2021 Browns Depth Chart

[gumby73]

On 8/13/2021 at 7:09 PM, Zombo said:

Fields has missed too much time for a rookie, I would but him on IR before the season, thereby stashing him for the season and saving the roster spot.

Z

Keep in mind that reducing the roster size isn’t just through cuts. The Browns could place a qualifying player on injured reserve, but doing that now would make that player ineligible to return at any point in 2021.  A player has to go through final cuts and make the 53, then go on IR, if you want to bring him back during the season.

This is not setting up well for stashing any players... 

not only will most teams have to kick 3-5 players to IR likely at the 53 cut... but, they will want to jump in early to claim PS's & FA's at the same time to replace the IR'd..

Oh what GM fun ! ...   https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-roster-cuts-2021-deadline-rules-practice-squad/t4agmpiuyveo11wc540pj2knw

[Unsympathetic]

1 hour ago, Zombo said:

TE Carlson out

At least a roster spot is saved.. Going to be some rough end-of-roster ST decisions

[Zombo]

7 hours ago, Unsympathetic said:

At least a roster spot is saved.. Going to be some rough end-of-roster ST decisions

We still need a 4th TE. I don't know much about the other two guys, but Imagine the coaches will be looking hard at them as both TEs and ST ... and perusing the waiver wire too.

Z

[Zombo]

Carlson and WR Switzer to IR  ... OL Iwauagu, lb/s Meander and DB K. Thomas released ... I'll update depth chart ...

Z

[Zombo]

8/16/21 Projected Final Deptch Chart after first cuts:

QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, K. Lauletta

FB A. Janovich, J. Stanton

RB  N. Chubb,  K. Hunt,  D. Johnson, D. Felton, T. Harbison, J. Kelly

WR1  O. Beckham,  A. Schwartz,  J. Natson, D. Davis

WR2 J. Landry,  K. Hodge,  J. Ward ,A.Hollins, R. Switzer

WR3  R. Higgins, D. Peoples-Jones, J. Bradley

TE1 A. Hooper, D. Njoku, C. Davis,

TE2  H. Bryant , J. Franks,  S. Carlson

LT J. Wills,  J. Hudson A. Taylor,

LG J. Bitonio , B. Hance, A. Fabiano, C. Gossett

C J.Tretter , N. Harris, J. Patterson

RG  W. Teller ,  M. Dunn, D. Forbes, C. Iwuagwu

RT J. Conklin,  C. Hubbard , G. Senat

 

DE M. Garrett, P. Gustin, C. Malveaux, R. McNight

DT  A. Billings, J. Elliott, M. Wilson, D. Square

DT  M. Jackson, S. Day, T. Togiai, M. McDowell, 

DE  J. Clowney, T. McKinley,  J. Jackson , C. Weaver

MLB A. Walker,  T. Fields, J. Phillips,

WLB  J. O-K, M. Wilson, G. Obinna, 

SLB   S. Takitaki, M. Smith, E. Lee

CB D. Ward, A.J. Green, R. Jackson

CB  G. Newsome, G. Williams,  B. Allen, K. Thomas

Nickle  T. Hill,  MJ Stewart, E. Rugamba

Dime R. Harrison, M. Meander

FS , G Delpit, R. LeCounte,J. Moffat,

SS  J. Johnson, S. Redwine,  E. Benton

 

K  C. Parkey, C. McLaughlin

P  J. Gillan

LS  C. Hughlett

KR  (J. Natson)(D. Johnson) (D. Felton) (J. Ward)

PR  (J. Natson)(D. Peoples-Jones) (D. Felton) (J. Ward)

Risers:

RB/WR Felton had a good start and I see him making the team. He will probably replace Natson, but I am waiting to see if the Browns bring in a legit 4th TE before I cut Natson, I don't see Franks being the guy there.

-DT Sheldon Day continues to impress, right now I am riding with 5 DTs and Redwine is off my roster, because he's not helping himself being banged up.

Z

[SdBacker80]

Does Davion Davis make the team?  I was listening to Stefanski presser today...you get the sense that he likes Davis.  

Maybe it’s the small school connection he has with Stef.  Maybe it’s the fact he’s been on the roster for all but two weeks and makes plays.

Probably means bye Hodge and maybe Natson 

 

[tiamat63]

7 hours ago, SdBacker80 said:

Does Davion Davis make the team?  I was listening to Stefanski presser today...you get the sense that he likes Davis.  

Maybe it’s the small school connection he has with Stef.  Maybe it’s the fact he’s been on the roster for all but two weeks and makes plays.

Probably means bye Hodge and maybe Natson 

 

DPJ makes Hodge a likely cut.   Plus sized receiver who has caught some absolute absurdity thrown his way so far.

[TexasAg1969]

14 hours ago, Zombo said:

Carlson and WR Switzer to IR  ... OL Iwauagu, lb/s Meander and DB K. Thomas released ... I'll update depth chart ...

Z

No real surprises yet.

[Zombo]

On 8/16/2021 at 6:23 PM, Zombo said:

8/16/21 Projected Final Deptch Chart after first cuts:

QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, K. Lauletta

FB A. Janovich, J. Stanton

RB  N. Chubb,  K. Hunt,  D. Johnson, D. Felton, T. Harbison, J. Kelly

WR1  O. Beckham,  A. Schwartz,  J. Natson, D. Davis

WR2 J. Landry,  K. Hodge,  J. Ward ,A.Hollins, R. Switzer

WR3  R. Higgins, D. Peoples-Jones, J. Bradley

TE1 A. Hooper, D. Njoku, C. Davis,

TE2  H. Bryant , J. Franks,  S. Carlson

LT J. Wills,  J. Hudson A. Taylor,

LG J. Bitonio , B. Hance, A. Fabiano, C. Gossett

C J.Tretter , N. Harris, J. Patterson

RG  W. Teller ,  M. Dunn, D. Forbes, C. Iwuagwu

RT J. Conklin,  C. Hubbard , G. Senat

 

DE M. Garrett, P. Gustin, C. Malveaux, R. McNight

DT  A. Billings, J. Elliott, M. Wilson, D. Square

DT  M. Jackson, S. Day, T. Togiai, M. McDowell, 

DE  J. Clowney, T. McKinley,  J. Jackson , C. Weaver

MLB A. Walker,  T. Fields, J. Phillips,

WLB  J. O-K, M. Wilson, G. Obinna, 

SLB   S. Takitaki, M. Smith, E. Lee

CB D. Ward, A.J. Green, R. Jackson

CB  G. Newsome, G. Williams,  B. Allen, K. Thomas

Nickle  T. Hill,  MJ Stewart, E. Rugamba

Dime R. Harrison, M. Meander

FS , G Delpit, R. LeCounte,J. Moffat,

SS  J. Johnson, S. Redwine,  E. Benton

 

K  C. Parkey, C. McLaughlin

P  J. Gillan

LS  C. Hughlett

KR  (J. Natson)(D. Johnson) (D. Felton) (J. Ward)

PR  (J. Natson)(D. Peoples-Jones) (D. Felton) (J. Ward)

Risers:

RB/WR Felton had a good start and I see him making the team. He will probably replace Natson, but I am waiting to see if the Browns bring in a legit 4th TE before I cut Natson, I don't see Franks being the guy there.

-DT Sheldon Day continues to impress, right now I am riding with 5 DTs and Redwine is off my roster, because he's not helping himself being banged up.

Z

Updated with latest transactions and injuries ...

Z

[gumby73]

 

@Zombo  your 53 count is at 55 ^^

s	No.	Player 1	No	Player 2	No	Player 3	No	Player 4	No	Player 5
OFFENSE
LWR	80	Landry, Jarvis T/Mia	11	Peoples-Jones, Donovan 20/6		18 Davis, Davion SF21
RWR	13	Beckham Jr., Odell T/NYG	82	Higgins, Rashard 16/5	10	Schwartz, Anthony 21/3
LT	71	Wills Jr., Jedrick 20/1	66	Hudson, James 21/4
LG	75	Bitonio, Joel 14/2
C	64	TRETTER, JC U/GB	68 Dunn, Michael SF20
RG	77	Teller, Wyatt T/Buf	79  Forbes, Drew 19/6
RT	78	Conklin, Jack U/Ten	74	HUBBARD, CHRIS U/Pit
TE	81	Hooper, Austin U/Atl
TE	85	Njoku, David 17/1	88	Bryant, Harrison 20/4
QB	6	Mayfield, Baker 18/1	5	KEENUM, CASE U/Was
RB	24	Chubb, Nick 18/2	27	Hunt, Kareem SF19	30	Johnson, D'Ernest SF19	25	Felton, Demetric 21/6
		FB 31 Janovich, Andy T/Den
DEFENSE
LDE	95	Garrett, Myles 17/1	55 McKinley, Takkarist U/LV	94 Gustin, Porter SF19
LDT	97	JACKSON, MALIK CC/Phi	96	Elliott, Jordan 20/3
RDT	99	Billings, Andrew U/Cin	92	Day, Sheldon SF20	93	Togiai, Tommy 21/4
RDE	90	Clowney, Jadeveon U/Ten	91 Jackson, Joe W/Dal
SAM	44	Takitaki, Sione 19/3	52	Lee, Elijah W/Det
MLB	4	Walker, Anthony U/IND		56 SMITH, MALCOLM SF20
WLB		28 Owusu-Koramoah, Jeremiah 21/2
LCB	21	Ward, Denzel 18/1	23	Hill, Troy U/LAR	38	Green, AJ CF20
SS	33	Harrison, Ronnie T/Jax	35 Moffatt, Jovante CF20
FS	43	Johnson III, John U/LAR	39 LeCounte, Richard 21/5
RCB	26	Williams, Greedy 19/2	20	Newsome, Greg 21/1	36	Stewart Jr., MJ W/TB
SPECIAL TEAMS
PT	7	Gillan, Jamie CF19
PK	2	Parkey, Cody SF20  pending cuts
LS	47	HUGHLETT, CHARLEY P/KC
H	7	Gillan, Jamie CF19
PR		11 Peoples-Jones, Donovan 20/6	30 Johnson, D'Ernest SF19	25 Felton, Demetric 21/6
KR		25 Felton, Demetric 21/6	11 Peoples-Jones, Donovan	30 Johnson, D'Ernest SF19

 

CUTS/ *** Practice Squad and or gone

19	*** Natson, JoJo SF20

84	Bradley, Ja'Marcus CF20

83	Hollins, Alexander P/Min

00

Ward, JoJo SF21

 

60	Taylor, Alex CF20

72	Gossett, Colby SF19

62	*** Hance, Blake P/NYJ

could be Forbes?.. It's that coin-flip close !  

70	*** Senat, Greg SF21

 

87	Franks, Jordan SF20

40	*** Stanton, Johnny SF20

17	*** Lauletta, Kyle SF20

49	*** Kelly, John SF20

37	Taylor II, Corey CF21

 

00

Willie Harvey

59

*** Weaver, Curtis W/Mia

57

McKnight, Romeo CF21

65

*** Wilson, Marvin CF21

58	*** McDowell, Malik SF21

69	Malveaux, Cameron SF20

42	Fields II, Tony 21/5    IR

50	Phillips, Jacob 20/3   IR

25	*** Allen, Brian P/Cin

22	Delpit, Grant 20/2   IR

29	*** Redwine, Sheldrick 19/4

34	Jackson, Robert SF18

37	*** Rugamba, Emmanuel CF21

  41        M. Meander

3	McLaughlin, Chase W/NYJ

48	*** Benton, Elijah CF20

86	*** Davis, Connor SF21

Get what ya can..

51	Wilson, Mack 19/5

he's never even been Kirksey level..

53	*** Harris, Nick 20/5

berry won't have the balls.. but I do 🤓

12	*** Hodge, KhaDarel W/LAR

can't fault Felton or Davion Davis playing well

 

From what I'm seeing going into PS2 Giants ..

Unsettled number on defense.. mostly due to Quality OLine-men & RB's.. Could flip a 6th corner for a 5th Safety? even better a TE4..We'd hope to find better than.. Connor Davis/Redwine or Eli Benton 

[Zombo]

Ya, I've been working on 55, is it 53 again? I have no problem cutting two motherfuckers, I need to update it again anyway.

Z

[Zombo]

8/21/21 Projected Final Depth Chart before second preseason game:

QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, K. Lauletta

FB A. Janovich, J. Stanton

RB  N. Chubb,  K. Hunt,  D. Johnson, D. Felton,  J. Kelly, T. Harbison

WR1  O. Beckham,  A. Schwartz,  J. Natson, D. Davis

WR2 J. Landry,  K. Hodge, A.Hollins, R. Switzer,  J. Ward

WR3  R. Higgins, D. Peoples-Jones, J. Bradley

TE1 A. Hooper, D. Njoku, C. Davis,

TE2  H. Bryant , J. Franks,  S. Carlson

LT J. Wills,  J. Hudson A. Taylor,

LG J. Bitonio , B. Hance, A. Fabiano, C. Gossett

C J.Tretter , N. Harris, J. Patterson

RG  W. Teller ,  M. Dunn, D. Forbes, C. Iwuagwu

RT J. Conklin,  C. Hubbard , G. Senat

 

DE M. Garrett, P. Gustin, C. Malveaux, R. McNight

DT  A. Billings, J. Elliott, M. Wilson, D. Square

DT  M. Jackson, S. Day, T. Togiai, M. McDowell, 

DE  J. Clowney, T. McKinley,  J. Jackson , C. Weaver

MLB A. Walker,  T. Fields, J. Phillips,

WLB  J. O-K, M. Wilson, G. Obinna,  M. Meander

SLB   S. Takitaki, M. Smith, E. Lee, W. Harvey

CB D. Ward, A.J. Green, R. Jackson

CB  G. Newsome, G. Williams,  B. Allen, K. Thomas

Nickle  T. Hill,  MJ Stewart, E. Rugamba

Dime G. Delpit , R. LeCounte

FS  R. Harrison,J. Moffat,

SS  J. Johnson, S. Redwine,  E. Benton

 

K  C. Parkey, C. McLaughlin

P  J. Gillan

LS  C. Hughlett

KR  (D. Johnson) (D. Felton) (J. Natson)

PR  (D. Peoples-Jones) (D. Felton) (J. Natson)

Cutting Two Motherfuckers

I was told I needed to cut two Motherfuckers, I'd rather wait and see if we have any casualites after the Giants game, but I wll oblige:

The first one is easy: Jojo Natson. He adds nothing to the WR room and I think we have enough guys that can be good kick returners.

The second one is harder, because I haven't watched him play yet, I am just going by what you the BrownsBoard readers are reporting: Nick Harris. I had him as the heir apparent at C, but if he is gettign pushed around as reported, Dunn and Hance can back up for a year and we will reset the Center position next year. But I'll be watching tomorrow (maybe) to make my own observations.

Also, I know we are not keeping 5 DTs and only 3 TEs. I think we will bring a 4th TE in after the cuts, and if we can find away to shelve Toga Toga for a year, we will.

Z

[tiamat63]

19 minutes ago, Zombo said:

 

Also, I know we are not keeping 5 DTs 

Z

 

I'm going to stop you right there.  Last season this team kept, I believe either 6 or 7 linebackers on active roster?  I believe this year it will only be 5 max.     And after the Jags game I had pointed out that Woods had shown a couple fronts from his time in Denver that we didn't have the personnel for last season.     So, IMHO, it is incredibly possible if not outright likely we keep 5 bigs.  

[Zombo]

35 minutes ago, tiamat63 said:

 

I'm going to stop you right there.  Last season this team kept, I believe either 6 or 7 linebackers on active roster?  I believe this year it will only be 5 max.     And after the Jags game I had pointed out that Woods had shown a couple fronts from his time in Denver that we didn't have the personnel for last season.     So, IMHO, it is incredibly possible if not outright likely we keep 5 bigs.  

Ok, then I'm ahead of the curve.

Z

[SdBacker80]

I’m keeping Davis and losing Hodge

Stanton and Jackson make it too

[Unsympathetic]

Fields over Lee as the 5th LB aka ST player.

Could keep McDowell also and play 4 DT's occasionally to put the most athletic DL out there.. because who doesn't play goal-line defense at midfield.

[Zombo]

25 minutes ago, Unsympathetic said:

Fields over Lee as the 5th LB aka ST player.

Could keep McDowell also and play 4 DT's occasionally to put the most athletic DL out there.. because who doesn't play goal-line defense at midfield.

I'd love to keep Fields but he has a foot injury and hasn't seen the field, so I am assuming we are shelving him.

Z

[Orion]

Is Meander still cut?

[Zombo]

2 minutes ago, Orion said:

Is Meander still cut?

No, he meandered back onto the squad after the Phillips injury. But he does not make my Final 53.

Z

[Ibleedbrown]

With the multi-positional extended looks Stanton is getting l can’t help but think he’s being seriously considered for a roster spot. Maybe not necessarily over Janovich, but more as a replacement for Carlson.

[Unsympathetic]

I believe today they had Berry or depo in the booth commenting positively about Stanton during a couple of the plays he was flexed to the slot, made a good catch in traffic and added some YAC.

[blitzz2]

Greedy just can't stay on the field due to injuries. Anyone think we would be better off by just cutting bait? There will be surprise cuts, and sure there is a solid CB out there that can stay healthy. It's to bad.

[Orion]

23 hours ago, Zombo said:

he meandered back onto the squad

Well, today he wasn't able to Meander off the field as he had to be carted off.  Hope he's ok.  

#52, Lee showed up a few times.  And he showed toughness as he was dinged a coupe of times but was back in the game.

D'E showed well again.  Felton did fine when doing his thing...but he's an arm tackle when he's doing D'E's thing.

That little receiver guy, Davis...what are ya gonna do with him?  All he seems to do is make plays every week?  (Schwartz is hopelessly behind)

The bottom guys on the TE roster made plays today.  And what do ya do with Stanton?  Every week they throw to him and he produces.

 

[Zombo]

8 hours ago, Orion said:

Well, today he wasn't able to Meander off the field as he had to be carted off.  Hope he's ok.  

#52, Lee showed up a few times.  And he showed toughness as he was dinged a coupe of times but was back in the game.

D'E showed well again.  Felton did fine when doing his thing...but he's an arm tackle when he's doing D'E's thing.

That little receiver guy, Davis...what are ya gonna do with him?  All he seems to do is make plays every week?  (Schwartz is hopelessly behind)

The bottom guys on the TE roster made plays today.  And what do ya do with Stanton?  Every week they throw to him and he produces.

 

Ya, I added LB Lee to my roster last week. I noticed he had the green dot, defensive playcaller, on his helmet today, and he's a special teams ace.

My riser this week is probably going to be DE Joe Jackson, when no less than Joe Thomas is pumping you up as a rotational DE on National Television, you are doing something right. But we are waiting for the Takk McKinley mystery to unfold.

Z

[Orion]

14 minutes ago, Zombo said:

we are waiting for the Takk McKinley mystery to unfold.

Isn't THAT the truth!  No insider has got any clue on this guy?  Is he holed up in a log cabin somewhere?  

[SdBacker80]

2 hours ago, blitzz2 said:

Greedy just can't stay on the field due to injuries. Anyone think we would be better off by just cutting bait? There will be surprise cuts, and sure there is a solid CB out there that can stay healthy. It's to bad.

He’s probably the 5th best Corner on the roster.  

[Dutch Oven]

7 hours ago, SdBacker80 said:

He’s probably the 5th best Corner on the roster.  

He also was not drafted by this current front office, so.... 

[Zombo]

6 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

He also was not drafted by this current front office, so.... 

He was having a good camp and will have a role when he gets healthy.

Ward and Newsome will start outside and Hill inside. A.J. Green has a real chance to step up as the 4th corner while Greedy is out, but I expect Greedy will grab that Job when he's healthy.

Z

[Zombo]

Updated Depth Chart 8/23

QB B.Mayfield, C. Keenum, K. Lauletta

FB A. Janovich, J. Stanton

RB  N. Chubb,  K. Hunt,  D. Johnson, D. Felton,  J. Kelly, T. Harbison

WR1  O. Beckham,  A. Schwartz,  J. Natson, D. Davis

WR2 J. Landry,  K. Hodge, A.Hollins, R. Switzer,  J. Ward

WR3  R. Higgins, D. Peoples-Jones, J. Bradley

TE1 A. Hooper, D. Njoku, C. Davis,

TE2  H. Bryant , J. Franks,  S. Carlson

LT J. Wills,  J. Hudson A. Taylor,

LG J. Bitonio , B. Hance, A. Fabiano, C. Gossett

C J.Tretter , N. Harris, J. Patterson

RG  W. Teller ,  M. Dunn, D. Forbes, C. Iwuagwu

RT J. Conklin,  C. Hubbard , G. Senat

 

DE M. Garrett, P. Gustin, C. Malveaux, R. McNight

DT  A. Billings, J. Elliott, M. Wilson, D. Square

DT  M. Jackson, S. Day, T. Togiai, M. McDowell, 

DE  J. Clowney, T. McKinley,  J. Jackson , C. Weaver

MLB A. Walker,  T. Fields, J. Phillips,

WLB  J. O-K, M. Wilson, G. Obinna,  M. Meander

SLB   S. Takitaki, M. Smith, E. Lee, W. Harvey

CB D. Ward, A.J. Green, R. Jackson

CB  G. Newsome, G. Williams,  B. Allen, K. Thomas

Nickle  T. Hill,  MJ Stewart, E. Rugamba

Dime G. Delpit , R. LeCounte

FS  R. Harrison,J. Moffat,

SS  J. Johnson, S. Redwine,  E. Benton

 

K  C. Parkey, C. McLaughlin

P  J. Gillan

LS  C. Hughlett

KR  (D. Johnson) (D. Felton) (J. Natson)

PR  (D. Peoples-Jones) (D. Felton) (J. Natson)

Thoughts: Defensive Line is the most fluid situation. They act like McKinley is coming back soon and will resume his position ... but we are in the dark on that one. I gotta put Joe Johnson on the roster now and the DT talent may not be great, but it is deep. I can't justify keeping Toga Toga anymore, the other guys are out there making plays, hard to sneak a 4th round pick to the practice squad, so amybe he gets "injured". Elliot was out there in garbage time, but he did make a nice snack so they are probably not going to give up on their own draft pick.

A "guy named Blake" started at center, and that may spell the end for Nick Harris.

I'm still only carrying three TEs, so something is gonna give there, but I'm not adding fan favorite Johnny Stanton yet.

Z

[TexasAg1969]

59 minutes ago, Zombo said:

Updated Depth Chart 8/23d

I'm still only carrying three TEs, so something is gonna give there, but I'm not adding fan favorite Johnny Stanton yet.

Z

The key for Stanton is how good he is on ST coverage. Anyone know? Otherwise he may get parked on PS.