Axe Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Dinosaurs are not lizards. but some of them had lizard lips, like Tex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Axe said: The video makes a good argument for God. The cross makes a good argument for a personal God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 hours ago, tiamat63 said: Well... they're not anything now, other then bones. They aren't exactly bones either.😁 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/fossilized-dinos-are-bones-turned-stone-sometimes-part-original-dino-survives-180961042/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 I don't know why I paused my eval on Jeremy Chinn. The 6 minutes I did I watched the video Axe linked. That was about the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen and the only thing that made it dumber was the idiots being interviewed. Ok, can't get that time back sadly. So back to my eval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: They aren't exactly bones either.😁 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/fossilized-dinos-are-bones-turned-stone-sometimes-part-original-dino-survives-180961042/ If they are part of the original snowflake, that means they are anti Trump! MAGA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: I don't know why I paused my eval on Jeremy Chinn. The 6 minutes I did I watched the video Axe linked. That was about the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen and the only thing that made it dumber was the idiots being interviewed. Ok, can't get that time back sadly. So back to my eval. Anytime you want to explain the creation of DNA, or the conversion of RNA to DNA in absolute terms, we're all ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 and when you do, he'll have a meme old people share on Facebook to set you straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: and when you do, he'll have a meme old people share on Facebook to set you straight You're welcome to take a rip at it yourself .. And keep in mind, I don't talk about my religious beliefs but I will say my views on that matter are far more in line with yours than your political views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Axe said: You're welcome to take a rip at it yourself .. And keep in mind, I don't talk about my religious beliefs but I will say my views on that matter are far more in line with yours than your political views. I think Tia has a background in biology. Or maybe it's J? I think he could do it better than me. I'd just look around for a legitimate scientific article, read it, and then post it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: I think Tia has a background in biology. Or maybe it's J? I think he could do it better than me. I'd just look around for a legitimate scientific article, read it, and then post it What, no snarky response? go ahead, I did before posting the video. Plenty of theories. No absolute answer just as there is no absolute answer to what is outside the universe. Too much perfection outside of man. Too much perfection and balance to have happened by happenstance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 It had to have been a creator to make it all. And his prophet is Mohammad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 Alrighty then, it's settled 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, LogicIsForSquares said: It had to have been a creator to make it all. And his prophet is Mohammad! Some believe that. Some believe there is no God. Some believe in Hinduism or Buddha or other religions. Some believe in an impersonal God. There are lots of paths to follow or not follow. There is one faith though that holds out hope of life after physical death and the leader of this faith died and rose from death Himself proving His claims. He fulfilled hundreds of bible prophecies that defy mathematical odds. His fearful disciples became bold as lions after witnessing his resurrection. So I'm sticking with Jesus. That is the path I choose to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Dinosaurs are not lizards. And how many of them eat dogs? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, Axe said: What, no snarky response? go ahead, I did before posting the video. Plenty of theories. No absolute answer just as there is no absolute answer to what is outside the universe. Too much perfection outside of man. Too much perfection and balance to have happened by happenstance. perfection? thousands of people have died this year from what's basically a new flu we have organs we don't need cancer what perfection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, MLD Woody said: perfection? thousands of people have died this year from what's basically a new flu we have organs we don't need cancer what perfection? The bible speaks of perfection before the fall of Adam. After the fall the bible speaks of corruption and disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: perfection? thousands of people have died this year from what's basically a new flu we have organs we don't need cancer what perfection? What part of "outside of man" aren't you getting? Is it reading? or comprehension that is your issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: The bible speaks of perfection before the fall of Adam. After the fall the bible speaks of corruption and disease. Yes the Bible has many convenient and (and eventually modified) interpretations to explain away a lot of stuff. We get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Axe said: What part of "outside of man" aren't you getting? Is it reading? or comprehension? Diseases aren't outside of man? So you're just looking at nature and going "wow, that's so "perfect" there's no way "chance" could have made it? Just trying to understand your point here. Why do whales have leg bones? Why do flightless birds have wings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, MLD Woody said: Yes the Bible has many convenient and (and eventually modified) interpretations to explain away a lot of stuff. We get it I get it you don't believe the bible but that doesn't take away a mountain of evidence of it's truthfulness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: Diseases aren't outside of man? So you're just looking at nature and going "wow, that's so "perfect" there's no way "chance" could have made it? Just trying to understand your point here. Why do whales have leg bones? Why do flightless birds have wings? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Axe said: Alright, then you can go with your "it's just all too perfect" comment without adding anything else. I guess it beats a bad "meme" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 G'night Woody.. now you're just babbling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Axe said: Anytime you want to explain the creation of DNA, or the conversion of RNA to DNA in absolute terms, we're all ears. Look up the "RNA World" hypothesis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 hours ago, OldBrownsFan said: ...After the fall the bible speaks of corruption and disease. It does indeed. It also claimed that these were the effects of such things as witches and curses, and how people were put to death en mass because such beliefs. Kind of odd how witch burnings fell out of style once the germ theory of disease was discovered. One would think that an all-seeing God would've snuck that into his cannon to prevent thousands of his innocent followers from being put to death, but 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 7 hours ago, Axe said: The "one question" is simply the Argument from Design/Irreducible complexity argument. It's not really new or groundbreaking; scholars have been having this argument for centuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 12 hours ago, MLD Woody said: The Creation Museum says it was 6, 24 hour days From what we know about in science, that's right up there with the flat earth society. 12 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: I'm just here tweaking tails OBF. No harm is meant. There is a lot of extraneous stuff in just about any religion or any sect of the Christian belief system. For me the task has always been to weed out that stuff and keep the essence of the spiritual side of it the best I know how. For example "Let there be light!" is fully in concert with the Big Bang creation over 13 billion years ago. I find it interesting though that all of us and our entire solar system are at least a 2nd or 3rd generation star system, otherwise we could have no precious gold to hoard that science now thinks can only be created in the collision of two neutron stars. It's too heavy to have come from the "usual" Supernova. And it didn't just come from the first Big Bang. That did not create the heavy elements. I won't go that far- but you need at least one supernova to create the carbon we're made out of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 hours ago, OldBrownsFan said: The bible speaks of perfection before the fall of Adam. After the fall the bible speaks of corruption and disease. And we get the corona bologna because of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 hours ago, hoorta said: From what we know about in science, that's right up there with the flat earth society. I won't go that far- but you need at least one supernova to create the carbon we're made out of. Seen in action for the first time in 2017. Supernova do not create gold it as had been previously thought. https://earthsky.org/space/how-the-universe-creates-gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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