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11 hours ago, Tour2ma said:
Duly noted that the so-called conservatives here can't wait to see a bill of over $2-trillion dollars passed with few strings attached.... little oversight...
Including Hundreds of billions handed to Treasury Secretary Munchkin to dole out at his discretion... no oversight... not even any reporting of how it's used for 6 months.
Not all that long ago $780 billion was outlandish...
I have some concerns about this stimulus. I would have less concerns if we were running a 23 trillion dollar surplus instead of a 23 trillion dollar debt. This is all borrowed money on the credit card (that is already maxed out), This is more debt burden being left for our younger generation to inherit. I am very concerned about our debt problem and our inability to bring it down.
The democrats piling on doesn't make it any better,
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What? You're not volunteering for trumpy's new Soylent Green premature economic recovery program for old farts? OBF has risen to the challenge!! 👴☠️👻😇☁️
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Secretly I knew Mrs. OBF wouldn't let me volunteer anyway....🙂
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7 hours ago, calfoxwc said:
A FEW STRINGS? Have you seen the list? of course not. It's substantial.
"Liberal special interests
The 1119-page bill is Christmas in March for liberal special interests. It imposes racial and gender pay equity provisions, diversity on corporate boards, increased use of minority-owned banks by federal offices, and a grab-bag of other diversity-themed requirements. It increases the collective bargaining power for unions and cancels all the debt owed by the U.S. Postal Service to the U.S. Treasury. For the global warming crowd there are increased fuel emission standards and required carbon offsets for airlines, plus tax credits for alternative energy programs. For the kids there is a provision for student loan payment deferment, and for the education bureaucrats who overcharge them a $9.5 billion giveaway to colleges and universities. It gives $100 million to juvenile justice programs, and suspends various aspects of enforcement of immigration laws.
Perhaps the most troubling sections of the bill are under the rubric ‘‘American Coronavirus/COVID–19 Election Safety and Security” or ‘‘ACCESS” Act. This section would impose requirements on states for early voting, voting by mail, required mailing of absentee ballots to everyone, ballot harvesting (i.e., having third parties deliver absentee ballots), online voter registration, same-day registration and other practices which undermine confidence in the integrity of the ballot. In these days of increasing threats to election security we should be moving rapidly back to in-person paper ballots, but this bill would be a radical step in the wrong direction.
It is hard quickly to root out whatever other aspects of this bill bear no relationship to COVID-19, but to its backers that is the point. We can’t really know what’s in it until they pass it, to paraphrase Speaker Pelosi on another such memorable occasion.
The politics of the Democratic proposal are not hard to figure. Democrats are concerned that the Coronavirus crisis could be a “9/11 moment” for President Trump, that people might put aside partisanship for a moment to rally around a leader trying his best to help the country cope. "
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"a few" YEESH. That's sad.
Oversight? the democrats adding their wish list to this bill (that has nothing to do with the coronavirus) is not oversight. It is following the democrat playbook of never letting a crisis go to waste.
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Democrats Are About to Hate Mitt Romney Again
https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/03/23/democrats-are-about-to-hate-mitt-romney-again/
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Just now, TexasAg1969 said:
Are you volunteering for the hit list OBF?😇
I would myself.
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1 minute ago, TexasAg1969 said:
Meanwhile trumpy is talking about getting people back to work within 15 days while his medical advisors are saying the worst is not here yet. Seems like there is no monopoly on idiocy in either party,
It may get to the point where the cure is worse than the disease. What the medical experts are wanting may lead us into another Great Depression.
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13 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:
the left holding the needy American people hostage for more power in return.
I hope the republicans don't cave. If we truly are in an crisis emergency they should pass a clean bill that focuses on the coronavirus. Looks like they had worked at a deal until Pelosi came back to DC and blew it up. No doubt following the democrat playbook of never letting a crisis go to waste.
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Dem Rep. Told Colleagues Coronavirus Bill Is ‘Tremendous Opportunity to Restructure Things to Fit Our Vision’
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Canadian Doctor Rigs Ventilator to Treat Nine Patients Instead of Just One
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Russia and China flood web with coronavirus outbreak lies blaming U.S.; State Dept. fights back
State Department combats China's attempt to reshape narrative, blame Washington
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/15/coronavirus-lies-pushed-china-blame-virus-us-biowe/
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20 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:
I'm not saying the Dems aren't at fault for anything. Politicians across the board suck. I'm sure they're thinking about how this affects them in November.
But do you really just believe Red State and McConnell at face value? You don't think it's possible there's anything else going on? You don't have any inclination to question what's in that article at all?
This was in the article. This is from a liberal writer at the NY Times. She obviously believes politics is guiding at least some democrats instead of focusing on the good of the country.
Some Dems are betting that Trump will he received as Bush post-Katrina as opposed to Bush post-9/11. And there’s a split among Dems about how they ought to be handling Trump in this moment, which so far has ended up benefiting the president.Speaking of the (unbiased) NYSlimesTimesWatch: NY Times Headline Evolves, as It Spins Dems Blocking Virus Relief Bill that Would Help Americans-
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3 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:From my sister: "Stay inside, practice social distancing and clean yourself constantly.......................OMG I've become a cat!"🙀
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Senate Democrats filibustered a procedural vote to end debate on the phase 3 Wuhan virus relief bill on Sunday. This came after negotiations had agreed to a framework bill, one which gave Democrats almost everything they wanted.
Apparently, Nancy Pelosi, who had taken the weekend off, came back into town and blew up the process. There’s also disagreement going on within the Senate Democrat caucus about how much to work with Trump during this crisis. Some see this as the chance to tar him the way they did former President Bush after Hurricane Katrina.
These are decisions being made purely on aspirations of political gain.
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The real reason China has had no new cases.
Report: China Stopped Testing for COVID-19. That's Why There Are Zero New Cases.
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Nail salons, hair salons, waxing centers and tanning salons all closed.
It's about to get ugly out there.
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I can tell you one effect of the new order.The grocery stores in our area right now are getting overwhelmed even more than before. A friend of mine sent me a photo of our Walmart and the shelves were really barren.
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6 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:
Once again an opinion piece is just that...
I knew the "Obama lie" would surface sooner or later. Even tho it would be odd for you to blame Obama for that statement, but not the website rollout.
I knew when I first heard him say the "If you like... you can keep" line that it was not true. I knew there were shitty policies that people liked "out there" that were not going meet the standards of the Bill. But a purposeful lie? I couldn't go that far... at least not without more info.
Then I read reports that Obama was livid at being told something by his cabinet that was not true. While reports of an extremely angry President are common today, that was not the case with "No-drama"...
Then ultimately BO took the blame for the rollout and the misinformation in true "buck stops" style. That's the kind of thing that builds credibility with me... even in cases with those I disagree.
However in cases where an individual whose misleading half-truths, exaggerations and outright lies total approaches 17,000 ducks taking responsibility for failures... well... then I tend to be a little more critical.
That said... if you need to label this isolated instance a "lie", be my guest
There is not just one instance of lying although that whopper of a lie by Obama was voted the lie of the year.
Obamacare Architect: Yeah, We Lied to The "Stupid" American People to Get It Passed.
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1 minute ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:
This isn't much different than what is happening now.
It doesn't seem to be so I wonder what the point of DeWine issuing it?
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1 minute ago, Tour2ma said:
Sarcasm duly noted...
Ken Starr started investigating Clinton in August, '94 and it ran (in various directions) for five years. House impeachment hearings took about 1-1/2 months... trial about a month and was over in Feb, '99 so it preceded the flu outbreak you mockingly offered... which of course was a honest to goodness flu. The trial also preceded Clinton's 2020 National Emergency declarations addressing West Nile outbreaks. However, the time period did see the OKC bombing and a good chunk of the war in Bosnia.
But, no, there was no comparable epidemic during those Clinton years... thank God... but in addition to the above there are many signs of governing including working across the aisle on legislation with those calling all the while for his impeachment.
On the other hand the House Judiciary Committee's investigation and Impeachment hearings into Trump lasted five months and trial lasted about 3 weeks.
Bill was pretty good at multi tasking. He even found some bonus time with Monica Lewinsky at the White House.
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'Stay at home' order issued in Ohio
https://www.wsaz.com/content/news/Stay-at-home-order-issued-in-Ohio--569010251.html
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15 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:
Actually the selected contractor (CGI Group) failed Obama, so not quite the same thing... but then Silicon Valley did come and pull Obama's ass out of the fire. Another thing however that's not quite the same... the number of lost lives the ObamaCare delay caused. Admission of that possibility is one I can make knowing you can't take it up without making the argument that ObamaCare saves lives.
Nevertheless kudos to you for not hanging the failure directly on Barrack. Woody's reply concerned others who still hang that one on him. No better example than cal, who again gives you thanks for posting something with which he at least in part disagrees.
Obamacare has been a failure just as the Obamacare roll out was a failure.
But just as a quarterback gets too much of the blame for a team loss, Obama was not responsible for the disastrous roll out. Obama was responsible though for lying to get Obamacare passed.
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30 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:
There are facts and then there are relevant facts...
The travel ban Executive Order (EO) issued on January 31st is relevant as a good start, but it was half-baked at best. It excluded Hong Kong and Macau and it exempted all returning US nationals. It called for neither the testing nor quarantining of either group. It ignored South Korea where the first cases were confirmed days before the EO was issued.
But it appears as if you knew the above already...
https://cis.org/Arthur/Dr-Fauci-Trump-China-Restrictions-Slowed-Spread-Wuhan-Flu
And Trump's travel ban proved to be wiser than those like Joe Biden and other democrats who called him racist for doing it.
Then there is the issue of what was done during what time even the incomplete "ban" bought us...
Impeachment remains a complete strawman unless you are arguing that Trump can't handle more than one issue at a time... an argument to which you might find me being surprisingly receptive.
By contrast Clinton governed while he was being impeached. Thought you'd want to know that.
Strawman lol...I'm glad Clinton got us out of the world wide flu pandemic of 1999 while still being able to battle Ken Starr
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The MSM bias is real and provable.
Just one example. In the impeachment coverage of Trump the nightly news ran 100 percent negative coverage of Trump's defense team.This is not reputable news. This is terrible "journalism" based on partisanship.
https://bongino.com/medias-trump-coverage-now-100-negative-during-impeachment-hysteria/
Democrats Decide Getting the Orange Man Is More Important than Saving Lives
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From what I know about the bill the republicans can at least argue that what they are wanting relates to the coronavirus which is the whole reason for the bill. The add ons the democrats are wanting have nothing to do with the purpose of the bill. They are Christmas wish items they couldn't get passed on their own so they add them to this emergency bill. I hope the republicans do not cave to their blackmail.