered with the party and always vote for the candidates, right? Nothing about you screams "intelligence". I'm not worried about what you think. If anything you thinking I'm stupid just makes me more correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: https://www.afa.net/the-stand/culture/2020/04/shutdowns-were-pointless-all-along/?fbclid=IwAR01BZvO9OhxRXHlAbbNAkd_ig--zLANvwm8PRODq2Qcq59ByaeDQLlHOKg#.XpnwkkhQ_ZA.facebook 9 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: https://www.afa.net/the-stand/culture/2020/04/shutdowns-were-pointless-all-along/?fbclid=IwAR01BZvO9OhxRXHlAbbNAkd_ig--zLANvwm8PRODq2Qcq59ByaeDQLlHOKg#.XpnwkkhQ_ZA.facebook Interesting reads Steve- but how can anyone state- the Fatality rate equals seasonal flu. It's an economic disaster alright. Don't need a doctorate in economics to figure that out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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