wargograw Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 17 hours ago, hoorta said: I'll let you expound on that one War. It's the FANS fault Jimmy doesn't know what the hell he's doing, and pushes the panic button when it blows up in his face AGAIN. He promotes a Harvard Bean Counter and hires a Baseball number cruncher to run his organization- and it produces the worst two year record in the history of the NFL. 20\20 hindsight says it turned out exactly the way you'd expect it to. Apparently Jimmy hasn't learned- and is still listening to the Homeless Guy. If you want to blame the FANS for the dumpster fire. You're pointing the blame finger in the wrong direction. A completely logical reaction to 1-31. Translate this to around 10 other NFL cities, and the owner would already have moved out of town. Yeah, we still care- when thousands of fans show up on a single digit temperature day to show- we still care enough to give the owner the collective finger. I've expounded on all of this before. 11 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: What I find interesting is the Browns fans on this board that live nowhere near Cleveland, most likely never have lived near Cleveland, seem to think they are the experts on what makes a quality Cleveland Browns fan and what is good for the city of Cleveland. What does being near Cleveland have to do for it? Do you live near Washington DC? You certainly never shut up about what's going on there... 11 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: This wasn’t a spur of the moment protest, it was actually hatched in 2016 but a surprise victory on Christmas Eve changed things. However, the Browns were able to pull off a perfect 0-16 season which cemented the aforementioned parade. Oh, by the way the Cleveland food bank reaped $14,000 in donations from the parade goers...those bastards. I'm aware of the genesis of the parade. That doesn't affect my opinion of it in the slightest. 9 hours ago, jrb12711 said: honestly your point would carry ALOT more weight if this was a one off season. youre acting though like this wasnt quite literally the worst two season stretch in NFL history as the cherry on top of the most pathetic franchise in the NFL. this parade was awesome. the browns are the embarrassment not the fans. What does us being consistently bad have to do with the legitimacy of this feaux "protest"? 6 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: It never fails to amaze me the things that people get so worked up over. If you think Browns fans who went to the parade were celebrating going 0-16, and not obviously mocking the people responsible for it, well you are a special, special individual. Why would you mock it though? How does that help anything? Hey, if my wife just had a miscarriage maybe to make myself feel better I'd go make fun of her for it! Wooh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 I'm reminded of the guy that likes his airline seat being kicked in the DirecTV ads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownB499 Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 31 minutes ago, wargograw said: Why would you mock it though? How does that help anything? Hey, my wife just had a miscarriage. Maybe to make myself feel better I'll go make fun of her for it! Wooh! Wow!!! You might need to step back for a few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, BrownB499 said: Wow!!! You might need to step back for a few days Nope, a football season and a miscarriage are a great analogy. Even for wargo, that's just... wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Nope, a football season and a miscarriage are a great analogy. Even for wargo, that's just... wow. I think you may have given him far too much credit, as that kind of stuff from him is simply par for the course...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 47 minutes ago, wargograw said: What does us being consistently bad have to do with the legitimacy of this feaux "protest"? Considering the alternative of doing nothing...how’s that been working out for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Man, at the end of the day all Browns fans are just frustrated and everyone handles and shows their frustration differently. Those that don't like the parade and are calling those that did "not real fans" is just as lame as those that did like it saying the same thing about those that didn't. Holier than thou I am not, and in the midst of a 1-31 run if you want to sit in your seat until the final whistle blows during a Browns 41-10 loss blowout, cool. If you leave during half time to show your frustration with your empty seat, cool...... But doing either doesn't make you more or a "better" fan than the other.... ......but here we are again during the NFL's post season doing what we Browns fans do best..... Pissing and moaning about trivial s h i t while other fans are eagerly awaiting their playoff game like it was Christmas Day with visions of a Super Bowl win floating in their heads. Good times indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Wouldn't know...pay not one second of attention to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said: Nope, a football season and a miscarriage are a great analogy. Even for wargo, that's just... wow. Sure it's different. But they're both the same purpose to be obnoxious arseholes. How about booing and flipping off the guys kid after his ball team loses? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Parade over. Close thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, wargograw said: Hey, my wife just had a miscarriage. Maybe to make myself feel better I'll go make fun of her for it! Wooh! This is the only thing of importance in this entire thread. I'm very sorry for both of your losses war. May God be with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: This is the only thing of importance in this entire thread. I'm very sorry for both of your losses war. May God be with you. Yeah. War, is she OK? Take care man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofJoeSixpack Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 56 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Wouldn't know...pay not one second of attention to it. Too bad. Looked like a real blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofJoeSixpack Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 01/06/2018 at 9:08 AM, BrownsFan4Evr said: First, let me say that, personally, I think the whole thing is ridiculous and embarrassing for the city. This just gives the rest of the country more reasons to mock Browns fans and Cleveland. So..............what are your thoughts, and is anyone here planning on going? Personally, I hope to see it become an annual tradition. A veritable anti-Dynasty if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: Considering the alternative of doing nothing...how’s that been working out for us? So you actually think this parade is going to make the Browns a better football team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Nero said: Yeah. War, is she OK? Take care man. Sorry guys. I'm not even married. I should have said "if." Will edit. Honestly, I thought about pulling a Costanza and just accepting the condolences. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: Nope, a football season and a miscarriage are a great analogy. Even for wargo, that's just... wow. You said "If you think Browns fans who went to the parade were celebrating going 0-16, and not obviously mocking the people responsible for it, well you are a special, special individual." So your idea of supporting the ones you love is to mock them when they fail. My analogy is exactly the same. Shocking, yes, but maybe it opened your eyes to how stupid the idea of mocking loved ones for their failures is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, wargograw said: Sorry guys. I'm not even married. I should have said "if." Will edit. You are a piece 'a work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 22 minutes ago, wargograw said: You said "If you think Browns fans who went to the parade were celebrating going 0-16, and not obviously mocking the people responsible for it, well you are a special, special individual." So your idea of supporting the ones you love is to mock them when they fail. My analogy is exactly the same. Shocking, yes, but maybe it opened your eyes to how stupid the idea of mocking loved ones for their failures is. Dude, keep digging that hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 He has our back. He knows our hearts are in the right place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Ogbah is going to be pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Saw this earler on the Browns Reddit. Lebron speaking the truth. What bothered me more is what Kirksey tweeted, "Parade? Smh really? I’m still rocking with the city and will continue to work my butt off to bring what the city what it deserves, but a parade?....Just keep putting in work, I mean they crucified Jesus and he rose in 3 days and shocked the world.....Browns for life!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 The fans should boycott the Browns until they win two games in a row? Yikes. When was the last time that happened? 2014? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 He went on: " “I got a kick out of it,” James told The Athletic. “I can’t even sit here and say that I didn’t. You know how you see some Sheet and you’re like, ‘That’s not really happening, right?’ And it’s so bad that it’s laughable. So when I seen the video at Browns Stadium, I was more like, ‘I cannot believe this is actually happening.’ And it actually happened.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, stillmotion said: Saw this earler on the Browns Reddit. Lebron speaking the truth. What bothered me more is what Kirksey tweeted, "Parade? Smh really? I’m still rocking with the city and will continue to work my butt off to bring what the city what it deserves, but a parade?....Just keep putting in work, I mean they crucified Jesus and he rose in 3 days and shocked the world.....Browns for life!" Man, this parade has people just busting out some really, really awesome analogies! Going to a parade for the 0-16 season is not only like mocking someone's hypothetical wife after she miscarries, but it's just like crucifying Jesus and, um, wow. Yeah, I think we officially need to move on from this subject. It's gotten silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 On Saturday, January 06, 2018 at 9:08 AM, BrownsFan4Evr said: First, let me say that, personally, I think the whole thing is ridiculous and embarrassing for the city. This just gives the rest of the country more reasons to mock Browns fans and Cleveland. So..............what are your thoughts, and is anyone here planning on going? the whole fuking country has been mocking this pos forever anyway...where the fuk have you been...we even have jackass terry bradshaw calling them dumb on the nfl pregame show a few weeks back...every fuking sports show calls them morons...even 680 the fan down here in atlanta calls them fuking embarrasing and should be kicked out of the nfl...IT CANNOT GET ANY WORSE.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 per some of the interviews - it seems that some of the fans showed up to say despite the no win season, they still wanted to come out to support their team and show they would never quit. Many others were just ridiculing the Browns for letting them down, etc etc etc.It was a disaster, in my book. The "parade" was a disgrace overall - the Browns have a lack of players to be competitive, not a desire to lose and disappoint the fans. Give the Browns a legit qb, wr's and a few db's....and the Browns are a very, very competitive, winning football team. The parade was a loser. Mocking the last season was the last thing fans should have been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: per some of the interviews - it seems that some of the fans showed up to say despite the no win season, they still wanted to come out to support their team and show they would never quit. Many others were just ridiculing the Browns for letting them down, etc etc etc.It was a disaster, in my book. The "parade" was a disgrace overall - the Browns have a lack of players to be competitive, not a desire to lose and disappoint the fans. Give the Browns a legit qb, wr's and a few db's....and the Browns are a very, very competitive, winning football team. The parade was a loser. Mocking the last season was the last thing fans should have been doing. Mocking the Browns 0-16 season was just like when the Nazis killed Anne Frank. Making idiotic analogies is fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Shelton made a good point. If this parade changes even 1 FA's mind about coming to Cleveland then these fans did themselves and the rest of us fans a major disservice. We'll never know for sure, but this was an embarrassment that could make the FO's job even harder. Regardless of the "intent" of the parade, you cannot change how others react to it. Players will see this and say "I don't want to go there and be embarrassed by those fans". A lesson to you all (from a behavior specialist), you cannot chose how others perceive your actions. Same as what happened with the anthem protest. You CANNOT choose others' interpretations. If kneeling is disrespectful in somebody's opinion, telling them your "intent" does not make the action less disrespectful in that person's view. If a player views the parade as an embarrassment, you cannot change their opinion by saying it was about "passion" and "sticking it to the FO." Sorry, just not how the world works... Saying we should have a 0-16 parade is one thing, kind of funny; however, actually doing it was just stupid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, thenew23 said: Shelton made a good point. If this parade changes even 1 FA's mind about coming to Cleveland then these fans did themselves and the rest of us fans a major disservice. We'll never know for sure, but this was an embarrassment that could make the FO's job even harder. Regardless of the "intent" of the parade, you cannot change how others react to it. Players will see this and say "I don't want to go there and be embarrassed by those fans". A lesson to you all (from a behavior specialist), you cannot chose how others perceive your actions. Same as what happened with the anthem protest. You CANNOT choose others' interpretations. If kneeling is disrespectful in somebody's opinion, telling them your "intent" does not make the action less disrespectful in that person's view. If a player views the parade as an embarrassment, you cannot change their opinion by saying it was about "passion" and "sticking it to the FO." Sorry, just not how the world works... Saying we should have a 0-16 parade is one thing, kind of funny; however, actually doing it was just stupid... I'd say the odds of having another Parade next year approach zero. Will just the parade affect our ability to sign free agents? That will be a minor factor, MHO. The 0-16 $hitshow will be 10X more important in guys minds about wanting to play here. Especially any top guys who not only want to get to the playoffs, but win a Super Bowl in their career. I think LeBron got it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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