BaconHound Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 I can't wait for this. How they spin this going forward is going to be so fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 you are just a low-class ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Spin what? It was a game close to the very end with a rookie QB just elevated from the practice squad last week. Nothing much to spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Here's how they'll spin it: first year coaches first year system added a lot of talent improved from 4-12 to 7-9 next year we'll be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Spin what? It was a game close to the very end with a rookie QB just elevated from the practice squad last week. Nothing much to spin. 7-9 playing the weakest schedule in football and when it mattered a complete collapse. Manziel a joke Week 17 benching key players/draft picks cause they don't show up on time Could go on but you watched, I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 you are just a low-class ass. Hope you enjoyed today, real fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 7-9 playing the weakest schedule in football and when it mattered a complete collapse. Manziel a joke Week 17 benching key players/draft picks cause they don't show up on time Could go on but you watched, I think So you're saying that the players shouldn't be held accountable? They should just show up whenever they want? Dont' show up on time, bench their ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 So you're saying that the players shouldn't be held accountable? They should just show up whenever they want? Dont' show up on time, bench their ass. No they should be benched but what does it say about the control of the organization when your top offensive weapon, supposed QB & DB of the future could care less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 7-9 playing the weakest schedule in football and when it mattered a complete collapse. A complete collapse starting rookies, UDFA's and 3rd string players at almost every level of the offense and defense. Manziel a joke Can't argue there Week 17 benching key players/draft picks cause they don't show up on time Players must be held accountable for their actions. This sends a message not only to the player, but the team as well. Don't like it? Tough shit. Could go on No, you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 7-9 playing the weakest schedule in football and when it mattered a complete collapse. A complete collapse starting rookies, UDFA's and 3rd string players at almost every level of the offense and defense. Manziel a joke Can't argue there Week 17 benching key players/draft picks cause they don't show up on time Players must be held accountable for their actions. This sends a message not only to the player, but the team as well. Don't like it? Tough shit. Could go on No, you can't. Defense can't stop the run Bad special teams Lack of size/talent in key offensive positions QB controversy without a decent one to be had According to everyone on here, not me, horrible OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 It's mind boggling. How can your two first round draft picks be more disappointing. Manziel has no integrity, discipline or class. Throwing a party the night before practice. What were they celebrating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Pettine just said he wouldnt talk about the "3" today because it would be disrespectful to the guys wearing the uniform today... tough words about those guys...sounds very pissed and indicated they wouldn't let them on the field today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Defense can't stop the run Until the last couple carries, defense did a fine job against the run today. That's with a guy signed 6 weeks ago and 2 practice squad players. Bad special teams Great coverage teams, return? Questionable. Not having a reliable body to field them hurts. Lack of size/talent in key offensive positions Such as? QB? That's about it. QB controversy without a decent one to be had There was no controversy. Controversy would imply the backup out-performing the starter. Clearly, couldn't be further from the truth. According to everyone on here, not me, horrible OC Horrible? No... but he makes questionable decisions from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Defense can't stop the run Until the last couple carries, defense did a fine job against the run today. That's with a guy signed 6 weeks ago and 2 practice squad players. Bad special teams Great coverage teams, return? Questionable. Not having a reliable body to field them hurts. Lack of size/talent in key offensive positions Such as? QB? That's about it. QB controversy without a decent one to be had There was no controversy. Controversy would imply the backup out-performing the starter. Clearly, couldn't be further from the truth. According to everyone on here, not me, horrible OC Horrible? No... but he makes questionable decisions from time to time. You can survive with one Gabriel/Hawkins/Benjamin on the WR crew but not 2 or 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 I'm sorry but Bacon Hound is right. Haslam gets paid Billions. Farmer millions. We are just assholes with opinions that don't fucking matter.They had all the time in the world to evaluate these guys before the draft and interview them, go to their pro day, scout them, etc and this is the best they could do. Haslam whiffed on Chip Kelly. Haslam whiffed on Chud. Haslam whiffed Harbaugh. We got Pettine who I like and want to keep and deserves to be the coach here for at least 2 more years. That 1st round was a fucking meltdown and Haslam and Farmer are accountable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 The "3". Gordon, Manziel, Gilbert. Hopefully we shitcan all of them and let some other team worry about their lack of motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 The "3". Gordon, Manziel, Gilbert. Hopefully we shitcan all of them and let some other team worry about their lack of motivation. my guess is that JFF and Gordon go......Gilbert gets another year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 The "3". Gordon, Manziel, Gilbert. Hopefully we shitcan all of them and let some other team worry about their lack of motivation. Like it or not they need the talent Josh Gordon has. I hate to say it cause he's a fuckhead and is one bong hit from the bench but they need talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 The "3". Gordon, Manziel, Gilbert. Hopefully we shitcan all of them and let some other team worry about their lack of motivation. + 1. They ALL should be let go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Like it or not they need the talent Josh Gordon has. I hate to say it cause he's a fuckhead and is one bong hit from the bench but they need talent Gordon sucks. Fuck his talent. He didn't how me shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Like it or not they need the talent Josh Gordon has. I hate to say it cause he's a fuckhead and is one bong hit from the bench but they need talent He played 14 games last year and 5 this year, and the Browns record is 5-14 in those games. His talent hasn't helped the team get any better,and his off field crap isn't worth keeping him IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 No they should be benched but what does it say about the control of the organization when your top offensive weapon, supposed QB & DB of the future could care less? We knew before the season that Gordon doesn't give a shit and I think he'll be gone after the season. Gilbert gets another year and I'd like to see us trade Manziel for whatever we can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Gordon sucks. Fuck his talent. He didn't how me shit. C'mon Man He maybe a fuckup but he's a tall fast fuckup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 We knew before the season that Gordon doesn't give a shit and I think he'll be gone after the season. Gilbert gets another year and I'd like to see us trade Manziel for whatever we can get. They will be lucky to get a 6th rounder for Johnny. Every team has seen him suck on the field and they all know what he is off of it. He might go down as the worst 1st round pick in Browns history. And that's saying A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 When we lined up Gabriel, Hawkins & Benjamin it looked like a High School team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 If I were Pettine I would insist that all 3 be traded for whatever draft picks he can get towards continuing to rebuild the Browns. I suspect at least Farmer is on the same page. All 3 were given more leeway than the rest of the team combined and they all 3 screwed it up themselves with their self centered behavior. There is no "I" in TEAM. Trade them all. Bring in some Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkside5 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 + 1. They ALL should be let go Agree, Gordon is just an idiot. Goodbye Johnny Football you've just been replace by "Connie Football" Gilbert is guilty by association. Birds of a feather flock together. GO BROWNS ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 When we lined up Gabriel, Hawkins & Benjamin it looked like a High School team you weren't saying that shit when the browns were winning, real fan. just pick moments in time when you think people don't remember what you say, come back rearrange your whole stance and act like you know what the fuck you are talking about now. you're a joke. a bad one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 He might go down as the worst 1st round pick in Browns history. And that's saying A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What really sucks, is that there isn't a person on this forum that can argue against that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 you weren't saying that shit when the browns were winning, real fan. just pick moments in time when you think people don't remember what you say, come back rearrange your whole stance and act like you know what the fuck you are talking about now. you're a joke. a bad one. Dobbs Ferry must be out of MD 20/20. Not saying that Benjamin, Hawkins and Gabriel deserve to be cut tomorrow but the NFL requires that you have bigger receivers and those three are tiny. They won't win 50/50 balls and they showed that today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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