sisky fringo Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Who was satisfied with Manziel's play this year? Even by the numbers they weren't even close to McCown's.... i won't be satisfied even if they win 10 Super Balls so of course i wasn't satisfied. were you satisfied with McCown? how about his durability? their numbers weren't that far apart either. Josh passed for more yards and Johnny set franchise rushing records behind a patchwork OL. drama or not Davis and Shaw aren't even worthy of carrying Johnny's jockstrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Rumor has it he's well liked among some other players. Who knows? There will always be an element that likes his fun personality and "celebrity", but as is the case here, they will mostly be young guys... or old farts in a skirt... put anyone under a microscope... lo-fuckin-l... frisky... dude... you have to be Helen fuckin' Keller at this point to not see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisky fringo Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 lo-fuckin-l... frisky... dude... you have to be Helen fuckin' Keller at this point to not see... guess i'm just a sucker for an underdog. ? i hope we keep him to back up McCown as he mentors Goff. it's like a kid challenging a babysitter. some quit, others push through it and find a way. and once you figure out how to manage him (seems like an "atta-boy" to me as opposed to a "tough love" you can threaten) he could be all they hoped and more. honestly, how much trouble could he really cause 3rd string? what's the worst that could happen? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Jaylon Smith apparently tore his ACL & MCL. He might consider returning to college? Both? Damn... but to go back? Kid needs follow the Magahee PLan: hire Rosenhaus and come out. Pink font Tour!! Would if I could, but browser won't cooperate... ---> pink <--- Well I'll be... it's back! Just made my day... <--- was going to be pink, but now not working again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimpdaddy Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 LOL! To those who just want to hack & cut, move to Cut & Shoot Texas (Home of Roy Harris, once beaten in the 50's by reigning heavyweight champ Floyd Patterson in the 13 round). You have to be unemotional when it comes to a business decision and JM's future most definitely is a business decision for the Browns. What is the cost of cutting if he is picked up by another team vs. what is the cost of trading? Does the new coach want to retain him? The new analytics guys can work with the new coach and new GM to figure out exactly what to do about Billy. Hopefully this time Jimmy stays completely out of the decision making on ALL players, including JM. ...He's made a mockery of the organization and the team and has flipped the byrd at authority. End this clown show. The punk is a huge distraction and its humiliating...his actions say he wants out. Personally I'd let him ride pine on the practice squad if that is an option, ala RG3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Whoever the first pick is, I hope we see an overall draft strategy that builds around him to maximize his chance for success. If we pick Goff, then we'd better pick a wide receiver for him to throw to with the next pick. An offense with Goff, Josh Gordon, Josh Doctson, Barnidge, Crowell and Duke sounds like it could score some points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 guess I'm just a sucker for an underdog. honestly, how much trouble could he really cause 3rd string? what's the worst that could happen? lol.... fair enough... His distraction impact is too great, IMO, and greatly outweighs any chance of a resurrection. The next of which I believe signals the end of days anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy07 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Agree... would also not be surprised to see an announced intention to start McC ala JAX and Bortles. But when ready McC sits... Even tho that approach clearly ruined JM... JM ruined JM, not any way in which he was handled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkid3 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Pictures are already out. That idiot looks like Justin Timberlake in those dick in a box videos. And he's holding a beer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter48 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 There are no pictures and espn has not provided the video they said they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 If you don't have haters you're doing it wrong. Manziel is going to be a Maniac next season with some actual recievers, ala the best in the game, Josh Gordon. If the Browns can find another TE and develop Pryor some more, add in Benjamin if he resigns and land a god damn FB... you can pretty much count on a playoff berth. Manziel had one game that he wishes he could have a couple throws back, but what can you do when your only receivers are 5 foot tall. All this Manziel hate just oozes from jealousy. Why don't you guys talk about somebody who deserves some hate, I don't know, maybe like Dwayne Bowe. That guy got more money in one season doing nothing than Manziel is going to make his entire rookie contract. Get off his fucking nuts. Gawd. Manziel is going to be and should be the Starting QB next year, get used to it. If you don't like it... find another team to root for. Support your fucking QB. Everybody wants to take shots and Manziel is an easy target, hope that bogus vegas story got lots of hits and made the faggot who made it up a nice chunk of change. Don't believe everything on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Anyone talk to Phil yet ? phil mccracken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 If you don't have haters you're doing it wrong. Manziel is going to be a Maniac next season with some actual recievers, ala the best in the game, Josh Gordon. If the Browns can find another TE and develop Pryor some more, add in Benjamin if he resigns and land a god damn FB... you can pretty much count on a playoff berth. Manziel had one game that he wishes he could have a couple throws back, but what can you do when your only receivers are 5 foot tall. All this Manziel hate just oozes from jealousy. Why don't you guys talk about somebody who deserves some hate, I don't know, maybe like Dwayne Bowe. That guy got more money in one season doing nothing than Manziel is going to make his entire rookie contract. Get off his fucking nuts. Gawd. Manziel is going to be and should be the Starting QB next year, get used to it. If you don't like it... find another team to root for. Support your fucking QB. Everybody wants to take shots and Manziel is an easy target, hope that bogus vegas story got lots of hits and made the faggot who made it up a nice chunk of change. Don't believe everything on the internet. Ok mr. Manziel apologist.....How do you explain this hero of yours not showing up, as required by the team, at 9am Sunday morning and not returning phone calls all day to the point that the (at the time) head coach and owner had no idea where he was??? Is that story made up too? How about last year at the end of the season when once again he failed to show up on time for a required team event and the team had to go wake his sorry fucking ass up? That's the kind of guy you want leading your team? Let's hear how you explain away those two things.....but you are right...if he's the starting QB of the Cleveland Browns next year, I just might find a new team to root for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 JM ruined JM, not any way in which he was handled Been here long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Would dropping JFF now help with head coach recruiting? It seems to me that knowing you didn't have to deal with his bullshit ahead of time would be a good thing. Not being assured he is being cut is the same as asking someone to come in and be a circus ringmaster instead of coach. What say you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 It seems to me that knowing you didn't have to deal with his bullshit ahead of time would be a good thing. Not being assured he is being cut is the same as asking someone to come in and be a circus ringmaster instead of coach. What say you? Depends on the coach..... An assclown like Chip Kelly might like to be partnered up with another assclown in Johnny shitshow. I'm hoping we hire a guy who wants no part of this dweeb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 If you don't have haters you're doing it wrong. Manziel is going to be a Maniac next season with some actual recievers... All this Manziel hate just oozes from jealousy. Why don't you guys talk about somebody who deserves some hate, I don't know, maybe like Dwayne Bowe. Manziel is going to be and should be the Starting QB next year, get used to it. If you don't like it... find another team to root for. Support your fucking QB. Don't believe everything on the internet. He was a maniac this season... just not on the field. The jealousy card is really, really old... Clearly you have not been paying attention. Won't be... shouldn't be... I wouldn't... I won't... I will and his name will be McCown. Your post is a great place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I'd say no, not in advance of the HC hire, I but would tell the HC candidates who make a second round of interviews that JM's fate would be his decision. Might even tell them all that in the first round. It would be more likely to leak, but who gives a fuck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 We don't have to dump him for nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 We don't have to dump him for nothing we might though... RGIII wants to play in Dallas as well. Who would you take? Johnny shitshow or the guy who kept his mouth shut and played on the scout team in practice all year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 we might though... RGIII wants to play in Dallas as well. Who would you take? Johnny shitshow or the guy who kept his mouth shut and played on the scout team in practice all year? If I'm Jerry, I take Johnny. I'm an idiot...remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 If the Titans draft Tunsil then Bosa. Then Zeke Elliot, Then Cardale Jones, wide receivers galore in the next four rounds! There is absolutely zero bias in this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 we might though... RGIII wants to play in Dallas as well. Who would you take? Johnny shitshow or the guy who kept his mouth shut and played on the scout team in practice all year? Well we can gauge interest anyway. Something is better than nothing. I do think jerrah would prefer RG3 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Make-Believe Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 we might though... RGIII wants to play in Dallas as well. Who would you take? Johnny shitshow or the guy who kept his mouth shut and played on the scout team in practice all year? Does RGIII not cost exponentially more? Or is he just a FA now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 RG3 will be an FA as soon as WSH makes it official that they don't want to pick up his $16mm, one-year option... It's an interesting debate as to which one to take, but I actually would not be surprised if Jerrah nabbed them both. Neither should be that expensive to land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 https://www.etsy.com/listing/262713309/st-billy-vegas-johnny-manziel-cleveland I cannot stop laughing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiswhere Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Does RGIII not cost exponentially more? Or is he just a FA now? They picked up his option for 2016 for $16 mil. It is only guaranteed if hes injured. I don't see anyone trading for him with this contract but also don't see the Redskins paying a backup that kind of money either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 lol... and in plenty of time for my daughter's birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 If you don't have haters you're doing it wrong. Manziel is going to be a Maniac next season with some actual recievers, ala the best in the game, Josh Gordon. If the Browns can find another TE and develop Pryor some more, add in Benjamin if he resigns and land a god damn FB... you can pretty much count on a playoff berth. Manziel had one game that he wishes he could have a couple throws back, but what can you do when your only receivers are 5 foot tall. All this Manziel hate just oozes from jealousy. Why don't you guys talk about somebody who deserves some hate, I don't know, maybe like Dwayne Bowe. That guy got more money in one season doing nothing than Manziel is going to make his entire rookie contract. Get off his fucking nuts. Gawd. Manziel is going to be and should be the Starting QB next year, get used to it. If you don't like it... find another team to root for. Support your fucking QB. Everybody wants to take shots and Manziel is an easy target, hope that bogus vegas story got lots of hits and made the faggot who made it up a nice chunk of change. Don't believe everything on the internet. man are you on some good drugs....you need to call lil chonnie and have him join in....you can become drug bro's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Correct... they did pick up the 2016 option. I got that wrong. But since he was not injured during 2015, the option year is no longer guaranteed. So he can be cut without cost to the Redskins and that will be the end of the $16MM price tag. I think this starts on March 15th this year, but must be done no later than June 1st. Earlier this year, the Washington Redskins exercised an option to sign quarterback Robert Griffin III for the 2016 season. And in the upside down world of NFL contracts, that move essentially ensured that he'd be benched or cut in 2015. Here's why it works out that way: The $16.2 million for 2016 is not guaranteed -- unless the injury-prone RG3 gets injured. No injury, and the Redskins can cut him loose. Riding the bench, of course, is the best way to keep him healthy. http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/01/news/companies/rg3-contract/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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