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If I had to guess, he sold his name a likeness and wasn't an actual money partner. He could be hurt financially in that he won't collect any more royalties, if royalties were to be paid and it wasn't structured as a one time payout for the rights. He could also be hurt if the payout was structured over X amount of years, but probably not much now that it would go to bankruptcy.

I am just going by the article. Your 2nd point doesn't matter. Our guys need to act professional and leave things clean. I agree with Nick to an extent. Were coaches on the flight or did they fly another private jet with the owners? It seems to me someone needed to take control of the cub scouts and act as den mother.

It's sad our guys don't even know how to act. No Greenbriar trip next year, which had to coast the team several hundred thousand all said. If I was Haslam, next year it's some crappy HS football field in Iowa, motel 6 accommodations, and rented school bus transport. If you act like pigs, you get treated like pigs.

haha...well, when someone doesn't seem to understand, I feel the need to clarify. If you don't need the clarification, just move on. That is what I do. It saves time.

LOL....I have always said that assholes always release a lot of gas.... As for what we are paying...just look around the league. Watson is maybe the 6th highest paid QB. As for the guarantee, all those contracts are guaranteed. Teams don't release those QB's. All of them play out the full term. Even if they get hurt the team stick with them for a few years. I think you are getting fluffed up over a word and not looking at the reality of the matter. As for not liking him or Haslam, I can respect that.

[quote] maybe the only drawback is? newly drafted rookies camps would need a start date around July 1st?[/quote] Gums.. No doubt something would need to be done for rookies and possibly some select vets, such as practice squad guys and or newly signed FA vets. I wasn't trying to be all encompassing with my earlier comment. Some way or another rookies would need some extra time to be able to get the extra walk through and light practice time to have them up to speed heading in to their first camp.

I agree. I think he will stick and be a pretty solid special team addition as his career progresses.

I think the whole training camp thing needs to be re-evaluated. I'd like to see the May mandatory mini camp eliminated. Send the players on break then, then come back with the mini camp session attached to real camp. Then teams could condition players towards full camp training in a transitioned way. I think this would help eliminate soft tissue injuries. Just skip the May, start a week or so earlier in July and slowly bring the players up to contact shape.

My reply said I don't disagree. My point is if we are going to hold individual players as complete failures as Nickers suggests, in this case Watson, then we need to do that with everybody. Not just single out one player we may not like. I like all the players I previously mentioned, but if winning the Superbowl is the standard of measure, none measure up and were complete failures, again, if winning the Superbowl is the measure of success. Hopefully that makes it clear. To make it clearer, I don't think you can hold any one individual accountable for a Superbowl win. Teams are who win a Superbowl. Same with losing. You win as a team, you lose as a team. End of story.

My reply said I don't disagree. My point is if we are going to hold individual players as complete failures as Nickers suggests, in this case Watson, then we need to do that with everybody. Not just single out one player we may not like. I like all the players I previously mentioned, but if winning the Superbowl is the standard of measure, none measure up and were complete failures. Hopefully that makes it clear. To make it clearer, I don't think you can hold any one individual accountable for a Superbowl win. Teams are who win a Superbowl. Same with losing. You win as a team, you lose as a team. End of story.

My reply said I don't disagree. My point is if we are going to hold individual players as complete failures as Nickers suggests, in this case Watson, then we need to do that with everybody. Not just single out one player we may not like. I like all the players I previously mentioned, but if winning the Superbowl is the standard of measure, none measure up and were complete failures. Hopefully that makes it clear. To make it clearer, I don't think you can hold any one individual accountable for a Superbowl win. Teams are who win a Superbowl. Same with losing.

My reply said I don't disagree. My point is if we are going to hold individual players as complete failures as Nickers suggests, in this case Watson, then we need to do that with everybody. Not just single out one player we may not like. I like all the players I previously mentioned, but if winning the Superbowl is the standard of measure, none measure up and were complete failures. Hopefully that makes it clear.

I don't disagree, but if we apply Nicks criteria for Watson, it sure is. Joe Thomas didn't win us a Superbowl, or even come close for that matter. He was a player on some of the worst teams in NFL history. What did Sipe do...he didn't win a Superbowl, he's a schmuck. Bernie, he didn't win, he is just a clod. Clay Matthews, no wonder he isn't in the HOF, he didn't win anything. They should just remove his name from the HOF ballot. Those guys didn't do anything more to help us win. They are all pretty much the same as Jim Bundren or Zukaskis.

I have often said that anything but a Superbowl win is a failed season. So if we are going to stick it on individual players, all of our players since the 1964 championship team have been complete failures.

LOL...I like that. Aldi's pretty much sucks. I like my grocery store neat and clean. At Aldi's you have shit just thrown all over the place. It's like shopping in Eastern Europe.

I don't think so either. I am just saying I like the look and if they did I wouldn't have a conniption fit like some might. The only uni's I simply didn't like were the all brown uni's. Those looked bad....bad meaning bad.

He has the genes. His cousin Sammy has played in the league for a good while.

I like the all white look. I wouldn't mind if we went with the white helmet as the standard.

He was talking about logo. As for color, the colors have been changed slightly several time over the years.

Maybe so, but that isn't good enough in my book. Elliott is a marginal back-up and Togiai simply sucks. You and I could pretty much produce the same results as Togi. Nothing is nothing. The degree of which doesn't really matter. Stomped to a pulp, beaten to a pulp, does it really matter?

It looks good to me.

Jones probably has hands. How good they are is the question. I don't think he has ever caught a pass. Maybe in HS or something like that.

LOL.....he was just a hoodlum. He had talent and was given a chance and fucked it up. No surprise here.

Just doing my thing

They were. They also retired almost 25 years ago. I'd also argue that for the times, those guys were running QB's. That was a huge part of what made them so dynamic.