flyingfooldoug Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 On point 3, I read this as the NFL is blacklisting GW from a HC job league wide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 https://www.cleveland.com//browns/2019/01/cleveland-browns-so-much-has-changed-in-a-year-no-one-has-to-jump-in-lake-erie-terry-pluto.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 https://www.cleveland.com//browns/2019/01/if-the-cleveland-browns-dont-hire-gregg-williams-should-the-cincinnati-bengals-terry-pluto.html Another story today. Tell me how badly that would suck! Especially when our new head coach goes 2 + 6 Of course Cincinnati has a broken-down jalopy of a team compared to the bright shiny new Browns WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 I Believe that the new QB was in someone’s ear about the horrible practice sessions that hue held. Williams immediately changed that. Good practices resulted in some sweet cherry flavored KoolAid and a winning football program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 This you do not see very often in the press or in the media: CLEVELAND, Ohio -- I’ll start with a confession: My dumbest story of the year was suggesting the Browns NOT fire Hue Jackson after the team lost 33-18 in Pittsburgh on October 28. The story was not written out of any admiration for Jackson. My main point was a bias against interim coaches........ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~● Good for Pluto coming right out with that. Now is Williams a slam dunk no-brainer -or- does someone else have or should have a legitimate shot at the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Along those same lines. Anybody that lean toward the quote nfl-ready unquote or prototype size guys I think are happily eating a bowl of crow. https://www.cleveland.com//browns/2019/01/cleveland-browns-i-was-wrong-about-baker-mayfield-terry-pluto.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 I like it that Dorsey uses his eyes, ears and gut instinct on players. He’s earned his stripes. Time to use em. He’s no five year plan guy either. He’s planning on winning the division 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 57 minutes ago, flyingfooldoug said: I like it that Dorsey uses his eyes, ears and gut instinct on players. He’s earned his stripes. Time to use em. He’s no five year plan guy either. He’s planning on winning the division 2019. All the more reason not to restructure winning combination and start over. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 And this morning https://www.cleveland.com//browns/2019/01/cleveland-browns-coaching-search-how-it-looks-so-far-and-what-about-dan-campbell-terry-pluto.html WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: And this morning https://www.cleveland.com//browns/2019/01/cleveland-browns-coaching-search-how-it-looks-so-far-and-what-about-dan-campbell-terry-pluto.html WSS And Campbell is familiar with a six-foot-tall quarterback. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 From Terry: 8. While Williams has said he’s open to staying on the job, I’m not sure it’s a good idea. It would be hard for him to take a step back after his 5-3 record and strong showing as a head coach. Caldwell would be a relatively safe pick for the Browns, but I sense the Browns want more than “safe.”..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~● Wow, known "safe" commodity versus going outside for maybe a better long term fix. Tough decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, mjp28 said: From Terry: 8. While Williams has said he’s open to staying on the job, I’m not sure it’s a good idea. It would be hard for him to take a step back after his 5-3 record and strong showing as a head coach. Caldwell would be a relatively safe pick for the Browns, but I sense the Browns want more than “safe.”..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~● Wow, known "safe" commodity versus going outside for maybe a better long term fix. Tough decision. Not really. You have a guy that wins and the players respond to. You can afford to look hard with those aces on your hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, flyingfooldoug said: Not really. You have a guy that wins and the players respond to. You can afford to look hard with those aces on your hand It does give you the ability to look at anybody and everybody if you have a guaranteed fall back position. Feels like draft time again with all of the rumours and posturing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, mjp28 said: It does give you the ability to look at anybody and everybody if you have a guaranteed fall back position. Feels like draft time again with all of the rumours and posturing. but were not good at long dragged out things on this board 🤓..watch when the 1st good defensive coach goes or Zona calls Freddie back to HC?..Am taking that week off 🏝️ book it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 https://www.cleveland.com//browns/2019/01/cleveland-browns-scribbles-thinking-about-gregg-williams-freddie-kitchens-terry-pluto.html Regarding coach Williams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 13. Williams and Kitchens were thrown together after the firings of Jackson and offensive coordinator Todd Haley. In fact, Kitchens was hired by Haley. He was close to Haley. He didn’t know Williams very well. The fact the two men worked well together played a big part in Kitchens emerging as the head coach for 2019. Seems to be conflicting reports on “whose guy” Kitchens was. Too many chefs in Kitchens’ grill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 https://www.cleveland.com//browns/2019/01/cleveland-browns-talkin-the-big-challenges-for-freddie-kitchens-terry-pluto.html Today WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacosman Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 12/31/2018 at 7:32 AM, flyingfooldoug said: On point 3, I read this as the NFL is blacklisting GW from a HC job league wide lmao.....yeah just like the nfl is blacklisting me from a HC job too....thats why I dont have one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Tacosman said: lmao.....yeah just like the nfl is blacklisting me from a HC job too....thats why I dont have one! I take it you did not read his article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 .....6. The state of kicking in the NFL is shaky, especially since the move from about 20 yards to 33 yards for extra points. Joseph had a decent rookie year. But he doesn’t inspire much confidence in me. I was spoiled by Phil Dawson. By the way, Dawson will be 44 on Jan. 23. He was only 5-of-8 on field goals last year before being cut by Arizona. The Browns need to find the next Phil Dawson....... Strange how currently this is such a problem in the NFL with all of the NCAA players out there at all levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 51 minutes ago, mjp28 said: .....6. The state of kicking in the NFL is shaky, especially since the move from about 20 yards to 33 yards for extra points. Joseph had a decent rookie year. But he doesn’t inspire much confidence in me. I was spoiled by Phil Dawson. By the way, Dawson will be 44 on Jan. 23. He was only 5-of-8 on field goals last year before being cut by Arizona. The Browns need to find the next Phil Dawson....... Strange how currently this is such a problem in the NFL with all of the NCAA players out there at all levels. Seems simple tho. They just don’t want to pay kickers. Other than winning or losing ballgames, they have little value. Go figure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 https://www.cleveland.com//browns/2019/01/cleveland-browns-scribbles-how-baker-mayfield-changed-everything-for-freddie-kitchens-terry-pluto.html Todays scribbles WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 2. None of this happens unless General Manager John Dorsey and his front office select Mayfield with the No. 1 pick. Suppose they had taken my guy (Josh Rosen). Or they had taken the favorite of the draft experts (Sam Darnold). Or maybe picked Saquon Barkley, the running back from Penn State. 3. Barkley is a star with the New York Giants, but Pat Shurmur’s team won only five games with veteran Eli Manning at QB. Rosen had a miserable rookie year with the Arizona Cardinals. Darnold had a few nice moments, but he has a long way to go before being considered a viable long-term NFL starting quarterback....... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~● Oh how Dorsey and Mayfield helped prove a LOT of people wrong (me included). Can't wait for the 2019 draft and offseason moves....I can't believe I'm actually saying that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 hours ago, mjp28 said: 2. None of this happens unless General Manager John Dorsey and his front office select Mayfield with the No. 1 pick. Suppose they had taken my guy (Josh Rosen). Or they had taken the favorite of the draft experts (Sam Darnold). Or maybe picked Saquon Barkley, the running back from Penn State. 3. Barkley is a star with the New York Giants, but Pat Shurmur’s team won only five games with veteran Eli Manning at QB. Rosen had a miserable rookie year with the Arizona Cardinals. Darnold had a few nice moments, but he has a long way to go before being considered a viable long-term NFL starting quarterback....... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~● Oh how Dorsey and Mayfield helped prove a LOT of people wrong (me included). Can't wait for the 2019 draft and offseason moves....I can't believe I'm actually saying that. This is the very first off season that I have looked forward to the next season with genuine optimism since the late 80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjp28 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 6:06 AM, flyingfooldoug said: This is the very first off season that I have looked forward to the next season with genuine optimism since the late 80s. Now with just the SB LIII and the exhibition game formerly known as the Pro Bowl left I imagine many of us feel the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 hours ago, mjp28 said: Now with just the SB LIII and the exhibition game formerly known as the Pro Bowl left I imagine many of us feel the same way. WHAT super bowl? You mean the Ref Bowl? I'll be tying flies on Ref Bowl Sunday in preparation for this coming fishing season. Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 https://www.cleveland.com//browns/2019/01/cleveland-browns-thinking-about-snowstorms-nfl-playoffs-kelly-holcomb-and-hope-terry-pluto.html Didn't he have a line of BBQ sauce? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 This is something Browns fans have missed: A chance to sit and shiver through bone-chilling winter weather and watch their favorite team in the playoffs. Even if it means have yet another rotten Browns postseason memory. For the record, the Browns lost: 36-33. ........ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~● Ahhhh yes cold weather memories, we look forward to more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, mjp28 said: This is something Browns fans have missed: A chance to sit and shiver through bone-chilling winter weather and watch their favorite team in the playoffs. Even if it means have yet another rotten Browns postseason memory. For the record, the Browns lost: 36-33. ........ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~● Ahhhh yes cold weather memories, we look forward to more. My cold weather memory was November 27th my birthday I forget what year Cleveland Browns vs Los Angeles with Pat Haden after Joe Namath had been benched. Starting for the Browns was dr. Dave Mays oh, doctor bomb. Browns lost 9 zip and it was colder than Hillary's heart. Edit https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197711270cle.htm WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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