Kvoethe Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Cysko Kid said: Nick Foles is the best looking official free agent at this time Big dick nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Kvoethe said: Big dick nick Just to be clear id greatly prefer Foles to what we have right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 55 minutes ago, The Cysko Kid said: Tom Brady is a free agent. Just saying. If I were Berry I'd ask myself, What would it hurt to try ringing him up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Always Ghoolie Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 Something stinks. 1) Watson had a rotator cuff injury o n his right shoulder, but it healed. 2) In his first game back he sustained a broken bone in the same shoulder? Translation: He had a broken bone all along. Sorry, but lightening doesn't strike twice. What a sad mess this is for Browns fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernieSuperBowl2 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Tom Brady should do the right thing and get the Browns a Super Bowl win in honor of Jim Brown. Brady would look good in orange 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP1 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 So many have waxed so poetically about the shit sandwich that has been served to the Browns - players, coaches and fans. I've nothing further to add, but will quote on of the great intellects of our time, Daniel Simpson Day... "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 If America had to go to war led by general PJ Walker and admiral DTR I don't like our chances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 All I know is if we get swept by the Steelers again I don't know if I can bear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted November 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 5 hours ago, hoorta said: Checking shoulder anatomy, the glenoid bone is what your shoulder socket sits in... "Displaced" means it's not just fractured, but the parts of the bone aren't together anymore. I'm not going to Buy Berry's rose colored glasses assessment either. Shit, you can get surgical scarring, adhesions, or early onset arthriti So ? has a qb ever needed this kind of surgery before ? and if so how did he play afterwards ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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syd Posted November 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Ghoolie Always Ghoolie said: Something stinks. 1) Watson had a rotator cuff injury o n his right shoulder, but it healed. 2) In his first game back he sustained a broken bone in the same shoulder? Translation: He had a broken bone all along. Sorry, but lightening doesn't strike twice. What a sad mess this is for Browns fans I saw where they are trying to say it had nothing to do with the first injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted November 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 bet we could get baker back for a 3rd pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Just now, syd said: bet we could get baker back for a 3rd pick Trade deadline is over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted November 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Just now, The Cysko Kid said: Trade deadline is over ah shit thats right. sure would have made some ones day tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 24 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: That's good ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Ghoolie Always Ghoolie said: Something stinks. 1) Watson had a rotator cuff injury o n his right shoulder, but it healed. 2) In his first game back he sustained a broken bone in the same shoulder? Translation: He had a broken bone all along. Sorry, but lightening doesn't strike twice. What a sad mess this is for Browns fans You're at higher risk for injury if you are already injured. There's inflammation and your body compensates in ways that fuck with good mechanics to avoid pain. That said, fracturing the glenoid is incredibly rare and takes a tremendous amount of force where your shoulder is typically getting pushed toward the torso. I personally don't think they're related or that a smaller fracture was hidden from Vegas. Given how hard he was hit, I wouldn't be surprised if this would've caused a glenoid fracture if he was completely healthy. I think this is the hit that caused the injury. Matches the mechanism of injury for a glenoid fracture. Hopefully this doesn't end his throwing career. He's probably going to need it nailed in place. I don't even know of a single case of this happening to another QB. Here's some technical reading on case studies of elite rugby/soccer athletes with the injury. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6887832/ I can't find a single article about a pro/college quarterback or baseball player with this injury. That's how rare it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Richiswhere said: Not sure what the big deal is Watson's stats are almost exactly the same as last year. Here's Watson's stats over his last three complete games: 66 completions, 97 attempts (68.0% comp %), 721 yards, 5 touchdowns, 1 interception, 7.4 yds/att and 15 rushes for 75 yards. Even injured, he was trending up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Almost 12 hours I don’t feel any better….another 24 hours I might get out of denial and start to optimistically assess. DTR can’t be this bad…not a lot film on him at this level and he had 50 starts at UCLA…Stef is in the lab watching Chip Kelly offenses. We got a defense, run game and special teams. Let me be bipolar for a second…How about Tom Brady becomes the GOAT of All GOATs of everything and plays a slightly better version of Trent Dilfer and leads the way to a SB victory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, BernieSuperBowl2 said: Tom Brady should do the right thing and get the Browns a Super Bowl win in honor of Jim Brown. Brady would look good in orange I didn’t see this before I posted but I’m for it. Even if he went to that school prior to the pros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, SdBacker80 said: Let me be bipolar for a second…How about Tom Brady becomes the GOAT of All GOATs of everything and plays a slightly better version of Trent Dilfer and leads the way to a SB victory? I'll take one any way we can get one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Can we at least pound the shit out of Pittsburgh before we go down in flames!?! We owe those fuckers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Always Ghoolie Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, VaporTrail said: You're at higher risk for injury if you are already injured. There's inflammation and your body compensates in ways that fuck with good mechanics to avoid pain. That said, fracturing the glenoid is incredibly rare and takes a tremendous amount of force where your shoulder is typically getting pushed toward the torso. I personally don't think they're related or that a smaller fracture was hidden from Vegas. Given how hard he was hit, I wouldn't be surprised if this would've caused a glenoid fracture if he was completely healthy. I think this is the hit that caused the injury. Matches the mechanism of injury for a glenoid fracture. Hopefully this doesn't end his throwing career. He's probably going to need it nailed in place. I don't even know of a single case of this happening to another QB. Here's some technical reading on case studies of elite rugby/soccer athletes with the injury. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6887832/ I can't find a single article about a pro/college quarterback or baseball player with this injury. That's how rare it is. No cigar. You are even contradicting yourself. If the previous condition, as you say, made Watson more likely to get a worse injury, why the fuck was the 230 million dollar man allowed to play? Having a strained weakened joint or was it a hit? Let me give you the official diagnosis. It is called BULLSHIT. My best friend is an accomplished orthopedic surgeon..He calls this bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Berry is too arrogant to get anybody, unless Haslam twists his arm I bet he leaves stefanski with DTR, Walker, and a third practice squad nobody. Cam Newton, Matt Ryan, Nick Foles are probably the best realistic options. McCoy has a noodle arm but doesn’t turn the ball over which may be enough too. But again, I suspect Berry wants to prove to everybody he found a diamond in DTR. Which I hope is true, I’m just doubtful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Browns GM Andrew Berry says team will add QB 'in the near future' Browns GM Andrew Berry says team will add QB 'in the near future' (msn.com) Browns fans were blindsided Wednesday morning when they learned that quarterback Deshaun Watson will undergo shoulder surgery and miss the remainder of the 2023 season. After the best game of his Browns tenure and fans believing the team is a contender, and it all changed in the blink of an eye. Speaking with the media following the announcement, general manager Andrew Berry said the team will add another QB in the near future. The biggest question will be are they adding a new player to be the starter or will it just be a depth move? The Browns should look for a veteran starter. With the way the defense is playing and the pieces around the quarterback, average play is all this team needs. They cannot move forward with P.J. Walker as the starter and think they will be successful. There are not a ton of options out there that make sense, and any addition likely won’t be ready to play this week. It’s not time to punt on the season just yet but a move absolutely must be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Ghoolie Always Ghoolie said: No cigar. You are even contradicting yourself. If the previous condition, as you say, made Watson more likely to get a worse injury, why the fuck was the 230 million dollar man allowed to play? Having a strained weakened joint or was it a hit? Let me give you the official diagnosis. It is called BULLSHIT. My best friend is an accomplished orthopedic surgeon..He calls this bullshit. No contradiction, chief. Just because you're more likely to get injured, doesn't mean you're more likely to get that specific injury. The rotator cuff is soft tissue and the glenoid is a bone. You can get a cuff tear from overuse, landing on it funny, getting hit while throwing, and a thousand other ways. The only way to get a glenoid fracture is with a shit ton of force. Why was the $230 million dollar QB allowed to play? Because good ol Jimmy didn't pay him $230 mil to ride the pine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 I was at work when I read the news on Twitter. Sware to God I almost stroked out. So close to making a serious playoff run........evan without Nick Chubb...... I don't know what we as Browns fans collectively did to deserve this......but the Football Gods can go fuck themselves. No fanbase deserves this. Other teams players commit rape, murder, assault........ And win at least 1 Super Bowl. Browns........nope 10 more years of purgatory...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korsou Dawg Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 This is still where I am at 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie, going tot dogs Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 10 hours ago, AP1 said: So many have waxed so poetically about the shit sandwich that has been served to the Browns - players, coaches and fans. I've nothing further to add, but will quote on of the great intellects of our time, Daniel Simpson Day... "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" Just pissed myself reading that, no wonder I've never heard of this Simpson Day fellow. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Yorkie, going tot dogs said: Just pissed myself reading that, no wonder I've never heard of this Simpson Day fellow. It’s a line from the movie Animal House. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Orion said: I'll take one any way we can get one! Me too my man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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