Clevfan4life Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Just now, DieHardBrownsFan said: Trump should use executive privelege to ban gay marriage immediately. trump should use executive privelege to revoke ur citizenship and send u back to whatever eastern euro trash shithole u emigrated from. Whats ur thoughts on that? ☕ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 34 minutes ago, hoorta said: Regarding Catholic priests- just because you happen to be a priest doesn't in and of itself make you a "good person", there have been plenty of bad priests- and even bad Popes throughout history. MHO the failing has been the higher ups who too often took the "be merciful, as your Father is merciful" stance. Now? Toss 'em all in jail where they belong. And you hide behind "my gay rights are more important than your religions beliefs". Should a photographer that finds homosexuality revolting be forced to take pictures at a gay wedding? That's what he wants everyone to believe. Some people think he's this red guy with horns, a tail, and a pitchfork. Way smarter than that. Been known to show up in some pretty convincing disguises as a person they thought they knew. Exactly. I know for a fact satan is real. I've seen some genuine evil in this world. I've seen people who were good people all of the sudden do unthinkable things for no reason. They are not mentally ill. They were possessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: I don't think anyone should be refused service because of gender, race, ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation. I don't think your religious beliefs give you a pass. In what way does gay marriage affect you or your religious beliefs? Not about you offering a service or something. Just the fact that gay marriage is legal. And that photographer should be forced to attend a gay marriage, just because it's legal? Dammit, you gotta take our pictures whether you want to or not. I don't give a rats ass about your religious beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Exactly. I know for a fact satan is real. I've seen some genuine evil in this world. I've seen people who were good people all of the sudden do unthinkable things for no reason. They are not mentally ill. They were possessed. yes yes..blame satan, or canada....either or its pretty much the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted June 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Just now, Clevfan4life said: yes yes..blame satan, or canada....either or its pretty much the same It is humorous really to see this image of satan. The bible paints no such picture. He is portrayed as disguising himself as an angel of light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Trump should use executive privelege to ban gay marriage immediately. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 It's easy to blame some abstract entity for people doing terrible things. Avoids having to embrace the fact that there are some capable of great evil with little to no reason, and laying the responsibility for said evil at their feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: It's easy to blame some abstract entity for people doing terrible things. Avoids having to embrace the fact that there are some capable of great evil with little to no reason, and laying the responsibility for said evil at their feet. Actually, it's easier just to blame Donald Trump. 🤭 WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 46 minutes ago, hoorta said: And that photographer should be forced to attend a gay marriage, just because it's legal? Dammit, you gotta take our pictures whether you want to or not. I don't give a rats ass about your religious beliefs. No one is forcing them to take pictures at a gay wedding because no one is forcing them to be a photographer. Some here think you should be able to reject anyone for anything, and I disagree with that. Now how does two gay men getting married "attack" your religious freedom in any way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Damn, Woody is steaming about this subject as usual! Wonder why?🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted June 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: No one is forcing them to take pictures at a gay wedding because no one is forcing them to be a photographer. Some here think you should be able to reject anyone for anything, and I disagree with that. Now how does two gay men getting married "attack" your religious freedom in any way? The gay couple can find plenty of other photographers who would be happy to do their wedding. There is no need to try to force a Christian photographer who believes homosexuality is a sinful lifestyle to photograph their wedding (and why would they even want to ...lawsuit perhaps??...kaching) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Will either of you answer my second question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, hoorta said: Woody, I'm not saying that at all. In my working years I was a scientist myself. We were meant to seek knowledge. But we're never going to know it all. The rate were learning stuff is truly astounding. In the 1960s if you came down with leukemia, it was a death sentence- and were are we now? One of my Reference Lab duties was to screen donors by DNA analysis for rare blood types. If I had been able to get in a time machine to go back to my 1973 cell biology class and start spouting what I knew- those students would have thought I had just gotten off a space ship from another star system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: Will either of you answer my second question? I will. It doesn't. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, The Cysko Kid said: You're well known as, well, a nut job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, MLD Woody said: No one is forcing them to take pictures at a gay wedding because no one is forcing them to be a photographer. Some here think you should be able to reject anyone for anything, and I disagree with that. Now how does two gay men getting married "attack" your religious freedom in any way? Did you really just write that? Headslap! Someone shouldn't be a photographer for a living because they might run across folks they have issues with? Nope, and no one is forcing that couple to be gay either. To me, there's a difference you're missing. When a gay couple walks into a restaurant- of course they can't be refused service because they're gay, or Muslim, or pick some other minority. I'll add OBF's post because it's my thoughts exactly. This isn't like the 60s (that you're too young to have lived through)- where if you were black, there was no restaurant in town that would serve you- just because you were black. That gay couple could have probably gone to 10 other photographers in town who would have gladly taken their money. Most reasonable people would have said, oh well, this guy doesn't like us, so let's move on to the next photographer. Nope, they had to be a-holes and pull the discrimination card. 2 hours ago, OldBrownsFan said: The gay couple can find plenty of other photographers who would be happy to do their wedding. There is no need to try to force a Christian photographer who believes homosexuality is a sinful lifestyle to photograph their wedding (and why would they even want to ...lawsuit perhaps??...kaching) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 especially when the baker would bake them a regular cake no problem. Sell em a cake, no problem. It's the in-your-face trouble-making from the left that is the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: You're well known as, well, a nut job. Let's dance old man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 hours ago, OldBrownsFan said: It is humorous really to see this image of satan. The bible paints no such picture. He is portrayed as disguising himself as an angel of light. At the risk of raising some anti-Catholic sentiment. Cysco and a few others. Padre Pio once saw who he thought was his superior abbot, was talking with him- until he smelled sulfur, and said person disappeared. The saintlier the person, the better the disguise. to follow up on the tree of knowledge gambit- you really think Eve would have taken a bite if a Demon looking like that picture told her, don't worry- it's OK, really!!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 You're right. I'm never gonna dance again. Guilty feet ain't got no rhythm. I'd hate to be responsible for the heart attack of an old guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Cysko Kid said: You're right. I'm never gonna dance again. Guilty feet ain't got no rhythm. I'd hate to be responsible for the heart attack of an old guy. I knew I could bring out the tough guy psycho, I mean cysco.🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: I knew I could bring out the tough guy psycho, I mean cysco.🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted June 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 hours ago, tiamat63 said: It's easy to blame some abstract entity for people doing terrible things. Avoids having to embrace the fact that there are some capable of great evil with little to no reason, and laying the responsibility for said evil at their feet. I have no doubt people are influenced by demonic activity to do some of the evil acts we read about daily however that does not mean they are innocent. They chose to listen and to act on those demonic influences. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, The Cysko Kid said: Lunatic pogue, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 You believe Satan is walking around trying to trick you into sucking a dick so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Cysko Kid said: You believe Satan is walking around trying to trick you into sucking a dick so... Sure thing pogue, pussy, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Sure thing pogue, pussy, lol. You poor old thing. You're just not very good at hurting people's feelings are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 On review, some further thought on the subject. I'll direct this to Woody. 1) Say some guys come into that religious photographer's shop and ask him "hey man, we're gonna do a real kinky porno shoot, you interested?" Suppose he shouldn't turn them down either. 2) (the guy was probably too honest to tell the gay guys this) Sorry, I stopped photographing weddings, um- about two weeks ago. 3) Pedo is different from homo because of consent- this photographer was being unwillingly forced into an activity he didn't want to be involved in because of supposed gay rights. By my POV from some militant gay activists with an agenda who had other options. Have no personal problems with the LBGT community- until they try to stuff their view down my throat, and tell me everything we stand for is just hunky-dory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 hours ago, hoorta said: Did you really just write that? Headslap! Someone shouldn't be a photographer for a living because they might run across folks they have issues with? Nope, and no one is forcing that couple to be gay either. To me, there's a difference you're missing. When a gay couple walks into a restaurant- of course they can't be refused service because they're gay, or Muslim, or pick some other minority. I'll add OBF's post because it's my thoughts exactly. This isn't like the 60s (that you're too young to have lived through)- where if you were black, there was no restaurant in town that would serve you- just because you were black. That gay couple could have probably gone to 10 other photographers in town who would have gladly taken their money. Most reasonable people would have said, oh well, this guy doesn't like us, so let's move on to the next photographer. Nope, they had to be a-holes and pull the discrimination card. I know exactly what I just typed up. No one is forcing someone to be a certain occupation. If a person has issues with what comes along with that occupation, then they probably shouldn't pursue it. Yes, we are less prejudiced and bigoted than before. Just because those other prejudiced people are gone, doesn't mean the remaining group, religious folk, get to remain and discriminate. You're essentially allowing an entire town to shut a gay person out of any services. "My faith says I can't sell this gay man a car because homosexuality is a sinful lifestyle. That car is just going to enable him to be gay in other places. I can't do that because I'm a Christian." It just snowballs. Just because you're the last discriminatory game in town doesn't mean you get to keep doing it. Yes, how dare that gay couple be such "a-holes" in expecting to be treated just like everyone else regardless of how they were born. Now, again, how do two gay men getting married attack your religious freedoms? I have still not heard an answer from you or OBF on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted June 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: I know exactly what I just typed up. No one is forcing someone to be a certain occupation. If a person has issues with what comes along with that occupation, then they probably shouldn't pursue it. Yes, we are less prejudiced and bigoted than before. Just because those other prejudiced people are gone, doesn't mean the remaining group, religious folk, get to remain and discriminate. You're essentially allowing an entire town to shut a gay person out of any services. "My faith says I can't sell this gay man a car because homosexuality is a sinful lifestyle. That car is just going to enable him to be gay in other places. I can't do that because I'm a Christian." It just snowballs. Just because you're the last discriminatory game in town doesn't mean you get to keep doing it. Yes, how dare that gay couple be such "a-holes" in expecting to be treated just like everyone else regardless of how they were born. Now, again, how do two gay men getting married attack your religious freedoms? I have still not heard an answer from you or OBF on that. You answered it for me Woody. As a Christian we follow our consciences. The florist who was sued for not going to a gay wedding to set up the flower arrangement was actually friends with the gay couple, had sold them flowers many times before and had no problem selling them flowers for the wedding but having to attend the wedding was something that her conscience would not allow. You are saying that selling the flowers is not enough that if the gay couple demand the florist to attend the wedding she should not have a choice because that is discrimination if she doesn't, it doesn't matter about her conscience and and that is at least one area where gay marriage is an attack on our religious freedom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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