Westside Steve Posted August 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 But negotiate with the Taliban or not? Seems that theme has been raised here before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 19 hours ago, Westside Steve said: That was all I expected you to say but you launched into a Trump tirade. WSS Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling? Hmmm? Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is. BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. 1 minute ago, Westside Steve said: In fairness I was all for this move. I would have supported it had Trump done it as well. Nobody knew it would fuck up this badly. There are plenty of other horrible things that he Tex and woodpecker are responsible for but... WSS Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks. This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 Afghanistan crisis: US intelligence warned that troops would capitulate to the Taliban in July | Daily Mail Online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, hoorta said: Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling? Hmmm? Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is. BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks. that's how it's always been This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. I don't know if it's worth going back to check but I hated the Afghanistan war under Bush hated it worse when Obama escalated it. Make of that what you will. But the fact that Cal obsesses over Obama is your reasoning for doing it now over Trump? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, hoorta said: Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling? Hmmm? Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is. BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks. This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. BULLSHIT! This is why I rarely read your nonsense. Biden could have reversed course his FIRST day in office like he did on everything else Trump did FOR our nation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 3 hours ago, hoorta said: Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling? Hmmm? Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is. BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks. This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. White House makes admission about US weapons in the hands of Taliban killers Politics Disturbing video shows moment terrorists beat innocent Afghans See what your vote did Hoorta? BOLSTERING EVIL Your TDS in action shame on you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Axe said: BULLSHIT! This is why I rarely read your nonsense. Biden could have reversed course his FIRST day in office like he did on everything else Trump did FOR our nation. At some point Hoorta needs to stop blaming Trump for all of Biden's mistakes but his TDS is so deep and twisted he can't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 3 hours ago, hoorta said: Just sayin' Steve.. Who negotiated the deal with the Taliban that started this shit show rolling? Hmmm? Funny how the little factoid touting that magically disappeared off the RNC's website. Yup- a serious failure to not plan for a "worst case scenario" which is what this is. BTW- I beat JABF to the punch, saying around $20 billion of US weaponry is now in Taliban hands. Definitely not good. Exactly. However- the short attention spans around here are only focused on one thing... The events of the last couple weeks. This didn't happen in a vacuum- it was 20 years in the making. I'm surprised Cal hasn't cranked up an Obama rant yet- he was another of the preceding presidents that deserves plenty of blame. Fiddling while the world burns 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 On 8/16/2021 at 2:35 PM, calfoxwc said: are Hoorta, Tex and woodpecker dancing around laughing about this too? Their votes against Pres Trump and America First.... helped make this horror happen You are aware are you not that trumpy's plan was full withdrawal by last April. Do you really think it would have been any bit different? And concerning the whole endeavor, I see it as very little different from the Vietnam fiasco. A blind man could see it coming for years and both sides were involved up to the assholes whenever they were in power. We learned zero from Vietnam and even less from what happened to the Russians in Afghanistan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: You are aware are you not that trumpy's plan was full withdrawal by last April. Do you really think it would have been any bit different? And concerning the whole endeavor, I see it as very little different from the Vietnam fiasco. A blind man could see it coming for years and both sides were involved up to the assholes whenever they were in power. We learned zero from Vietnam and even less from what happened to the Russians in Afghanistan. Give me a break. It would hve been a lot different. Biden was told by the intelligence that it would be best to withdraw during the winter. Not the summer fighting months. But the demented old fuck didn't listen. Listen to the Generals and experts on the matter, including democratic appointed ambassadors to Afghan. They know Biden is a a fucking dipshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: You are aware are you not that trumpy's plan was full withdrawal by last April. Do you really think it would have been any bit different? And concerning the whole endeavor, I see it as very little different from the Vietnam fiasco. A blind man could see it coming for years and both sides were involved up to the assholes whenever they were in power. We learned zero from Vietnam and even less from what happened to the Russians in Afghanistan. Fiddling while the world burns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 18 hours ago, hoorta said: ^Full blown BDS- 400,000 Americans dead from covid, masks optional "it's just going to go away". X 26. THE BLOOD HAS STAINED TRUMP'S HANDS. Do me a favor, and either inject some disinfectant or ram a UV light up your ass. Pompeo has to be dumber than a box of rocks if he thought for 1\2 a second the Taliban would actually negotiate in good faith. Your hero started the ball rolling for this disaster. FACT. And- as I said before- if the Afghan "army" can't defend their own country- well, you saw what's happened. The Afghan government wisely took the first plane out of Dodge- they knew they were dead meat. You know- the government the Taliban told Pompeo that they'd negotiate with when they took over? We'll get as many folks out of the country as we can. 14 hours ago, Westside Steve said: I'm surprised it took this long. Original deal negotiated was pull out by May 1. OBiden nixed that, and changed the deadline to September 12 (interesting date) - no negotiations. In short, OBiden broke the deal, and totally mismanaged the pullout even during the "grace" period that was given between May 1 and now. Let's even forget about all - it's looking like something more is going on than all of that. Sure we're going to see a lot more going on about this going forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vambo Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 TRUSTING TERRORISTS Biden admin relying on Taliban to help evacuate thousands of Americans trapped in Afghanistan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Politics Biden admin scrambles to keep US dollars out of the Taliban’s hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Give me a break. It would hve been a lot different. Biden was told by the intelligence that it would be best to withdraw during the winter. Not the summer fighting months. But the demented old fuck didn't listen. Listen to the Generals and experts on the matter, including democratic appointed ambassadors to Afghan. They know Biden is a a fucking dipshit. Last I knew April is not in the winter. That was trumpy's plan for complete withdrawal. Note that I did not say Biden's withdrawal plan was any good. I only said that trumpy would have been no better. PS-and you have all forgotten his abandonment of the Kurds in Syria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vambo Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 4 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Last I knew April is not in the winter. That was trumpy's plan for complete withdrawal. Note that I did not say Biden's withdrawal plan was any good. I only said that trumpy would have been no better. PS-and you have all forgotten his abandonment of the Kurds in Syria. DISTURBING DISCOVERY Heartbreaking find in landing gear after hundreds desperately clung to US plane U.S. Border Patrol agents target of attacks from Mexico; one agent shot at 20 times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vambo Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 'THE SITUATION IS DIRE' US reportedly has no plans to evacuate Americans outside Kabul; Sullivan makes promise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Politics 'Turn this money off': Biden wants to pour billions of dollars more into Afghanistan after disastrous withdrawal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vambo Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Media24 mins ago Washington Post fact check accuses Biden of inflating size of Afghanistan military: 'Bogus' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 On July 8, President Biden said a Taliban takeover was “highly unlikely,” adding that there would be “no circumstance [where] you see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy.” And even if the Taliban did eventually take over, said U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken in June, it won’t “be something that happens from a Friday to a Monday.” But that’s exactly what did happen. The Afghan troops that the U.S. trained, bribed, and supported for 20 years didn’t fight to the last man… They simply dropped their guns and joined the other side. In all of military history, we can’t think of any defeat so quick… so complete… or so ignominious. Biden and Blinken were advised and informed by 17 different “intelligence” agencies – the CIA, the NSA, etc. – with billion-dollar budgets, thousands of big-head analysts, and all the latest spy technology. How could they all be so incompetent? Journalist Glenn Greenwald reports that the Pentagon had long reported that the Afghan army, which outnumbered the Taliban 4-to-1, was both incompetent and unreliable. They didn’t make a “mistake,” said Greenwald, interviewed on Fox News by Tucker Carlson this morning, “they lied.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 20 hours ago, Vambo said: White House makes admission about US weapons in the hands of Taliban killers See what your vote did Hoorta? BOLSTERING EVIL Your TDS in action shame on you! My, my things a little slow in the flame baiting\ personal attack world today? However, you have no fucking idea that if your Orange Messiah was in power- it would have been any different. Yeah- he would have nuked 'em... 🤣 Go hug your Trump poster. He (sort of) went away. Too bad the virus he said 26 times was going to- didn't. I agree with Tex- as we're both old enough to remember it. We learned nothing from Viet Nam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 40 minutes ago, hoorta said: My, my things a little slow in the flame baiting\ personal attack world today? However, you have no fucking idea that if your Orange Messiah was in power- it would have been any different. Yeah- he would have nuked 'em... 🤣 Go hug your Trump poster. He (sort of) went away. Too bad the virus he said 26 times was going to- didn't. I agree with Tex- as we're both old enough to remember it. We learned nothing from Viet Nam. ‘CHALLENGING’ US officials issue private warning to Biden about troop withdrawal deadline Trump is your Messiah you think and talk about him all the time, you love you some Trump! World Taliban violently break up protest in eastern Afghanistan, video shows See what your vote caused! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 The younger educated Afghans in Kabul will not want to be run by the Goat fucker Taliban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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