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And now, because gay marriage was voted on to be allowed, your life is ruined. Right?

 

Was that the point I was making Woody or was the point I was making that the democrats get liberal ideologues nominated to the Supreme Court while the republicans put up candidates some times who are less than conservative to keep from having to battle in the senate to get confirmations? So now the democrats have 4 extreme left liberals on the bench. I give them credit. That is their right and Obama emphasizes that point all the time that elections have consequences. The republicans cave in again on supreme court justices and it is just another reason I am leaving the republican party. There should be at least 5 solid conservatives on the bench right now as the republicans had their opportunity to appoint them to the bench but took the easy way out to avoid tougher senate confirmations.

 

I am not going to complain about the 4 liberal democratic appointed justices but I will complain about the missed opportunities for republicans.

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Ok. Sure. Dems are bullies and the poor old Reps just want to play fair.

 

 

 

But why use gay marriage as an example? How has that ruined your life?

 

There is a reason Trump is surprising the republican elites who don't seem to understand the base have gotten the message that the republican establishment are not fighting for principals they say they believe in.

 

Civil unions were the answer and not gay marriage. I would say the Christian baker who had a $135,000 dollar judgment against him by a liberal judge for not baking a wedding cake for a gay couple had his life turned upside down.

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So it is bad for people that don't follow laws?

 

You're only reason is that people will ignore laws because they don't like it, then try to hide behind religious views to support their discrimination.

 

 

ok cool...

 

 

 

What is biased assholes were allowed to refuse service to any gay person (but not blacks or anything, that would clearly be wrong...), would you be ok with it being legal then?

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So it is bad for people that don't follow laws?

 

You're only reason is that people will ignore laws because they don't like it, then try to hide behind religious views to support their discrimination.

 

 

ok cool...

 

 

 

What is biased assholes were allowed to refuse service to any gay person (but not blacks or anything, that would clearly be wrong...), would you be ok with it being legal then?

 

If you want to believe that than I know you are against federal funding of sanctuary cites. You know those cities that refuse to follow and ignore federal law...oh yeah instead of hiding behind religion these libs hide behind political correctness huh?

 

Ok...cool

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You seemed to have just changed the subject.

 

 

Don't worry, I was't expecting much. I just wanted to see with that went, and it ended up basically where I expected it to go.

 

There has never been a decent reason posted on here for why gay marriage should be illegal. In the past it was BS horror stories about kids turning gay and our moral structure decaying. Now the worry is that small business owners won't be allowed to discriminate... I mean hide behind religious beliefs.

 

At the end of the day it always comes down to "gays are gross and I don't like them". Nothing more. I feel like this was no exception.

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You did ask for reasons that it should be illegal which I don't know that anyone has ever suggested.

 

Was that someone else and I am mistaken?

 

WSS

 

I've mentioned gay marriage as an example when making a larger point before. Another poster will then go on about gay marriage. I'll respond. Then I'll be called out for bringing it up.

 

Here I wasn't the one that originally brought it up. But since it was, I commented on it. Now here, I am still the one called out for bringing it up.

 

 

It seems like some posters on here will do whatever it takes to attempt to insult me, regardless if it makes sense or not.

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I've mentioned gay marriage as an example when making a larger point before. Another poster will then go on about gay marriage. I'll respond. Then I'll be called out for bringing it up.

 

Here I wasn't the one that originally brought it up. But since it was, I commented on it. Now here, I am still the one called out for bringing it up.

 

 

It seems like some posters on here will do whatever it takes to attempt to insult me, regardless if it makes sense or not.

 

I posted that gay marriage was passed in the supreme court due to one republican nominated justice, Anthony Kennedy who voted with the four liberal democratically appointed justices. That is a factual statement.

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I posted that gay marriage was passed in the supreme court due to one republican nominated justice, Anthony Kennedy who voted with the four liberal democratically appointed justices. That is a factual statement.

I've got nothing against you bringing it up.

 

 

Mean Girls Steve is just trying to insult me. Nothing new

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The fact that someone is voting across party lines should be indication enough that it's a serious issue worthy of non-partizan consideration....Chris

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No, the "conservative justice" voted for gay marriage, because

he has a gay sister.

 

Sound like partisan consideration to me.

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Meanwhile, the baby parts selling/"donations" is going to be

investigated officially, since the OBAMAO REGIME has agreed

it must be done.

 

so, there ya.

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/22/obama-admin-agrees-probe-fetal-tissue-research/

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Filmmakers who targeted Planned Parenthood face charges

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35405636

 

A Texas grand jury has cleared Planned Parenthood of misconduct after the abortion provider was accused of selling [fetal] body parts for profit.

 

Instead, the panel charged the filmmakers behind the accusations with tampering with government records.

 

The Center for Medical Progress (CMP) secretly filmed videos that caused an outcry and prompted efforts to withdraw Planned Parenthood's federal funding.

 

CMP founder David Daleiden was also charged with buying human organs.

 

It is legal to accept reimbursement for the costs of providing tissue, but the videos depicted tissue donation as a marketised area where illegal trafficking in organs was distorting abortion practices - something the grand jury did not accept was happening.

 

"We were called upon to investigate allegations of criminal conduct by Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast," said Devon Anderson, the prosecutor who is now in charge of the case.

 

"As I stated at the outset of this investigation, we must go where the evidence leads us."

 

Planned Parenthood is a non-profit group that provides reproductive health services to mostly lower-income Americans. Some of its clinics perform abortions.

 

In some videos, Mr Daleiden and members of the Center for Medical Progress pose as medical researchers from a fake company called BioMax, and discuss buying [fetal] tissue from Planned Parenthood staff.

 

In one, Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood's senior director of medical research, tells the filmmakers that abortion doctors can adjust their methods to leave organs intact.

 

"We've been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I'm not gonna crush that part, I'm gonna basically crush below, I'm gonna crush above, and I'm gonna see if I can get it all intact," Ms Nucatola said in the video.

 

The CMP accused Planned Parenthood of "barbaric" partial-birth abortion procedures to allow it to profit from illegally trafficking organs, but critics said the videos were heavily edited in an effort to discredit Planned Parenthood.

 

Planned Parenthood has also revealed that it ignored earlier "disturbing" approaches by BioMax offering to pay the "astronomical amount" of $1,600 for [fetal] organs.

 

Mr Daleiden and fellow activist Sandra Merritt each face a felony charge of tampering with a governmental record, which carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison. No further details were provided by prosecutors.

 

Mr Daleiden also faces a misdemeanour count related to purchasing human organs.

 

Democrat-Republican clash

In a statement, he defended the actions of the CMP, saying it "uses the same undercover techniques that investigative journalists have used for decades".

 

Planned Parenthood said it charged small fees to process the [fetal] tissue donations and did not profit from the exchanges. The group stopped charging the processing fees when the video controversy erupted.

 

Republican members of Congress pointed to the videos as they sought to ban federal funding for Planned Parenthood. Democrats have stopped those efforts and President Barack Obama has promised to veto any bill that stripped the healthcare provider of funding.

 

Eleven states, including Texas, launched investigations after the release of the videos. Nine have determined Planned Parenthood did nothing wrong. The inquiries have yet to finish in Arizona and Louisiana.

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Well, if Texas said PP did nothing wrong I doubt either of the two remaining will.

I highly doubt it too, but that hasn't deterred some of the Don Quixote's in the GOP from wasting millions of taxpayer dollars to continue to fund their crusade against their giant windmill-dragon

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