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That's a straw man argument. Whoever claimed the OL should be able to give BM 5 seconds per pass play? No one did. The worrisome indicator is no holes for the rushing game. 70 yards rushing won't get it done vs. decent teams. 3 yards per carry won't do it. Let's see if they can beat the Rams with 3 ypc and net of 70 yards rushing. Maybe some of the shortcomings was due to play calling.

A "W" by week 2? How do you even know how to feel? Some fun play last night (and some concerning as well). OBJ and Garrett were phenomenal; OL and Baker not as much. Yes, NY was missing a load of players and down to, I don't know, their 4th string QB? I have some friends who honestly think the Browns are now set for a Super Bowl run....ummmm, maybe pump the breaks with that talk. I was confident in beating NY, but the Rams? They are a legit contender. Let's see how they handle those guys. If they beat them, then that is saying something. On a side note, why does Cam Newton dress like your great Auntie?

Panic move

Yea dude, it wasn't that long ago that anything was better than 0-16, or 1-15, or 3-13. It's still a win, who cares if it's vs a 4th string QB.

Yea, well sell yourself on whatever fantasy you wish, but don't expect others to buy into them. A legit coach would have tossed AB off the team a long time ago, he is a cancer and is probably why the Steelers missed the post season last year. Tomlin is an enabler. He acts like players buddy instead of like a head coach. Underachieving most seasons. A legit coach would have done better in the playoffs with that much talent. All Tomlin is good for is twirling his headset cord and pounding on his chest. Fraud. Just like Hue.

This could end up being a blessing in disguise for Browns fan. I have a sneaking suspicion Tomlin will squeak out 6-8 wins and then will be lauded as "having his best coaching season ever" (because he lost his Hall of Fame QB, and Bell and AB) and then get a new deal for 3 more years. What should be feared is a total tank job, where they sweep the whole thing clean. As long as Tomlin is there you can assume it will be a team with no accountability or much discipline. Remember one year when the Steelers laid some eggs vs. awful teams, and Tomlin's big move was to take away ping pong privileges in the locker room (but only to the rookies, at least at first?) That was his big "butch up" moment and his version of "cracking the whip."

Those who live in glass houses...............we do have Kareem Hunt on this team. And let's not forget the owner isn't a choir boy either.

Yea, I'm not sure why everyone is celebrating this. This takes away the Browns' chance to finally get some payback on Ben. He's 23-2-1 vs Cleveland. Wouldn't you have like a few years of payback, where the Browns beat him for, say, like 4 games straight or something. Also, I feel celebrating others injuries is bad karma. I would think beating Pitt with BB would be much more satisfying....and sans the bad karma, which has plagued this team ever since they chased Paul out of town, but definitely since the late 80's. "Live clean, white man from town, live clean." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxY8Jqx6oes

And that half their team is hurt, including their starting QB.

We don't have a clear cut favorite. Since we have NFL Ticket, we don't go out anymore but may have some grub delievered, or, may make some grub at home, it all depends. Among the things we like on game day: Order out pizza, wings and/or subs. Make burgers, cheese steaks, nachos, cold cut subs, chicken, etc. at home. Miller or Bud light.

Not only that, he was a good K/P returner, but not one of the best ever. No way he even sniffs the HOF.

Not a threat anymore. Now his current team (Jets) and former team (Fins) are the teams you threaten players with trading there. Jets could salvage somewhat of a season, when they get players back from injury, but they could still end up as a basement team. They won't get Darnold back for 3 weeks. Lots of other key players will not play this game. https://www.newyorkjets.com/team/injury-report/ 24-13 Browns

Yea, Fins are rubbish, but everyone was assuming Jackson wouldn't be able to pass the ball....................whoops. He did. The rookie Brown takes the top off Ds, and add that to a team who can rush and play great D, and you got a force. I wouldn't say Balt. O is in the same class as KC, but their D is definitely better than theirs. And I'm not sure Dallas is elite, just because they bet a terrible NY team. I think in Dallas we are looking at a 10-6 type of team, maybe wins one playoff game like last year.

Soooooo, Balt. and KC are chopped liver?

Only 2.5? Wow. I assumed it would be closer to 7, with all the key injuries for NY.

TREVOR SIEMIAN, Browns gotta win this one

Browns win easy, but then here comes back all the over-hype which hurts them like in week 1. OBJ is really gonna want to excel with the game being in NYC. He wants to make the fans sorry he was traded out of NY, even though this isn't the team who did it. Jets secondary is terrible. Bakes should rip it to shreds. I'm gonna say, Browns 24, NY 13.

This is a slam dunk win. If they can't beat this team, with all these players out, who can they beat?

Such a lucky break for the Browns. And Jets have no WRs to speak of and Bell is hurt. This is as guaranteed win as they come.

Not panic. But get focused. 18 flags is loco.

That's nearly 4 decades ago. I really don't see how it applies to now.

I appreciate you for not just freaking out and going all panic. But...you still think this is a 13-3 team? Hey, it's your right to believe how you wish, but I find 13-3 pie in the sky. So you see 13 wins vs. the rest of the opponents? @NYJ, coin flip. Could win. Rams - doubt it @Ravens. Doubt it. Could easily be a blow out. @9ers. Could win. Seattle. Possible win. @Pats. LOSS, they are better than they have been in a long time. @Broncs. Should win Bills. Could win, but they seem like they are improving. Steelers. Could win. Fins. Now _there's_ a win. @Steelers - probably an L Bungals - W @Cards, I'm gonna say an L Ravens - L @Bungs - who knows I see more like 8 wins, not 13

Is Freddie over his head?

It's called less, you are right. But it's still in the book. As long as it is, there will be some plays where the whistle is blown early, it will happen. The QB looks like he can't get away, but then does.