The Gipper Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Is he going to be the man since 1999 or is he just going to be another man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, jcam222 said: I read that they have had a private firm vetting him for about a month. Since the AJ mess..just like Jimmy G..we would have had a 4 game look before any commitment..Final nail in SB coffin after Wenz than Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 minute ago, boo fagley said: Yep, its being talked about here in KC all day. Alex Smith, Josh Rosen and DeShone Kizer would be a definite upgrade. I wouldn't hate this at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Just now, boo fagley said: Let Rosen sit out a year. Its the best way instead of throwing a rookie to the wolves. I almost always believe in keeping a young player on the proverbial bench a little too long than to rush them a little too early, so I'd be fine with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 At least he’s a football guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 23 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Jesus Christ that was fast Rumor had it we've been working on it behind the scenes for a month. Jimmy is a snake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 4 year deal......has final say on all football decisions...... apart from the coach's position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, stillmotion said: Rumor had it we've been working on it behind the scenes for a month. Jimmy is a snake. It's done this way in any large company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, stillmotion said: Rumor had it we've been working on it behind the scenes for a month. Jimmy is a snake. Obviously jimmy is a snake. The FBI has proved that Just hire the right guy and go away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, jcam222 said: It's done this way in any large company. What’s that? Cheat your costumers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, Browns149 said: What’s that? Cheat your costumers? No, it's very normal to recruit and vet executive level hires prior to firing the old one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 14 minutes ago, darren15 said: 4 year deal......has final say on all football decisions...... apart from the coach's position Now Haslam needs to change the reporting structure. Hue needs to report directly to Dorsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 People are bitching about the Rooney rule. If I'm not mistaken, Mike Singletary was brought in for an interview a few weeks ago right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Just now, Harry Buffalo said: People are bitching about the Rooney rule. If I'm not mistaken, Mike Singletary was brought in for an interview a few weeks ago right? For the GM spot? That wasn't available at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Make-Believe Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 53 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Jesus Christ that was fast Not surprising considering the timing of Sashi’s firing. They already had Dorsey lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: For the GM spot? That wasn't available at the time? Here is the thing, I don't think Sashi was the GM. His title was always Vice President of football operations. He however had control of the roster. The people they had been interviewing have been for a GM position that would have been available without Sashi being fired, which was their original plan according to reports. The big reason Sashi likely got fired was most likely because Dorsey said he wouldn't take the job without control of the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I guess I'm an influencer and they listened to me when some hours ago I asked to sign him NOW, lol. Well, I'm less bitter now. I believe he's a solid GM and this doesn't leave the front office 'headless' to prepare the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Harry Buffalo said: Here is the thing, I don't think Sashi was the GM. His title was always Vice President of football operations. He however had control of the roster. The people they had been interviewing have been for a GM position that would have been available without Sashi being fired, which was their original plan according to reports. The big reason Sashi likely got fired was most likely because Dorsey said he wouldn't take the job without control of the roster. That makes a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 9 hours ago, The Gipper said: It has been rumored that there are some GM/coach "package" deals that may be out there: Pioli and Vrabel Caserio and McDaniels. Point is, these would be GMs/coaches that would be in sync. Dorsey and Hue however? Someone used the term: shotgun marriage. Or, and this might sound crazy, we keep a coach for his third year to help actually attract someone to take a job at our dumpster fire of a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Harry Buffalo said: Or, and this might sound crazy, we keep a coach for his third year to help actually attract someone to take a job at our dumpster fire of a franchise. What did I say about dumpster fireWhat did I say about dumpster fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Also from what I have read he got let go in Kansas City not because of his player selection, but because he was unorganized and was Sheet at communicating with the coaches and others in the front office. Apparently this became a big issue when his assistant GM left in 2015 who was apparently the one keeping everyone up to date on what he was doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 27 minutes ago, jcam222 said: Now Haslam needs to change the reporting structure. Hue needs to report directly to Dorsey. Yes sir! I agree 100%. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, Nero said: I guess I'm an influencer and they listened to me when some hours ago I asked to sign him NOW, lol. Well, I'm less bitter now. I believe he's a solid GM and this doesn't leave the front office 'headless' to prepare the offseason. Makes me believe the Peyton rumors can be put to bed, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 20 minutes ago, Harry Buffalo said: People are bitching about the Rooney rule. If I'm not mistaken, Mike Singletary was brought in for an interview a few weeks ago right? Yep. It was reported at that time that Singletary was NOT interviewed for the HC position. Good catch Harry! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, The Gipper said: What did I say about dumpster fireWhat did I say about dumpster fire That you love the phrase "dumpster fire" That you love the phrase "dumpster fire" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 You know what's fun? This team somehow was so secretive in their interviewing process, that no one really knows who they interviewed to the point that the guy who suggests minority canidates to teams is apparently going to bitch to the NFL because he doesn't know they interviewed Singletary. https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Bolt/Cleveland-Browns-interviewed-Mike-Singletary-last-week-110437553/Amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, darren15 said: Chris MortensenVerified account @mortreport 27s28 seconds ago More The @Browns have hired John Dorsey to become Cleveland's general manager, per league sources. He will be introduced at a press conference Friday. Count me as not surprised... 1 hour ago, jcam222 said: I read that they have had a private firm vetting him for about a month. Again, count me as not surprised... the Haslam\Hue\McCarron meeting on the field- the Owner\Hue\players meeting minus Sashi. The tea leaves were there, if we wanted to read them.... 1 hour ago, jcam222 said: It's done this way in any large company. I've heard of an organization bringing a guy in to "show him the ropes" and then firing the guy who trained him.... 35 minutes ago, Harry Buffalo said: Here is the thing, I don't think Sashi was the GM. His title was always Vice President of football operations. He however had control of the roster. The people they had been interviewing have been for a GM position that would have been available without Sashi being fired, which was their original plan according to reports. The big reason Sashi likely got fired was most likely because Dorsey said he wouldn't take the job without control of the roster. Could it have been (unlikely) they asked Sashi to go back to his old job as beancounter, and he wouldn't accept the demotion? PS I sure hope Dorsey is better than those last two "football guys" Farmer and Holmgren... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 As some of us mentioned before...if a football guy was being brought in to have control of the roster...then Sashi would be let go. In the grand scheme of things, that's the only way it could go down. Sashi would HAVE TO be let go. I, for one, am glad to see that Jimmuh had his ducks lined up properly this time. HAVE your new guy in hand before you fire. Where's Peyton Manning's new house in Cleveland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Orion said: As some of us mentioned before...if a football guy was being brought in to have control of the roster...then Sashi would be let go. In the grand scheme of things, that's the only way it could go down. Sashi would HAVE TO be let go. Where's Peyton Manning's new house in Cleveland? Yeah, in Sashi's position, personal pride would prevent him from accepting a demotion, regardless of how good he might be on the contract end. Who's next on the way out the door? My money is on DePo getting sent packing... Ha, Peyton as a "special Consultant" sure. BTW, IIRC Jim Brown has that title, and he doesn't live in Cleveland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, hoorta said: Who's next on the way out the door? My money is on DePo getting sent packing... ...could very well be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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