2021 Browns Depth Chart

[Orion]

Felton makes good moves to get the defender leaning into the direction that Felton will NOT be going,  and breaks in the other direction off of his misdirection plant foot.  That's how I used to get separation back in the day.  Although I would look like Felton in super slow motion. 

 

[SdBacker80]

JOK is a GOOD Chess piece. I hate to say Queen (he’s free to roam it seems wherever he likes). because he plays really physical. 

[calfoxwc]

McCrane will end up moving again - released from the Browns' practice squad

https://www.brownsnation.com/browns-waive-practice-squad-kicker-matt-mccrane/

[Ibleedbrown]

11 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

McCrane will end up moving again - released from the Browns' practice squad

https://www.brownsnation.com/browns-waive-practice-squad-kicker-matt-mccrane/

Perhaps his next team will capitalize on the Irish Karate Kid jokes.

[Unsympathetic]

An article from a couple wks ago -- Curtis Weaver has, at least according to PR, achieved some improvements on his weaknesses.

Weaver for roster depth.  Big weakness was lack of size/strength in setting the edge.. we'll see shortly if changes are enough.

[SdBacker80]

JOK- Chess Piece (we’ve had some fabulous suggestions for which chess piece.

Weaver- Lottery Ticket.  Drafted past the fourth round and coming off an injury.

Delpit- Redshirt year. Coming off Achilles and learning the Pro game at a spot where mental game reps are just as important.

Greedy- The big question mark.  Not just the injury but his play hasn’t really invoked true confidence that he can play alongside an AllPro type corner.  He’s gonna be the target on the other side too. 
 

Here’s the good news in years past these four would not only expect to make the team but they would Have to be big producers In starting roles

[Tour2ma]

On 5/11/2021 at 10:06 AM, tiamat63 said:

Safe to say you can call JOK a WILL backer now (as expected) per Berry.

Early downs for sure, but in 2nd/3rd & longs I think we are going to see a good deal him over the TE.

[Zombo]

Updated with this month's transactions ... and I added more positions for those who like that look

QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, K. Lauletta

FB A. Janovich, J. Stanton

RB  N. Chubb,  K. Hunt,  D. Johnson, D. Felton, T. Harbison, J. Kelly

WR1  O. Beckham,  A. Schwartz,  J. Natson, D. Willies

WR2 J. Landry,  K. Hodge,  R. Switzer, A.Hollins

WR3  R. Higgins, D. Peoples-Jones, J. Bradley

TE1 A. Hooper, D. Njoku, C. Davis,

TE2  H. Bryant , S. Carlson, J. Franks

LT J. Wills,  J. Hudson A. Taylor,

LG J. Bitonio , B. Hance, A. Fabiano, C. Gossett

C J.Tretter , N. Harris, J. Patterson

RG  W. Teller ,  M. Dunn, D. Forbes, C. Iwuagwu

RT J. Conklin,  C. Hubbard , G. Senat

 

DE M. Garrett, P. Gustin, C. Malveaux, R. McNight

DT  A. Billings, J. Elliott, M. Wilson, D. Square

DT  M. Jackson, T. Togiai, M. McDowell, S. Day

DE  J. Clowney, T. McKinley,  J. Jackson , C. Weaver

MLB A. Walker,  T. Fields , M. Wilson

WLB  J. O-K, M. Smith,  G. Obinna, 

SLB  J. Phillips, S. Takitaki, E. Lee

CB D. Ward, A.J. Green, R. Jackson

CB  G. Newsome, G. Williams,  K. Thomas, B. Allen

Nickle  T. Hill,  MJ Stewart, E. Rugamba

Dime R. Harrison, M. Meander

FS , G Delpit, R. LeCounte,J. Moffat,

SS  J. Johnson, S. Redwine,  E. Benton

 

K  C. Parkey, C. McLaughlin

P  J. Gillan

LS  C. Hughlett

KR  (J. Natson)(D. Johnson) (D. Felton)

PR  (J. Natson)(D. Peoples-Jones) (D. Felton)

My final roster in Bold

[Orion]

I still think 6th round Felton makes the team.  (instead of Natson or Johnson)

[Zombo]

17 minutes ago, Orion said:

I still think 6th round Felton makes the team.  (instead of Natson or Johnson)

Ya, probably, but I don't want to give up on Johnson yet, he fought hard to get where he is. If he takes the kick returner job from Natson though, I'm good with that. 

[Orion]

1 hour ago, Zombo said:

Ya, probably, but I don't want to give up on Johnson yet, 

I too like Johnson.  He blocks, runs and caught 3 passes in his limited action.  I remember that he had to come in for Hunt late in a game and we were trying to run the clock out.  And he was able to deliver a couple of nice runs for first downs which saved the victory.  -  Having said that, he's not real fast.  And it seems that this regime is looking for speed at all positions.  - Perhaps they'll keep 4 backs.

[gumby73]

On 5/25/2021 at 5:59 PM, Zombo said:

Updated with this month's transactions ... and I added more positions for those who like that look

QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, K. Lauletta

FB A. Janovich, J. Stanton

RB  N. Chubb,  K. Hunt,  D. Johnson*, D. Felton, T. Harbison, J. Kelly

WR1  O. Beckham,  A. Schwartz,  J. Natson*, D. Willies

WR2 J. Landry,  K. Hodge,  R. Switzer, A.Hollins

WR3  R. Higgins, D. Peoples-Jones, J. Bradley

TE1 A. Hooper, D. Njoku, C. Davis,

TE2  H. Bryant , S. Carlson, J. Franks

LT J. Wills,  J. Hudson A. Taylor,

LG J. Bitonio , B. Hance*, A. Fabiano, C. Gossett

C J.Tretter , N. Harris, J. Patterson

RG  W. Teller ,  M. Dunn*, D. Forbes, C. Iwuagwu

RT J. Conklin,  C. Hubbard , G. Senat

 

DE M. Garrett, P. Gustin*, C. Malveaux, R. McNight

DT  A. Billings, J. Elliott, M. Wilson, D. Square

DT  M. Jackson, T. Togiai, M. McDowell, S. Day

DE  J. Clowney, T. McKinley,  J. Jackson , C. Weaver

MLB A. Walker,  T. Fields , M. Wilson

WLB  J. O-K, M. Smith,  G. Obinna, 

SLB  J. Phillips, S. Takitaki, E. Lee

CB D. Ward, A.J. Green, R. Jackson

CB  G. Newsome, G. Williams,  K. Thomas, B. Allen

Nickle  T. Hill,  MJ Stewart, E. Rugamba

Dime R. Harrison, M. Meander

FS , G Delpit, R. LeCounte*,J. Moffat,

SS  J. Johnson, S. Redwine,  E. Benton

 

K  C. Parkey, C. McLaughlin

P  J. Gillan

LS  C. Hughlett

KR  (J. Natson)(D. Johnson) (D. Felton)

PR  (J. Natson)(D. Peoples-Jones) (D. Felton)

My final roster in Bold

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   Scott Petrak  VS Zombo 
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• June 3, 2021

So here goes my way-too-early 53-man roster projection …

QB: Baker Mayfield, Case Keenum

RB: Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt, Demetric Felton*

FB: Andy Janovich

WR: Odell Beckham Jr., Jarvis Landry, KhaDarel Hodge, Rashard Higgins, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Anthony Schwartz

TE: Austin Hooper, David Njoku, Harrison Bryant, Stephen Carlson

OL: Jedrick Wills Jr., Joel Bitonio, JC Tretter, Wyatt Teller, Jack Conklin, Chris Hubbard, James Hudson, Nick Harris

DE: Myles Garrett, Jadeveon Clowney, Takkarist McKinley, Curtis Weaver*

DT: Malik Jackson, Andrew Billings, Jordan Elliott, Malik McDowell,* Tommy Togiai

LB: Anthony Walker, Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Jacob Phillips, Sione Takitaki, Malcolm Smith, Tony Fields II

CB: Denzel Ward, Greg Newsome II, Greedy Williams, Troy Hill, A.J. Green, M.J. Stewart Jr.

S: John Johnson III, Grant Delpit, Ronnie Harrison Jr., Sheldrick Redwine, Elijah Benton*

K: Cody Parkey

P: Jamie Gillan

LS: Charley Hughlett

Note: Defensive tackle and linebacker could feature the most competitive battles.

** only 4/5 differs 🤔

[Zombo]

3 hours ago, gumby73 said:

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• by

   Scott Petrak  VS Zombo 
•  
• June 3, 2021

So here goes my way-too-early 53-man roster projection …

QB: Baker Mayfield, Case Keenum

RB: Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt, Demetric Felton*

FB: Andy Janovich

WR: Odell Beckham Jr., Jarvis Landry, KhaDarel Hodge, Rashard Higgins, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Anthony Schwartz

TE: Austin Hooper, David Njoku, Harrison Bryant, Stephen Carlson

OL: Jedrick Wills Jr., Joel Bitonio, JC Tretter, Wyatt Teller, Jack Conklin, Chris Hubbard, James Hudson, Nick Harris

DE: Myles Garrett, Jadeveon Clowney, Takkarist McKinley, Curtis Weaver*

DT: Malik Jackson, Andrew Billings, Jordan Elliott, Malik McDowell,* Tommy Togiai

LB: Anthony Walker, Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Jacob Phillips, Sione Takitaki, Malcolm Smith, Tony Fields II

CB: Denzel Ward, Greg Newsome II, Greedy Williams, Troy Hill, A.J. Green, M.J. Stewart Jr.

S: John Johnson III, Grant Delpit, Ronnie Harrison Jr., Sheldrick Redwine, Elijah Benton*

K: Cody Parkey

P: Jamie Gillan

LS: Charley Hughlett

Note: Defensive tackle and linebacker could feature the most competitive battles.

** only 4/5 differs 🤔

Ya, he's speculating on some new guys... I hope that is the case ... but I wanna see what they do in pads first.

Z

[gumby73]

On 6/4/2021 at 3:24 PM, gumby73 said:

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• by

   Scott Petrak  VS Zombo 
•  
• June 3, 2021

So here goes my way-too-early 53-man roster projection …

QB: Baker Mayfield, Case Keenum

RB: Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt, Demetric Felton*

FB: Andy Janovich

WR: Odell Beckham Jr., Jarvis Landry, KhaDarel Hodge, Rashard Higgins, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Anthony Schwartz

TE: Austin Hooper, David Njoku, Harrison Bryant, Stephen Carlson

OL: Jedrick Wills Jr., Joel Bitonio, JC Tretter, Wyatt Teller, Jack Conklin, Chris Hubbard, James Hudson, Nick Harris

DE: Myles Garrett, Jadeveon Clowney, Takkarist McKinley, Curtis Weaver*

DT: Malik Jackson, Andrew Billings, Jordan Elliott, Malik McDowell,* Tommy Togiai

LB: Anthony Walker, Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Jacob Phillips, Sione Takitaki, Malcolm Smith, Tony Fields II

CB: Denzel Ward, Greg Newsome II, Greedy Williams, Troy Hill, A.J. Green, M.J. Stewart Jr.

S: John Johnson III, Grant Delpit, Ronnie Harrison Jr., Sheldrick Redwine, Elijah Benton*

K: Cody Parkey

P: Jamie Gillan

LS: Charley Hughlett

Note: Defensive tackle and linebacker could feature the most competitive battles.

** only 4/5 differs 🤔

Agreed Zombo...

39 locks, is the way i see it..  14 upgrade-able open roster spots.. Hubbard/Gusto/Elliott/Weaver/Mack Wilson pends on position competition..McDowell I'm really pulling for... Heck! we may get a late round pick for any of them/but non the less, they are upgrade-able...

Were right around 10'ish open spots that could go either way... 5 still in black(above) our the drafted rookies..  

Either way..This cut won't come easy... Excellent to see ! Step 1..Cut the right Guy!

good eye on your early depth chart boss... 🏆

6/29 edit-- Bold cut down thoughts.. https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/browns-maven-features/browns-players-who-could-be-cut

[tiamat63]

6 minutes ago, gumby73 said:

Agreed Zombo...

39 locks, is the way i see it..  14 upgrade-able open roster spots.. Hubbard/Gusto/Elliott/Weaver/Mack Wilson pends on position competition..McDowell I'm really pulling for... Heck! we may get a late round pick for any of them/but non the less, they are upgrade-able...

Were right around 10'ish open spots that could go either way... 5 still in black(above) our the drafted rookies..  

Either way..This cut won't come easy... Excellent to see ! 

good eye on your early depth chart boss... 🏆

 

You see McDowell as a lock over.... Togiai?  

I'm getting ready to enjoy a nice sun set, pass over that weed you're hitting.

[gumby73]

1 hour ago, tiamat63 said:

 

You see McDowell as a lock over.... Togiai?  

I'm getting ready to enjoy a nice sun set, pass over that weed you're hitting.

I see McDowell finding a spot backing up Garrett or Clowney... Togiai is our DT3.... them weeds may smoke till after camp 🤓

 

They say he's 295 lbs.. 

   I'd have to see him 👀.. to believe them...

[Dutch Oven]

Not sure how reliable the source is, but supposedly the Browns have kept in touch with Sheldon Richardson's agent. 

[Orion]

On 6/6/2021 at 3:25 PM, Dutch Oven said:

Not sure how reliable the source is, but supposedly the Browns have kept in touch with Sheldon Richardson's agent. 

I've heard that...and been hoping ever since his financial release.  I like him!

[calfoxwc]

On 6/4/2021 at 8:01 PM, tiamat63 said:

 

You see McDowell as a lock over.... Togiai?  

I'm getting ready to enjoy a nice sun set, pass over that weed you're hitting.

I believe Togiai is going to be a big surprise - Ourlads has him backing up starter Billings at RDT.

https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/CLE

 

[Tour2ma]

Togiai was a nice value where we picked him, but resigning Richardson at a bargain price is a no-brainer...

 

Plus Vernon is still out there... ... just sayin'...

 

MG - SR - AB/MJ - JC? That's a helluva DL...

 

[Tour2ma]

Looks like Sheldon is heading north...

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/06/sheldon-richardson-wont-re-sign-with-the-browns-source-says-could-be-headed-back-to-minnesota-per-report.html

[Unsympathetic]

Sheldon's contract with Minn is 1/3.6.   Just for fun, 3.6 is exactly the difference between Hubbard's 2021 salary (4.9) and dead money if he was to be cut for some reason (1.3).

[gumby73]

Not a short defensive breakdown... (till mid July? time is all we have 🤓)

Mentioned elsewhere, I liked Jake Burns film room clips.. Here's a Father Day piece, to enjoy at your leisure in sections ... Enjoy & HFD!

  

I'll be taking any complaints late Tuesday night 🤩... 

[gumby73]

Hooray! no complaints... ^^

Sat in on this one live last night... Thought @tiamat63 & others may enjoy... Long... But again, take in, at your own sponging leisure (this starts at 22 minutes in..rewind..is your option)

 

[tiamat63]

@gumby73. At work, then the gym & golf course.  I'll give that a look later tonight.

[Unsympathetic]

Speaking of videos that everyone should watch while eating goldfish at 1am, Kollmann's spread offense history is interesting.

[Tour2ma]

Browns Roster: 5 veterans who could be pushed off roster by 2021 draft picks

5. Mack Wilson - article says he became a "fan favorite"... ... otherwise it's a good read.

4. Hodge - return an OBJ, draft a Schwartz... doesn't leave much room.

3. Redwine - Safety room got crowded fast as well...

2. D'Ernest - with 90+% of the work going to two guys and a draft pick backing them up, the writing is on the proverbial wall.

1. Malcolm Smith - only real surprise name, but when JOK develops he becomes expendable... nice mid-season trade candidate for draft pick.

 

[tiamat63]

2 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

Browns Roster: 5 veterans who could be pushed off roster by 2021 draft picks

5. Mack Wilson - article says he became a "fan favorite"... ... otherwise it's a good read.

4. Hodge - return an OBJ, draft a Schwartz... doesn't leave much room.

3. Redwine - Safety room got crowded fast as well...

2. D'Ernest - with 90+% of the work going to two guys and a draft pick backing them up, the writing is on the proverbial wall.

1. Malcolm Smith - only real surprise name, but when JOK develops he becomes expendable... nice mid-season trade candidate for draft pick.

 

Maybe it's just me, but I fail to see the upside in the running back room that Felton brings over DJ?   Maybe a little more lateral agility at best, but as a pure ball carrier I'm just not seeing it.   I like DJ and genuinely believe he has a place in this league.

Also, why would Malcolm be expendable as our best "true" MIKE?   Wouldn't that be Mack and about 3 other linebackers before we even get to Malcolm's number?

[Zombo]

5 hours ago, tiamat63 said:

Maybe it's just me, but I fail to see the upside in the running back room that Felton brings over DJ?   Maybe a little more lateral agility at best, but as a pure ball carrier I'm just not seeing it.   I like DJ and genuinely believe he has a place in this league.

Also, why would Malcolm be expendable as our best "true" MIKE?   Wouldn't that be Mack and about 3 other linebackers before we even get to Malcolm's number?

Agreed with both.

Z

[SdBacker80]

On 6/30/2021 at 9:56 AM, Tour2ma said:

Browns Roster: 5 veterans who could be pushed off roster by 2021 draft picks

5. Mack Wilson - article says he became a "fan favorite"... ... otherwise it's a good read.

4. Hodge - return an OBJ, draft a Schwartz... doesn't leave much room.

3. Redwine - Safety room got crowded fast as well...

2. D'Ernest - with 90+% of the work going to two guys and a draft pick backing them up, the writing is on the proverbial wall.

1. Malcolm Smith - only real surprise name, but when JOK develops he becomes expendable... nice mid-season trade candidate for draft pick.

 

Mack don’t let the door hit ya.  He seemingly has problems in two areas that are essential to an LB-  Effort and tackling. Ive got a Browns player each year that is so easy to pile on...Njoku, Callaway in the past Mack has held that label now for two seasons.  And Redwine doesn’t seem to have the instincts for the position. After that we have hard decisions.  

Hodge may a number causality.  But he’s a 3/4 on most teams.

Derenst Johnson he stays.  I saw enough God given talent and ability that he’s a great depth piece. Squint hard and you see Kamara (don’t laugh)

 I watch some UCLA ball usually it’s late night against some PAC12 team allegeric to playing D.  Demetric Fenton is not getting to DJs production level this year.  He’s a Great WR out of the backfield good kick return guy.  Great 7th round pick.  Nice burst.  He doesn’t have Derenst Johnson wiggle or vision between the tackles.  If we need someone to be RB1/RB2 I want it to be DJ.

Malcolm is a vet who played well in a SB on a young team with a bunch of guys that have watched the SB.  He stays too.