Jump to content
THE BROWNS BOARD

OldBrownsFan

REGISTERED
 View Profile  See their activity

  • Posts

    11,483

  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    166

 Content Type 

Posts posted by OldBrownsFan

  2. Early Signs that Italy May be Bending Their Curve...

    in POLITICAL DISCUSSION

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

     

    I would not leave the decision soley to the medical experts. I'm  sure sound medical advice would be to lockdown the country for months but will that put us in a Great Depression? At one point will jobs be lost forever and people currently laid off will have no jobs to come back to? I would rather medical experts and economy experts work together on this. Also the  hydrochloroquine and z-pac does seem to be effective on those with the severe symptoms of the virus and as weeks go by I think we will see some good results.

  3. Dewine has done a great job!!

    in POLITICAL DISCUSSION

    Posted

    7 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

    First of all I am hoping he's not acting out of anything except what he believes is right. Personally I think he, and others, are overreacting and the overall reaction from himself and others has caused an unnecessary negative impact on the country.

    Still I'm more blame the sensationalism of the news media for keeping the panic stirredp than him.

    WSS

    I think DeWine is acting out of what he believes is right. On that part I don't question his motives.

    I question the motives of others at times like Cuomo of New York blaming Trump for lack of ventilators when He knows very well our govt can't immediately ship him 30,000 ventilators we don't currently have. I was glad to see Trump call him out for his decision a few years ago not to buy more ventilators so he has no business blaming others for a lack of ventilators.

    • Upvote 1

  4. Dewine has done a great job!!

    in POLITICAL DISCUSSION

    Posted

    I was never a fan of DeWine's either but he has been proven to be right on his coronavirus response. I wasn't sure about what seemed to be a quick decision to close dine in restaurants on a "guesstimate" we had 100,000 people with the coronavirus already in Ohio. Now that we are testing we are finding there were many more people infected in Ohio than most of us realized. So good job Dewine for taking quick action.

  5. Bottom line on the virus

    in POLITICAL DISCUSSION

    Posted

    17 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

    Great.  So I'm eating dinner and I feel something break off in my mouth, and half my fucking tooth broke off on the left side.  Probably an old filling from the good old USN.  Hurts like a bitch.

    For the pain 2 extra strength 500 mg tylenols and 3 200mg ibuprofren is equal to darvocet without narcotics. Our family doctor told my wife that.

  7. Coronavirus humor

    in POLITICAL DISCUSSION

    Posted

    49 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

    I was exposed to Asbestos many times.  My father worked in Furnace and AC repair and used to drag me with him when he was on call.  Also in the Navy while my ship was inthe yards in Long Beach.

    My ship was also in drydock in Long Beach when  I reported in 1975.

    Just so happened they were filming the old tv series McMillan and Wife the day I reported. I thought it was odd when the bus pulled in the sign said San Francisco Naval Station instead of Long Beach. I got off the bus and was walking to the reporting station when I saw this tall Admiral with lots of gold on his uniform walking towards me. I gave him a good boot camp salute and he looked down at me and gave me a scowl. When I turned the corner I saw all the cameras and realized that was Rock Hudson I had saluted. This was before anyone had heard about AIDS. 

     

    • Thanks 1

  12. What’s in Democrats’ coronavirus bill? Arts funding, union help and more

    in POLITICAL DISCUSSION

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Bob806 said:

    Things are getting pretty deep, wow.

    I think you can have the debate about at what cost do you fight this virus versus the economic costs. The human costs could be worse if by fighting the virus we end up in a Great Depression. 

    I live in a small rural County. Already seeing big lay offs. They should be temporary  but you have to be concerned.

    https://www.sidneydailynews.com/news/business/174516/norcold-lays-off-345-employees

  14. The Bigger The Government, The More Incompetent

    in POLITICAL DISCUSSION

    Posted

    24 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

    I have a different saying than your title, OBF...

    Republicans always say government is bad and every time they are in power they prove it.

    The republicans seem to be more concerned  about the national debt when out of power than when in power.

    I like Reagans' saying myself about the nine most terrifying words in the English language.."I'm from the government and I"m  here to help"

     

    As Governors always point out, they have to balance budgets... so the only way they can grow their budget is to attract new investment, new business to their state. It' the same in red states as it is blue. So investing in ventilator stockpiles loses to incentivizing a new plant every time.

    Even the author of your linked OP article ... who is not the author of your above "quoted" post... said he would not blame Cuomo for making the choice he did. Not sure if that eluded you or not.

    Not at all. I was talking about playing the blame game. It is easy to second guess. Also some of those doing the second guessing have themselves already been proved wrong on other things so why should we believe they would do any better now?

    States cut deals to attract businesses all the time. Sometimes they work... sometimes not. Solarcity Buffalo did not and it appears the reasons are complicated, but it seems that Panasonic, who was to make photocells on site, was never able to be price competitive with Chinese manufacturers. Then without Panasonic on site bearing a share of the site costs, the economics of Solarcity's operation suffered during a time when it was taken under Tesla and for a while threatened that company as a whole.

    Cuomo made the decision to ration ventilators if we had a flu pandemic instead of buying what was needed so if we are going to play the blame game he will need to explain his decision now that we have a flu pandemic.

     

    One last point... and it is a distinction and a difference. Criticism of Trump is not over the current ventilator shortfall per se... same for masks and gowns. The criticism is for not effectively reacting fast enough when the shortfalls became apparent to all weeks ago.

    And you are making my point  it is easy to second guess. Likely our CDC was saying they were ready during this period  when they weren't.

     

    And effectively is the key... actions have to be timely and coordinated. They haven't been.

    Cases in point...

    1. The Federal gov't ordered respirators, masks, etc. Governors complained needed respirators, masks, etc. Trump told Governors they needed to order their own. The Governors said they had been, but were being outbid by the Federal gov't.
    2. Trump has trumpeted his signing of the Defense Production Act, but has yet to give direction to a single company to shift production to a needed item.

    The Fed gov't has a role here to direct the production of and the distribution of these critical goods... and it is not doing so.

    If Trump wants to be considered a Wartime President, he nedds to start acting like one and quit dithering over being perceived as a socialist who is nationalizing private industries.

    Directing needed production is not nationalizing... the gov't taking stock in public businesses is nationalizing... and that's coming soon, but is for a different thread.

     

  15. Coronavirus humor

    in POLITICAL DISCUSSION

    Posted

    38 minutes ago, Vambo said:

    2020-03-24_111258.jpg

    I've been dealing with that but I tell Mrs. OBF that we have stay at home orders in place and I shouldn't be going to Lowes or Home Depot right now. 

    Seriously though on one project I did a number of years ago I put new flooring down and removed some old tiles under the carpet. I didn't think anything about it until I found out later that these older tiles were made with asbestos. I had no idea. 

  16. The Bigger The Government, The More Incompetent

    in POLITICAL DISCUSSION

    Posted

    I thought also about the blame game going on..is it Trump's fault we don't have enough ventilators or N95 masks?

    Landing in the hospital on a ventilator is bad. But worse is being told you can’t have one. …learning that the state’s stockpile of medical equipment had 16,000 fewer ventilators than New Yorkers would need in a severe pandemic, Gov. Andrew Cuomo came to a fork in the road in 2015. He could have chosen to buy more ventilators. Instead, he asked his health commissioner, Howard Zucker to assemble a task force and draft rules for rationing the ventilators they already had. …Cuomo could have purchased the additional 16,000 needed ventilators for $36,000 apiece or a total of $576 million in 2015. It’s a lot of money but less than the $750 million he threw away on a boondoggle “Buffalo Billion” solar panel factory.

  17. One Ventilator for 9 Patients

    in POLITICAL DISCUSSION

    Posted

    5 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

    Bennett?

     

    So nine hoses on one machine... why not 12? or 15?

    Cross contamination... differing lung capacities... differing lung elasticities... differing degrees of lungs being compromised by pneumonia...

    Probably the reason the innovator himself said...

    In other words the modification is in the same category as drug trails on the critically ill.

    I am really frugal. I was thinking about one deluxe ventilator and just running hoses everywhere...🙂

    Expanding the capacity of one ventilator though is something I think to consider in an emergency where there are no other good options,

  19. Early Signs that Italy May be Bending Their Curve...

    in POLITICAL DISCUSSION

    Posted

    21 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

     

    While I still have it. You just have to make the next step logical from stopping social isolation early to full blown Italy in a NY minute like our Lt.Gov. did. And Fox is ready to help them along.😂

    Trump will get hammered by the haters no matter what decision he makes...either one that may lead the country to another Great Depression or another where the MSM, and the CNN's and MSNBC's are going to magnify every flu death and blame Trump for ending the isolation restrictions too early.

  20. ObaMao commie regime - used up 3/4 of the N95 masks, never replaced-

    in POLITICAL DISCUSSION

    Posted

    1 minute ago, Gorka said:

    No, in the thread title read "Obamao Regime" ...so it wasn't directly blaming Obama.

    Then consider this from the article:

    Critics of the current administration have blamed President Donald Trump for the shortage of respirator masks that has left the country looking for ways to mass-produce them in time to fight the spread of the coronavirus.

    That's the kind of shit I'm talking about.  You can't deny the egregious attempts made to throw this guy out of office. Whatever it takes.

     

     

    90599534_205723917320444_898169900311248896_n.jpg

  21. Early Signs that Italy May be Bending Their Curve...

    in POLITICAL DISCUSSION

    Posted

    1 minute ago, TexasAg1969 said:

    Damn and just when our Texas Lt. Gov. decided we can sacrifice everybody's grandparent on Fox News who as usual supports the dummy in charge. Best reaction I saw to this latest quackery from the Great Orange Pumpkin & this supportive nut in our Texas government was this obvious tongue in cheek one. "Hello it’s me a principled conservative and I am here to say why wait for grandma and grandpa to die in the pandemic when we can start hunting them for sport today." Hot damn bring 'em on. We can start a hunting TV game show hosted by the Orangeman with each of us old farts getting to bring our on guns to the game. I'm all in!😂

    https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/dan-patrick-sacrifice-grandparents-045514660.html

    Tex it is too bad that Trump lives in your head rent free....😄

  24. Bottom line on the virus

    in POLITICAL DISCUSSION

    Posted

    1 hour ago, tiamat63 said:

     

    I'll see your one man and raise you a couple.

     

    https://www.12news.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/man-dies-after-self-medication-to-prevent-covid-19/75-3c832083-c740-41c4-9360-286391e1d095

    I am sorry to see this happen but the fault is on this man himself. I know you are not blaming Trump here but looks like some others are and this man made tbis fatal mistake on his own.

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/chloroquine-fatal-idiocy-is-not-trump-fault/

     

×
×
  • Create New...