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  1. 3 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

    Don't worry, when President Biden takes over in January, we will  again be part of the world community instead of the laughing stock.

    I never bought into Obama's apology tour around the world as somehow making us more respected. It is not that we are a perfect country but we have done so much for the world that never gets appreciated and all those other countries have their own skeletons in their closets.

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  2. Just now, DieHardBrownsFan said:

    Bottom line is Trump failed to take his advisors advice (again) back in January, and we paid the price.

    What advice was he getting from his top CDC adviser?

    Fauci v. Fauci: How America’s infectious disease chief evolved his pandemic advice

    Before he embraced social distancing, Fauci recommended cruises, and dismissed a ban on restaurants as ‘overkill,’ review of comments shows.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-v-fauci-how-americas-infectious-disease-chief-evolved-his

  3. 5 hours ago, hoorta said:

    And Red State, and Fox News....   

    And FYI the MAGAs tend the Rose Garden- but don't buy him booze because IIRC Trumpie doesn't drink. But the MAGAs do kiss his ass, and 110% buy into all his crap. For the record, Orange Man only gets a B- for his handling of the pandemic, not an A++++++ like some lemmings.  

    To the extent the righties here would immediately dismiss and laugh at any one who would dare fact check Trump's press conferences. 

    Speaking of Red State they not only did not support Trump in 2016 but specifically dis-invited Trump to their gathering in 2015 where they had other republican presidential candidates speak. That they support Trump today has more to do with supporting how he has governed as president and not some blind MAGA following.

  4. 2 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

    LOL

    Oh ye of little faith....

    Actually Cal it is sad that people can hate Trump so much they root for a drug to fail just because Trump promoted it. 

    "The most hated topic for mainstream media is President Trump. The second most hated topic is Hydroxychloroquine, the malaria drug that many, including the President, believe may be a valid and potent treatment against the coronavirus. They hate the second because they hate the first, and President Trump has been touting results of the drug’s use for weeks."

  5. 1 hour ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

    Where did you get the 2/3 of doctors polled world wide from?  I doubt that.  

     

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/13/how-false-hope-spread-about-hydroxychloroquine-its-consequences/

    Here you go..............

    Two out of three doctors would take Hydroxychloroquine if they contracted the coronavirus

    A new survey of 1200 doctors indicated that 65% of them would prescribe the drug to family members if they contracted the disease, and 67% said they would take the drug themselves. One of the mantras from the left since the coronavirus prompted the current crisis is, “listen to doctors.” Well, here we go…

    https://noqreport.com/2020/04/09/two-out-of-three-doctors-would-take-hydroxychloroquine-if-they-contracted-the-coronavirus/

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  6. I don't take this virus lightly as it is much more contagious than regular flu and more severe. In a perfect world we could all take months off work and starve the virus but what kind of country would we have? If we let the virus put us in another great depression how much more devastating would that be compared to the virus? These are tough decisions but the obvious correct decision is we cannot let the cure become worse than the disease. It seems to me like once we end the shelter in place we will start the process all over again of spreading the virus but what other choice do we have? At this point maybe try to quarantine and protect the most vulnerable in society?

    Speaking of protecting the most vulnerable in society I read of a man dying of covid19 locally who had Downs Syndrome and was working in a grocery store. Our grocery stores are likely one of the worst places to pick up the virus if you are not careful. I question if this man should have been working at a grocery store? Was he aware of the precautions he needed to take working there? It makes me sad thinking about it as maybe someone should have gotten him off that job.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2020/03/27/shoppers-beware-grocery-stores-have-heightened-risks-covid-19/2914069001/

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  7. When I go to the grocery store, pharmacy etc from now on I will take my shoes off outside before coming into the house and make sure I disinfect the soles. As we learn more how contagious this virus is there seems to be evidence that it can be tracked from the floor to our shoe soles. I have heard of a number of people now who contacted covid19 and said they were doing all the things the CDC recommended and the only place they went was to the grocery store or pharmacy. Maybe it did come in through the bottom of their shoes?  I figure it wouldn't hurt anyway although the distance in the air this virus seems to travel is well beyond the 6 feet the CDC has recommended.

     

    https://www.foxnews.com/science/cdc-study-coronavirus-can-travel-13-feet-in-air-live-on-shoes

  8. 15 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

    I think the medical community is desperate for a cure and they will not let it slide. Whatever works best will be insisted upon by the front line docs.

     

    Also Tex 2/3rds of doctors polled world wide said they recommended hydroxychloroquine as the most effective treatment for covid19. It seems obvious that would be where we should be doing the clinical studies but those studies will not be done by big pharmaceutical companies because there is no money in it for them.

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  9. 1 minute ago, TexasAg1969 said:

    I think the medical community is desperate for a cure and they will not let it slide. Whatever works best will be insisted upon by the front line docs.

     

    I remember before my father passed away he was not happy with his family doctor always prescribing higher priced medications for him and not giving him any choice with generic cheaper meds....until he found out this doctor was heavily invested in the big pharmaceuticals and it was in his own personal interest to push the higher priced drugs.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterubel/2017/10/16/physicians-for-sale-doctors-with-strong-financial-ties-to-pharma-prescribe-overly-expensive-drugs/#25d8fb142a3e

     

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  10. 11 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

    I understand the skepticism OBF, but the N.E. Journal of Medicine is renowned for it's rigorous examination of articles before publication. You can't just throw something their way and expect immediate endorsement without that happening. Not how they operate.

    "Remdesivir was developed by California-based biotech Gilead Sciences, which funded the study."

    There is an old saying of follow the money. The same company funding the study is the company who developed Remdesivir and likely has the patent and stands to make huge amounts of money if it ends up being the "go to" drug for covid19.

    But again Tex what if hydroxychloroquine is the better alternative but there is no money in it for big pharmacy? Will the truth be told? I am skeptical. 

  11. 5 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

    From "Morning Brew" "

    Gilead Drug Shows Promise

    Remember this word: Remdesivir.

    Sure, it’s a bit of a mouthful. But the drug is perhaps the leader in the race to treat COVID-19. 

    More supporting evidence came in a study released Friday in the New England Journal of Medicine, the Philips Exeter of medical publications. Remdesivir was developed by California-based biotech Gilead Sciences, which funded the study. 

    Here’s what was promising:

    • 68% of patients critically ill with COVID-19 improved after being treated with remdesivir. 
    • Lead author Dr. Jonathan Grein: “We cannot draw definitive conclusions from these data, but the observations from this group of hospitalized patients who received remdesivir are hopeful.”

    Why can’t we draw definitive conclusions? This study was very small and also didn’t have the all-important “control group” to compare results against. However, that is happening in large-scale, randomized clinical trials currently underway across the globe. 

    Bottom line: Some experts don’t think life can go back to normal (and even then it wouldn’t be normal normal) without an effective coronavirus treatment

    I am all for testing and finding the best treatment for covid19 but I am skeptical of big pharmacy. We have a drug right now with a whole lot of "anecdotal" evidence of being effective against covid 19 (hydroxychloroquine) so that would be my first choice to run clinical studies to test. 

    The problem though this is a cheap easily mfg drug with an expired patent and the money wouldn't be there for the big pharmaceutical companies so of course they will want to find another more expensive profitable drug to replace it.

    Again if they find something better that is great but what if they find HDQ is the best option? Will they push it aside to promote a less effective more profitable drug? In my older age I am more skeptical today than ever about what goes on behind the scenes and kept from public view.

  12. Right after the world found out about the coronavirus spread in Wuhan, China's dictator put out a decree that all viral labs in China needed to tighten security procedures. Now we find out the wet markets in China are back in business. I think China's actions here speak for itself. They know this virus escaped from their viral lab and did not come from their wet markets (don't get me wrong they should shut down their wet markets anyway for a number of reasons).

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