Tour2ma Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Deal is we switch ones and take their first 3rd rounder this year and we get 1 and 3 next year Only one of their 2016 3rds would make this a really bad deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Only one of their 2016 3rds would make this a really bad deal... I agree, unless they include a young, productive current starter like maybe Fletcher Cox? If we tip the scales, tip 'em OUR way! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Fletcher Cox I'd cry tears of joy if that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I'd cry tears of joy if that happened. Me too, but forget NEXT year's stuff (a total unknown). If we made the trade as outlined above, we'd be screwed for THIS year. I'd rather we screw them than they screw us. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Posted April 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Rumor from Philly is that a deal has been made and that the Eagles own the pick. No details yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Me too, but forget NEXT year's stuff (a total unknown). If we made the trade as outlined above, we'd be screwed for THIS year. I'd rather we screw them than they screw us. Mike Screwed by picking six picks lower and having two extra day 2 picks? Eagles aren't contending this year -Giants and Skins are the team to beat in the NFC east, and they sure as hell aren't getting a wild card. That pick is top 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I agree, unless they include a young, productive current starter like maybe Fletcher Cox? If we tip the scales, tip 'em OUR way! Some may remember I proposed going after him last year and with Kelly there, who knows? But Pederson (sp?) took Cox off the table (say what?) a couple days ago... The Philadelphia Eagles are not going to trade Fletcher Cox. But don't just take my word for it. (That's) what Eagles executive vice president of football operations Howie Roseman had to say in a media session on Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000654501/article/eagles-acquire-no-2-overall-draft-pick-from-browns For the second time in less than a week, an NFL team has made a bold move to potentially draft a franchise quarterback. The Philadelphia Eagles acquired the No. 2 overall pick of the 2016 NFL Draft in a trade with theCleveland Browns on Wednesday, the Eagles announced. Philadelphia will receive a 2017 fourth-round pick along with the No. 2 pick in exchange for five picks, including this year's and next year's first rounders. The deal puts Philadelphia in a prime position to select one of the two quarterbacks that every NFL Media draft analyst has projected as the first players set to be taken off the draft board in Chicago on April 28. Cal's Jared Goff and North Dakota State's Carson Wentz are expected to be the first two selections of the draft. For the Eagles, the move to No. 2 gives executive vice president Howie Roseman and new coach Doug Pederson a promising opportunity to mold the direction of the franchise for years to come. Last year's offseason acquisition of Sam Bradford -- a former No. 1 overall pick -- did little to bolster theEagles' offense in 2015. Until Tuesday, the Eagles were poised go with Bradford and former Kansas City Chiefs backup Chase Daniel as their quarterbacks for 2016. The Eagles-Browns trade comes six days after the Los Angeles Rams pulled off a blockbuster dealwith the Tennessee Titans to secure the draft's No. 1 overall pick. Around The NFL will have more on the trade soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Trade confirmed, on NFL.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-Eagles-agree-to-trade-of-1st-round-draft-picks-other-selections/9d0667e4-ed78-4e13-95de-067103f33f6b The Browns and Eagles agreed Wednesday to a trade of first-round picks and other selections in the 2016, 2017 and 2018 drafts. Cleveland will trade Philadelphia its 2016 first-round selection (No. 2 overall) and a conditional 2017 fourth-round selection for Philadelphia’s 2016 first-round selection (No. 8), third-round selection (No. 77), fourth-round selection (No. 100) along with the Eagles’ 2017 first-round pick and a 2018 second-round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 So thats: Eagles: #2 overall, conditional pick in 2017 Browns: #8 overall, 3rd round pick, 4th in 2016; First round pick in 2017; 2nd round pick in 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 First, Third, Fourth, 2017 First, 2017 Second. We now have picks #8 #32 #65 #77 #99 #100 #138 #141 #172 #173 #176 #223 We gave up 2,600 points, got back 2,005 points in this draft plus next year's first and second. All in on RG3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Its a nice haul from a trade perspective but if Wentz turns out to be a legit franchise QB it will be another chapter of the Browns ineptitude in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 All depends on how the QB that falls to Philly does but on the face of it no complaints with what we received when we've only moved down six spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Cant say I hate it. There will be someone there we will need at #8. and having 2 1sts next year is going to be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 The important piece is that we get a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick for moving 6 spots. I still don't like it though, but gotta give these guys a chance to show up I suppose. Number 65 and 77 are both interesting bargaining pieces to move into the early 2nd for a QB they might be targeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Side note - Sam Bradford another option now for Denver and NYJ. Or possibly the 49ers, for the comedy value of reuniting with Chip Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Its a nice haul from a trade perspective but if Wentz turns out to be a legit franchise QB it will be another chapter of the Browns ineptitude in the draft. Wentz is already gone to the Rams. Eagles just took Goff. Awesome trade if we weren't that in to Goff. Zombo --RG3 is having a good week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Shit... now we have to restart our mock again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Shit... now we have to restart our mock again. Yay! Just waiting for the bolts to move out of number three... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Wentz is already gone to the Rams. Eagles just took Goff. Awesome trade if we weren't that in to Goff. ... or vice versa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I am not looking at Ghoolie's upcoming YouTube video as promised on page 1 of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 ... or vice versa... You don't think the Rams are taking Wentz? Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 On a different note, the Eagles certainly are head-scratchers at this point. They've committed $34 between their QB's and will certainly be taking one now and tying up another $20 million or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 First, Third, Fourth, 2017 First, 2017 Second. We now have picks #8 - #32 - #65 - #77 - #99 - #100 - #138 - #141 - #172 - #173 - #176 - #223 We gave up 2,600 points, got back 2,005 points in this draft plus next year's first and second. ... or about 750 points in future value. It's like Sashi has been playing FirstPick for a couple months. My guess is that it is not over. Too much value in R2 to not package some picks and move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Wentz is already gone to the Rams. Eagles just took Goff. Awesome trade if we weren't that in to Goff. Zombo --RG3 is having a good week Whether the Eagles take Goff or the Rams do, the fact the Browns passed on either is the issue I have. Usually the Browns suck at sucking so they draft just out of reach of a top QB prospect, now they have a chance to get one and they opt to pass on it. Now matter how well you make the other parts of your team without a franchise QB you will never be better than mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 You don't think the Rams are taking Wentz? Only thing I "know" is that I would not. But most of the reporting I have seen seems to be saying Goff is the Rams' guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Another thing to think about, the Eagles gave up Kiko Alonso and Byron Maxwell to move from 13 to 8. Would you have done the trade if we ended up at 13 but with those two guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Another thing to think about, the Eagles gave up Kiko Alonso and Byron Maxwell to move from 13 to 8. Would you have done the trade if we ended up at 13 but with those two guys? Maxwell was a bust away from SEA and Kiko got hurt... again... so no, I would not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Another thing to think about, the Eagles gave up Kiko Alonso and Byron Maxwell to move from 13 to 8. Would you have done the trade if we ended up at 13 but with those two guys? No.......the Browns in this trade with the Eagles should have made Fletcher Cox a condition of the trade, give them back their 2017 1st rounder in exchange for Cox or no deal and trade with the 49ers if they wanted to drop back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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