Bob806 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 If that's true, then that is an absolute crappy deal and mankok is a huge 0-1. Trading a play-making, committed, 80-catch-a-year Pro bowl tight end for a third round pick ... What the ****? Zombo Take a deep breath...what commitment? The "me me" stuff is not a commitment. He was hardly a factor last season (yes, not all his fault). He wanted to renegotiate for "lost $$" after ONE good/great season (2007)...he lost that $$ because he violated a simple contract clause (stay away from motorcycles). NEVER has he been a TEAM player. I hope I'm right, and you're wrong, we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadWombat Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I can't believe there's people thinking we'd get Tampa's first round pick for K2. Excuse me if I forget to shed a tear for him. He was a great player but had way too many problems with injuries, ego, and whatnot. Tampa radio saying we got a 3rd and 7th what a crock mankok is stupid lets give braylon away for a 7th if we can that is... What the hell??? Even I think he's worth more than that. Mangina... what the hell were you smoking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 So they trade Brady Quinn's favorite receiver and biggest supporter on the team? This must all be posturing to drive up DAs trade value, no doubt. Um, BE was supporting Quinn as much as Winslow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Schefter said Unconfirmed...2nd this year 5th next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irishman Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Take a deep breath...what commitment? The "me me" stuff is not a commitment. He was hardly a factor last season (yes, not all his fault). He wanted to renegotiate for "lost $$" after ONE good/great season (2007)...he lost that $$ because he violated a simple contract clause (stay away from motorcycles). NEVER has he been a TEAM player. I hope I'm right, and you're wrong, we'll see. Unfortunately it is you that is wrong. He was a hell of a team player. Just curious... what do you on sundays in the Fall ... because you aren't watching Browns football. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade. Why not? Thats a hell of a lot better than a 3rd and 7th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoth Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade. I love Winslow but that's pretty decent trade value for a guy who won't play into his 30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Schefter said Unconfirmed...2nd this year 5th next year... what would a 5th rounder next year accomplish? we could have at least gotten a 2nd this year AND next year if we were going to split the picks up. we might as well have traded him for a 2nd rounder this year, a bag of balls and a new pair of cleats. however i do have to say that we got good value for him with the second round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Beat ya still unconfirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefjerky Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade. well, this makes the pain much less worse than a 3rd and 7th, at least there is a good chance we can get someone good in the 2nd round. that being said, im still pissed off and nothing good will probably come out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicopee John Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 From ESPN: ESPN.com news services The Cleveland Browns have traded tight end Kellen Winslow to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for undisclosed draft picks. "We appreciate his passion for the game and wish him success in Tampa Bay," Browns general manager George Kokinis said in announcing the move. "The draft picks we have obtained through this deal will give us greater flexibility as we look to infuse more talent and create competition and depth on this football team." Dammit, I liked K2. It sounds like we got multiple picks, we better use them wisely. The Pats seem always to have an abundance of draft picks. The current organization is part of the Belichick / Patriots group. I imagine they got multiple picks across a couple of years. Good way to build around the core that is already here. I say good move!! PS What does this do to the FA and draft stragegy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadWombat Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade. I'll take that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade. Much better than the 3rd and 7th rumor ... but still weak, IMO. Oh well, it's their team, and they know more about running an NFL team than I do, that's for sure. I hope we use that 2nd rounder extremely prudently. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 well, this makes the pain much less worse than a 3rd and 7th, at least there is a good chance we can get someone good in the 2nd round. that being said, im still pissed off and nothing good will probably come out of this. Jasper Brinkley and shonn Green....that would be good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
next2nothing Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Schefter said Unconfirmed...2nd this year 5th next year... If that's it then we got the bad end of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicopee John Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 If that's true, then that is an absolute crappy deal and mankok is a huge 0-1. Trading a play-making, committed, 80-catch-a-year Pro Bowl tight end for a third round pick ... What the ****? Zombo Although I said that I like the deal in principle, I assumed a 1st rounder. Maybe a #1 next year? I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Unfortunately it is you that is wrong. He was a hell of a team player. Just curious... what do you on sundays in the Fall ... because you aren't watching Browns football. Zombo Let's see, been a fan since 1970, so I think I'm pretty qualified to have an opinion on Browns football, just like you and others around here. I just don't insult people and blow my own horn........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Although I said that I like the deal in principle, I assumed a 1st rounder. Maybe a #1 next year? I hope so. Now way they'd ever get a 1st for Winslow in any way, shape, or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Now way they'd ever get a 1st for Winslow in any way, shape, or form. If he had never ridden a motorcycle maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefjerky Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Jasper Brinkley and shonn Green....that would be good! I've actually been a fan of shonn greene because my friend plays for the hawkeyes, he said he has great work ethic and is a smart player, greene also didnt have a game last college football season under 100 yards. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=160849 that being said, I think someone will swipe him up before us, at least currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Let's see, been a fan since 1970, so I think I'm pretty qualified to have an opinion on Browns football, just like you and others around here. I just don't insult people and blow my own horn........... You are totally free to believe he was not a team player. I just curious how you arrived at that opinion. Because if i had to make a list of our best team players, he would have been near the top. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 If that's it then we got the bad end of the deal. I am on the fence...depends what K2 does over the next two years. On the face I'd have liked a #2 this year and #3 next...I think that would have been a fair deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 If he had never ridden a motorcycle maybe... Oh, for sure. Of course in that world, CLE probably isn't trading him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaak Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I just had a thought… What if it was Winslow AND our #5 For Tampa’s #19, next year’s #1, and their #5 this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB&J Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Winslow, Faine, Antonio Bryant all buccaneers. In a matchup between the Browncos and Browncaneers who do you think wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPB Dawg Fan Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 We now have the following 1st Day: Rd 1: #5 Rd 2: #37 Rd 2: #50 That is a pretty nice first day. If we can add another 2nd for DA...this can go a long way to shoring up this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I just had a thought… What if it was Winslow AND our #5 For Tampa’s #19, next year’s #1, and their #5 this year? what? where is this coming from. maybe the browns were able to get the bucs next 100 draft picks. that would probably help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 ManKoK is remaking the team in their image. I don't think they have any sympathy toward existing players at all. They have an image and they are going to get the players that fit their image. Which means we're probably going to stockpile picks. Existing players=quitters They gave up last year and anyone who remains should feel lucky. Winslow was a punk! Goodbye and good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 When you say "undisclosed picks" that usually means "there's no first-rounder." Make no mistake about it - we're dumping this talented cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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