MLD Woody Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Camp Douchebag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State 59 Just goes to show that velocity and accuracy and competency are far different matters. Right. It's only one measurement. Being able to only throw a ball hard would make a good pitcher, but the mental and mechanical side of things is just as important for QB. Still, there seems to be a threshold of ability needed to be successful. Mid-50 MPH arm strength is a good benchmark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Right. It's only one measurement. Being able to only throw a ball hard would make a good pitcher, but the mental and mechanical side of things is just as important for QB. Still, there seems to be a threshold of ability needed to be successful. Mid-50 MPH arm strength is a good benchmark I wonder how fast Dan Marino and John Elway threw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Couple names that surprised me to the low side...Bryce Petty, Baylor 53Joe Flacco, Delaware 55This one surprised me high...Kirk Cousins, Michigan State 59 Dang. A football at 60 MPH? I never would've thought those things are flying that fast. Seems like I remember Favre registering something like 63... mentioned in some random MNF conversation along with a conversion to throwing a baseball. Right. It's only one measurement. Being able to only throw a ball hard would make a good pitcher... It didn't in Wheezy's case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Seems like I remember Favre registering something like 63... mentioned in some random MNF conversation along with a conversion to throwing a baseball. It didn't in Wheezy's case... I would love to know what Duante Culpepper clocked on the velocity meter. Back in 1999 our resident UCF Alum\ Pumper swore he saw Duante throw a ball 90 yards in the air during practice. For that matter, me being the resident Couch pumper- it was reported Tim could toss a ball through the goalposts from the 50 yard line- on his knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Remember when he broke those clay pigeons though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 So anyway today Tony Grossi was prattling on about the Browns getting closer and closer to trading that number two pick. The idea being you get more pics and maybe one of the middle of the pack quarterbacks would be good enough thanks to the possible Resurrection of RG3. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 So anyway today Tony Grossi was prattling on about the Browns getting closer and closer to trading that number two pick. The idea being you get more pics and maybe one of the middle of the pack quarterbacks would be good enough thanks to the possible Resurrection of RG3. WSS And that may be a viable plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 And that may be a viable plan. Depending on how good the third fourth or fifth best quarterback turns out to be. I wouldn't mind seeing Connor Cook succeed because he's in Ohio guy, same thing with Cardale Jones, but like my page I don't have a good feeling. Besides Gipper Grossi wasn't talking about taking Bosa. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 So anyway today Tony Grossi was prattling on about the Browns getting closer and closer to trading that number two pick. The idea being you get more pics and maybe one of the middle of the pack quarterbacks would be good enough thanks to the possible Resurrection of RG3. WSS Grossi flips more than a fish on land. Stick to the best option for your future. Their is no substitute for the Goff/Wentz Plan. We have 9 more picks. Haslem should not force Hue on any 2nd hand QB decisions just for a couple wins. Bite your own bullet you built Jimmy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 I have a gut feeling that trading back is going to be the Brown's first option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 At least drop a few spots and if one of the QBs is there, consider yourself lucky. Decent chance they will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Grossi flips more than a fish on land. Stick to the best option for your future. Their is no substitute for the Goff/Wentz Plan. We have 9 more picks. Haslem should not force Hue on any 2nd hand QB decisions just for a couple wins. Bite your own bullet you built Jimmy.. I don't think he's giving his opinion he's telling what he thinks the Browns are leaning toward week after week. He thinks that's changed with the acquisition of Robert Griffin the Turd. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 So anyway today Tony Grossi was prattling on about the Browns getting closer and closer to trading that number two pick. The idea being you get more pics and maybe one of the middle of the pack quarterbacks would be good enough thanks to the possible Resurrection of RG3. WSS More predraft hot air- I doubt Grossi has any inside sources. At least drop a few spots and if one of the QBs is there, consider yourself lucky. Decent chance they will be. Our "luck" is having the #2 pick. Goff or Wentz WILL be there for the Browns. If Hue considers them franchise quarterback worthy- we're taking one of them. I'm getting damn tired of trusting to "luck". The last time we traded down, we bypassed Kalil Mack. Time before that, we bypassed Julio Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Depending on how good the third fourth or fifth best quarterback turns out to be. I wouldn't mind seeing Connor Cook succeed because he's in Ohio guy, same thing with Cardale Jones, but like my page I don't have a good feeling. Besides Gipper Grossi wasn't talking about taking Bosa. WSS Clearly not if a trade down occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Grossi flips more than a fish on land. Stick to the best option for your future. Their is no substitute for the Goff/Wentz Plan. We have 9 more picks. Haslem should not force Hue on any 2nd hand QB decisions just for a couple wins. Bite your own bullet you built Jimmy.. Some think that the Goff/Wentz plan IS a 2d hand QB decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 More predraft hot air- I doubt Grossi has any inside sources. Our "luck" is having the #2 pick. Goff or Wentz WILL be there for the Browns. If Hue considers them franchise quarterback worthy- we're taking one of them. I'm getting damn tired of trusting to "luck". The last time we traded down, we bypassed Kalil Mack. Time before that, we bypassed Julio Jones. Excellent point. We need an all star at that #2 slot. Many of you think one of those QBs is it. I don't know, but if that is the way the Browns go, I hope you are all right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 If Hue considers them franchise quarterback worthy- we're taking one of them. Seeing a lot of these Hue references lately... When did Hue become GM? And do folks realize it was his GM moves that got him bounced out of OAK? He did have that title out there... officially... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Seeing a lot of these Hue references lately... When did Hue become GM? And do folks realize it was his GM moves that got him bounced out of OAK? He did have that title out there... officially... Picking up Carson Palmer wasn't that bad. Sashi is going to trade down until we have every pick in the seventh round. Hey- they're cheap, with lots of potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Sashi is going to trade down until we have every pick in the seventh round. Hey- they're cheap, with lots of potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedawg69 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I would be willing to take a chance on cook in the 4th or 5th round but not before. He has many things that need much correcting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I would be willing to take a chance on cook in the 4th or 5th round but not before. He has many things that need much correcting. I don't know what round would be right for him. That said, despite playing through some injuries - has he been less consistent than Kirk Cousins was there during the span he was their starter? A throwing arm can look pretty weak especially if one is playing through an injury driving that. Also keep in mind when there's a lot of Ohio State homerism going on - some of this guy's biggest critics could have been in the "Fail for Cardale" Camp that had their wet dream ended like a loud alarm clock early on in the 2016 regular season. Cook has flaws but I don't know that any are absolute show stoppers especially if the same dummy that drafted the Tom Brady nobody on the planet had much interest in is willing to repeat history. At the time, NE already had Bledsoe employed so they could be patient enough to have Brady wear blue jeans to his first 15-16 NFL games while he was taking BB's advice about getting stronger in the weight room. Brady was the 2nd most popular QB on the Michigan Campus to the guy formerly known as the Freshman Sensation so it's really pretty amazing how much things can change over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Gip your Cookie Boy is gonna get a chance to show his stuff. Connor Cook named starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Gip your Cookie Boy is gonna get a chance to show his stuff. Connor Cook named starter I would have been OK with Cook instead of Kessler. Correct me if I am wrong, but Cook was available when the Browns took Kessler, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I would have been OK with Cook instead of Kessler. Correct me if I am wrong, but Cook was available when the Browns took Kessler, no? Yes, Cook and Prescott were sitting there. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Remember how the cowboys wanted Cook then settled for Prescott? Man I wish we could luck into some players like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Remember how the cowboys wanted Cook then settled for Prescott? Man I wish we could luck into some players like that. LOL! Luck? All that to do is come here and see Dak was being touted by several of us. Only dumb would apply to our FO, not luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 LOL! Luck? All that to do is come here and see Dak was being touted by several of us. Only dumb would apply to our FO, not luck. Sure. There are enough blind monkeys here that anyone who turns out decent will have had some fans. But the Brady argument applies - if the Cowboys knew how good he would have been do they wait until the fourth round? Instead of maybe using their high second round pick on Jaylon Smith? I doubt it. They thought he could be decent and turned out to be a lot better for them. I'm saying - when did that last happen for us? What day 3 pick has become an instant starter and rookie of the year candidate at anywhere close to as important a position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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