2021 Browns Depth Chart

[Axe]

Maybe I'm wrong. I often am..

  I, want a slot or preferably a TE to attack the center of the field.. Most teams focus on CBs , and where do they defend? Primarily from the hash marks out. Who defends the center of the field? LBs and Safeties. Who are typically the worst coverage people? LBs and Safeties.. Who understands this concept? Well KC certainly does .. And if you read "The Quarterback Whisperer", then Arians does as well.. I am a Bucs fan and a Browns fan..

I soooo want to see the Browns win a Lombardi in my lifetime!!!

I soooo want to see the Browns win a Lombardi in my lifetime!!!

 

Need I say it again?

I soooo want to see the Browns win a Lombardi in my lifetime!!!

 

I look at the Bucs team that just won a Lombardi and our Browns who came up a bit short. One of the biggest differences I see is the ability to attack the center of the field..

 

Fix it...

 

[gumby73]

5 minutes ago, Axe said:

I look at the Bucs team that just won a Lombardi and our Browns who came up a bit short. One of the biggest differences I see is the ability to attack the center of the field..

 

Fix it...

 

Trade us Devin White & Shaq Barrett & were close... 😎... bruising LB speed kills.. our safety unit maybe better?

[Axe]

21 minutes ago, gumby73 said:

Trade us Devin White & Shaq Barrett & we're close... 😎...

Well, our Browns just signed Clowney... That should make Barrett a wash correct? Devin White aside, the point remains the same..

Upgrade the center of the field attack.. Take pressure off of Landry and the diva. And Baker.. And the O line a bit..

 

[TexasAg1969]

8 hours ago, Axe said:

Well, our Browns just signed Clowney... That should make Barrett a wash correct? Devin White aside, the point remains the same..

Upgrade the center of the field attack.. Take pressure off of Landry and the diva. And Baker.. And the O line a bit..

Actually now we truly have the ability to go BPA. That could be Kwitty, could be one of those WRs or could be one of those CBs. Or even my fav DT. The next two weeks of speculation will be fun.😁👨‍🔧 

Draft needs before Jackson and Clowney signed.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/team-needs

[Zombo]

On 4/14/2021 at 4:28 PM, Tour2ma said:

Need another update...

Good God... sitting here looking at Ourlads' depth Chart while mentally penciling in Clowney.

 

And all I can think of is how cheap PSLs were just three, short years ago...

Here you are, Sir. First one to say "Clowney is a linebacker" gets smacked. He's been brought in to line up opposite Myles, he'll be on the field in a lot of different looks, don't get hung up on the labels.

QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, K. Lauletta

FB A. Janovich, J. Stanton

RB  N. Chubb,  K. Hunt,  D. Johnson, J. Kelly

WR1  O. Beckham,  D. Peoples-Jones,  K. Hodge, J. Natson

WR2 J. Landry,  R. Higgins,  J. Bradley, R. Switzer, A.Hollins

TE  A. Hooper, D. Njoku, H. Bryant , S. Carlson , K. Markway, J. Franks

LT J. Wills,  A. Taylor, G. Senat

LG J. Bitonio , B. Hance, A. Fabiano 

C J.Tretter , N. Harris

RG  W. Teller ,  M. Dunn, C. Iwuagwu

RT J. Conklin,  C. Hubbard 

 

DE M. Garrett, P. Gustin, C. Malveaux

DT  A. Billings, J. Elliott

DT  M. Jackson, S. Day

DE  J. Clowney, T. McKinley,  J. Jackson 

MLB A. Walker, S. Takitaki, M. Wilson

OLB  M. Smith, J. Phillips, E. Lee, T. Young, G. Obinna, C. Weaver

CB D. Ward, A.J. Green,

CB  G. Williams, R. Jackson, B. Allen

NB  T. Hill,  MJ Stewart, 

FS  R. Harrison, G Delpit, J. Moffat, E. Benton

SS  J. Johnson, S. Redwine,  M. Meander

 

K  C. Parkey, M. McCrane

P  J. Gillan

LS  C. Hughlett

KR  (J. Natson)(D. Johnson)

PR  (J. Natson)(D. Peoples-Jones) 

Just my opinion of the 55 (in bold) that would make up our roster as of today and who I see starting after camp ... Pre draft and UDFA periods, of course.

Biggest Draft Needs IMO:

(Follow the One-Year Contracts:)

1. DT (Only Elliot under contract for next year)

2. Edge/DE (Find Garrett's future running mate)

3. WR (always need another Burner)

4. LB (Keep drafting mid round guys until we find the right guy)

5. CB (Lacking depth/ Greedy insurance)

6. OL (interior depth)

 

Zombo

[TexasAg1969]

1 hour ago, Zombo said:

Here you are, Sir. First one to say "Clowney is a linebacker" gets smacked. He's been brought in to line up opposite Myles, he'll be on the field in a lot of different looks, don't get hung up on the labels.

QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, K. Lauletta

FB A. Janovich, J. Stanton

RB  N. Chubb,  K. Hunt,  D. Johnson, J. Kelly

WR1  O. Beckham,  D. Peoples-Jones,  K. Hodge, J. Natson

WR2 J. Landry,  R. Higgins,  J. Bradley, R. Switzer, A.Hollins

TE  A. Hooper, D. Njoku, H. Bryant , S. Carlson , K. Markway, J. Franks

LT J. Wills,  A. Taylor, G. Senat

LG J. Bitonio , B. Hance, A. Fabiano 

C J.Tretter , N. Harris

RG  W. Teller ,  M. Dunn, C. Iwuagwu

RT J. Conklin,  C. Hubbard 

 

DE M. Garrett, P. Gustin, C. Malveaux

DT  S. Richardson, J. Elliott

DT  M. Jackson, A. Billings, S. Day

DE  J. Clowney, T. McKinley,  J. Jackson 

MLB A. Walker, S. Takitaki, M. Wilson

OLB  M. Smith, J. Phillips, E. Lee, T. Young, G. Obinna, C. Weaver

CB D. Ward, A.J. Green,

CB  G. Williams, R. Jackson, B. Allen

NB  T. Hill,  MJ Stewart, 

FS  R. Harrison, G Delpit, J. Moffat, E. Benton

SS  J. Johnson, S. Redwine,  M. Meander

 

K  C. Parkey, M. McCrane

P  J. Gillan

LS  C. Hughlett

KR  (J. Natson)(D. Johnson)

PR  (J. Natson)(D. Peoples-Jones) 

Just my opinion of the 55 (in bold) that would make up our roster as of today and who I see starting after camp ... Pre draft and UDFA periods, of course.

Biggest Draft Needs IMO:

(Follow the One-Year Contracts:)

1. Edge/DE (Find Garret's future running mate)

2. DT (Only Elliot under contract for next year)

3. WR (always need another Burner)

4. LB (Keep drafting mid round guys until we find the right guy)

5. CB (Lacking depth/ Greedy insurance)

6. OL (interior depth)

 

Zombo

With the depth that we now have, I can see us using some of that draft capital to move up for a player we especially want for the long term. Especially if we see one that we think Pitt wants just before our pick.

[The Gipper]

10 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

With the depth that we now have, I can see us using some of that draft capital to move up for a player we especially want for the long term. Especially if we see one that we think Pitt wants just before our pick.

Yes,  I can't see  9 rookie draftees coming on to this team.  I see the Browns taking only  6-7 picks by using some to make some trade-ups.

[calfoxwc]

3 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

With the depth that we now have, I can see us using some of that draft capital to move up for a player we especially want for the long term. Especially if we see one that we think Pitt wants just before our pick.

The Browns can trade up to the 20th pick with a third and fifth round package. I actually expect them to trade ahead of the squealers if they have that one player that they really think is worth it.

 

[The Gipper]

Just now, calfoxwc said:

The Browns can trade up to the 20th pick with a third and fifth round package. I actually expect them to trade ahead of the squealers if they have that one player that they really think is worth it.

 

Who do YOU think if that one player that you would jump to make that move?

[Unsympathetic]

Joe Jackson vs Porter Gustin vs Curtis Weaver -- A good problem to have, here's guessing 6 edges and 5 DI are rostered. PFF rating would see Porter win out. Jackson 2019 had higher passrush win rate than Brian Burns or Curtis Weaver. Note that 4-2-5 means LB has fewer roster spots.. and that ourlads puts Weaver at OLB.

[The Gipper]

1 hour ago, Unsympathetic said:

Joe Jackson vs Porter Gustin vs Curtis Weaver -- A good problem to have, here's guessing 6 edges and 5 DI are rostered. PFF rating would see Porter win out. Jackson 2019 had higher passrush win rate than Brian Burns or Curtis Weaver. Note that 4-2-5 means LB has fewer roster spots.. and that ourlads puts Weaver at OLB.

I don't know.  I could see Joe Jackson  stepping out.

 

[Orion]

21 hours ago, Axe said:

I, want a slot or preferably a TE to attack the center of the field..

You're in luck!  Our HC loves TE's.  He keeps lots of 'em on the roster.  I think if they'd expand the roster, he'd just add more TE's.  

[Tour2ma]

14 hours ago, Zombo said:

Here you are, Sir. First one to say "Clowney is a linebacker" gets smacked.

Thank you... and I'll hold him for you...

 

Under the radar, depth signing today... Sheldon Day (DT)... 4-yr vet... 4th-round pick... former golden domer.

Undersized DT, but showed some quicks at The Combine.

[Zombo]

Depth Chart updated above ⬆️to reflect Defensive Tackle Situation.

It was already a top need because Richardson, Jackson and Billings were/are gone next year, so it will definitely be addressed via draft.

Zombo

[ballpeen]

On 4/15/2021 at 5:46 PM, Unsympathetic said:

Joe Jackson vs Porter Gustin vs Curtis Weaver -- A good problem to have, here's guessing 6 edges and 5 DI are rostered. PFF rating would see Porter win out. Jackson 2019 had higher passrush win rate than Brian Burns or Curtis Weaver. Note that 4-2-5 means LB has fewer roster spots.. and that ourlads puts Weaver at OLB.

11 players on the DL is pretty high.  At least it seems so to me even considering the possibility of fewer true linebackers.

 

It could be the number, but for kicks, chop 1-2 names off the list so you aren't ticked when the final roster is announced.

[tiamat63]

On 4/17/2021 at 8:05 AM, Zombo said:

Depth Chart updated above ⬆️to reflect Defensive Tackle Situation.

It was already a top need because Richardson, Jackson and Billings were/are gone next year, so it will definitely be addressed via draft.

Zombo

I think you might be too quick to dismiss Billings earning another contract with the Browns should his level of play from the 2019 season carry over to 2021.

[Zombo]

22 minutes ago, tiamat63 said:

I think you might be too quick to dismiss Billings earning another contract with the Browns should his level of play from the 2019 season carry over to 2021.

Yes we have his rights for a year, him playing himself into another contract is one scenario. Point it is, its a position that needs addressed as we move forward.

Z

[SdBacker80]

Browns needs now and immediate future (12 months).

1. DT

2. CB

3. K

4. DE

5. Interior OL

6. WR

7. S

8. FB

 

 

[Dutch Oven]

58 minutes ago, Zombo said:

Yes we have his rights for a year, him playing himself into another contract is one scenario. Point it is, its a position that needs addressed as we move forward.

Z

I sincerely hope the Browns invest heavily on the DLine in this upcomng draft.

There aren't that many guys signed past this coming season. 

[Zombo]

After Day 1, I'm gonna go ahead and project our big, fast cover corner starting on the outside ... and update our needs.

QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, K. Lauletta

FB A. Janovich, J. Stanton

RB  N. Chubb,  K. Hunt,  D. Johnson, J. Kelly

WR1  O. Beckham,  D. Peoples-Jones,  K. Hodge, J. Natson

WR2 J. Landry,  R. Higgins,  J. Bradley, R. Switzer, A.Hollins

TE  A. Hooper, D. Njoku, H. Bryant , S. Carlson , K. Markway, J. Franks

LT J. Wills,  A. Taylor, G. Senat

LG J. Bitonio , B. Hance, A. Fabiano 

C J.Tretter , N. Harris

RG  W. Teller ,  M. Dunn, C. Iwuagwu

RT J. Conklin,  C. Hubbard 

 

DE M. Garrett, P. Gustin, C. Malveaux

DT  A. Billings, J. Elliott

DT  M. Jackson, S. Day

DE  J. Clowney, T. McKinley,  J. Jackson 

MLB A. Walker, S. Takitaki, M. Wilson

OLB  M. Smith, J. Phillips, E. Lee, T. Young, G. Obinna, C. Weaver

CB D. Ward, A.J. Green, R. Jackson

CB  G. Newsome, G. Williams,  B. Allen

NB  T. Hill,  MJ Stewart

FS  R. Harrison, G Delpit, J. Moffat, E. Benton

SS  J. Johnson, S. Redwine,  M. Meander

 

K  C. Parkey, M. McCrane

P  J. Gillan

LS  C. Hughlett

KR  (J. Natson)(D. Johnson)

PR  (J. Natson)(D. Peoples-Jones) 

Just my opinion of the 55 (in bold) that would make up our roster as of today and who I see starting after camp ... Pre rest of draft draft and UDFA periods, of course.

Biggest Draft Needs IMO:

(Follow the One-Year Contracts:)

1. DT (Only Elliot under contract for next year)

2. Edge/DE (Find Garrett's future running mate)

3. WR (always need another Burner)

4. LB (Keep drafting mid round guys until we find the right guy)

6. OL (interior depth)

Zombo

--Not sure we're going to find the edge guy of the future anymore, I would look at a Beefy DT, a flashy WR, and/or a dependable LB as possibilities for our two picks today

[TexasAg1969]

20 minutes ago, Zombo said:

After Day 1, I'm gonna go ahead and project our big, fast cover corner starting on the outside ... and update our needs.

--Not sure we're going to find the edge guy of the future anymore, I would look at a Beefy DT, a flashy WR, and/or a dependable LB as possibilities for our two picks today

So are you willing to trade up at this point to get that DT?

[Zombo]

2 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

So are you willing to trade up at this point to get that DT?

No, not in this class of DTs.

Zombo

--We can always bring Richardson back for a year if the right guy isn't there.

[TexasAg1969]

Just now, Zombo said:

No, not in this class of DTs.

Zombo

So who would you wait for then?

[Unsympathetic]

Alim McNeil for IDL

2021 Starters on the last year of their contract [Likely replacement]:

Tretter [Harris] - likely cut for 8M salary savings

Teller [2021 Draftee]

Billings [Resigned]

Jackson [2021- 3rd Round Draftee Named McNeil]

Clowney [2022 FirstRound]

Takk [Resigned]

Harrison [2021 Draftee]

[Zombo]

2 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

So who would you wait for then

Dude, I don't know any names of guys in the late second round. This is a question for Tour and the draftniks, I'll analyze them when they are brown and orange.

Zombo

[The Gipper]

2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

So are you willing to trade up at this point to get that DT?

I would trade up.....if the Browns powers that be  determine there is someone  worth doing so for.  As Z said though....I would defer to someone else for that determination.  That is:  the true professional talent evaluators  who get their paychecks from the Cleveland Browns.    I would do so partly because as has been said all along,  we are really not in a position to use 9 draft picks,  so let's parley some of them and move up.   I thought that could have happened yesterday. 

[Tour2ma]

4 hours ago, Zombo said:

K. Lauletta

Forgot all about our #3... Good enough to forestall drafting a QB for at least this go 'round... unless Mond falls to us in the 3rd

 

Have to love how we are shaping up. We really are in position for BPA Days 2 and 3. Following the 1-yr deals is a smart approach.

 

One suggestion, Z... need to slip in a HYBRID slot somewhere. Below the LBs works. We've a couple Safeties that can populate it for now: Delpit with Harrison behind him. And we still may draft another one.

 

[tiamat63]

"NB" (Nickel back) designation is fine.   

Just worth pointing out that a safety can be your nickel defender - something we'll see a great deal of this fall.    Then in more obvious passing downs and distances that nickel is a corner.

[Tour2ma]

8 minutes ago, tiamat63 said:

"NB" (Nickel back) designation is fine.   

It confuses me... so no it's not... 😛

[Tour2ma]

Seriously...

On 1st and 10 thru 2nd and 6-ish we are more likely to go with a hydrid LB (if we have one)/3rd Safety than a 5th CB over the TE.

Then 3rd and "long", say 7+, if the O subs in more WRs, then we could just as easily pull a true LB and put that 5th DB, our NB, on the slot while keeping our "hybrid" on the TE.

 

I see the roles as different and likely on the field coincidentally.