Unsympathetic Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Going with the initial asserted justification for Schwartz -- he does one thing better than everyone else -- that's simply not true comparing Wright to Leal. As with Clowney.. Leal is better setting the edge, better rushing the passer, more athletic -- in short, Leal is better at executing his position's role while playing the game of football. I'm (not) looking forward to Berry's answer/excuse/avoidance of this terrible decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 These are 2-3 year project type picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 historical profile wright NFL.com profile wright +1 on that, sd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 No comment until I've watched the film for myself. But I am leaning more towards the skeptical side at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, SdBacker80 said: These are 2-3 year project type picks. Doesn't say much for the Baker Mayfield trade value for picks does it. Teams know that they don't have to give up much for him. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: I am leaning more towards the skeptical side Alex Wright can take advice from none other than Curtis Weaver! Panthers just took Matt Corral - so Baker won't be heading there.. Let me guess: Bo Melton as a 4th round WR we'll take in the 3rd? He's good, sure, but.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Have no fear. berry drafts a punter next.😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Told you, Nick Cross - 3rd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Cade York K. easily be our best pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Faalele or Winfrey or Shakir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 on the clock...tic Yaayy! A WR. I can go to sleep now. Yay!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Bell!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, tiamat63 said: Bell!!! Ding! Ding! Ding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Finally a decent pick. Bet we still get a C or C- grade for the day though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Perhaps FactoryofSadness got one right -- Hill converts to safety rather than Emerson? Or perhaps Emerson is a replacement for Hill when Hill hits free agency and they don't offer. Hill&Greedy contracts are up after 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 The Bell pick is a Jarvis replacement. His size and combine measurements were favorable to Landry's. I had to check out Jarvis 40 time and he was at 4.77, and he was a second rounder with obj on the same team. If you watched Bell play the last few years, you know the dude can ball out and is a perfect ready to go slot wr. We still need a burner, but this was a great value pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Bell > Higgins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Bell > Higgins That's not saying much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Baltimore win the 2nd round...jesus. now if they just had a qb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Sporting News' assessment of Browns pick plus Leal in comparison. Pretty much follows what I thought with exception of a higher grade on Emerson that I thought he should get drafted where they got him. 68. Cleveland Browns (from Texans): Martin Emerson, CB, Mississippi State Grade: B The Browns needed a big, strong corner option to complement their other cover men given the size and strength challenges related to the AFC North wide receiver competition. 78. Cleveland Browns: Alex Wright, EDGE, UAB Grade: C The Browns got enamored with Wright’s immense raw explosive skills as a pass rusher, but he’s limited to a situational player until he can round out his game. His value was that of a mid Day 3 pick. 99. Cleveland Browns: David Bell, WR, Purdue Grade: A The Browns were smart to jump on wide receiver value to further boost Deshaun Watson’s targets away from Ameri Cooper. Bell has intriguing physicality, speed and quickness, making him an appealing after-the-catch and field-stretching burst option. 84. Pittsburgh Steelers: DeMarvin Leal, DT, Texas A&M Grade: A The Steeelers also catch a falling star who has some good inside pass-rushing pop to complement the rest of their strong options in their front seven, first as a situational rookie. My comment on the Leal vs Wright picks: Pitt was smart enough to understand that Leal's falloff in production this year was the fact the several inside DLs were suspended by A&M and he had to play inside his normal 5-tech position most of the games. That made him the guy who forced a lot of teams to double team him which allowed the others to put most of the pressure on QBs. Browns scouting should have picked this up. Fire whoever was responsible for that oversight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Apparently UAB played Georgia in 2021.. did Wright get picked because he had one good game vs Georgia's OL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Orion said: Understood....but can't we teach him how to concentrate on the ball or something? I mean, ya can't teach tall, fast and jump high... I'd spend/waste (who really knows here and now?) my 2nd round pick on him. Good point Orion This isn't aimed at you as much as it is at others - why are we spending all this time on the very last WR I listed ? I have nothing to do with where these guys are rated/projected so the ones I like best are mentioned in order of my preference from left to right. That list begins with David Bell and George Pickens as the 1st and 2nd WRs. As fate would have it, the Browns drafted David Bell in round 3. I've also brought him up in other draft threads. That's a really good selection for round 3 IMO. Apparently a team that never knows how to draft decent WRs after round 1 (ie; Davante Adams, Jordy Nelson, Donald Driver, Greg Jennings) traded up to #34 to draft Christian Scissorhands-Watson. Sometimes the best cure for a guy like Watson is an accurate QB putting together a HOF career like Aaron Rodgers. When a passer consistently puts the ball in places where it can't be dropped - one might be pleasantly surprised what it could do for a young WR's consistency (especially if they have their pitch and catch timing down which is a great cure for concentration lapses). That won't change our minds right now any more than we refused to open our minds up about Josh Allen in here pre-draft. "If he couldn't carry his team on a lesser level - how is he going to do this at a more competitive level" appeared to be the popular line of thought in here (that I was guilty of too). Teams aren't drafting rear view mirror. Just remember, there are guys like a Joey Galloway that can be much better professional players than they were in college. Another Ohio State WR with much better stats in the NFL than in college was Michael Thomas who had seasons with 149 rec and 125 rec with the Saints vrs his bests of 54 and 56 receptions at Ohio State. The difference? Drew Brees and style of offense. Sometimes you only have to ask the why and dig if you don't know it. What Michael DID have at Ohio State was an impressive 9 TD receptions in each of his last 2 years that showed the right shopper like Sean Payton this might be the perfect WR for him after round 1 at #47 overall. Payton didn't wait for hindsight 20/20 to giddy-up and get after that. Edited April 30, 2022 by Flugel 1 necessary correction and additional point 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 10 hours ago, tiamat63 said: @Flugel tall ass corner.... I know! We're getting stalked by Karma. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 16 hours ago, Riffer X said: Can't see him getting past da Bearce. The Bears went DBs first like we did. My neighbor was miserable about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 The Ravens definitely are killing it in this draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 The Nick Cross thing still bothers me. This team really could have used two safeties with matching skill sets on the backend (Cross & Johnny J) Watching Emerson now, and I see the talent. I just also don't see the need for THAT high + immediate fit. If you wanted a tall corner, you had one on roster that has shown promise - AJ Green. No thoughts on Wright of yet, I'll get around to him and all the picks at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: The Nick Cross thing still bothers me. This team really could have used two safeties with matching skill sets on the backend (Cross & Johnny J) Watching Emerson now, and I see the talent. I just also don't see the need for THAT high + immediate fit. If you wanted a tall corner, you had one on roster that has shown promise - AJ Green. No thoughts on Wright of yet, I'll get around to him and all the picks at some point. Bell was the only one I liked where we picked him. The other two......................blah. Later rounds for both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: Bell was the only one I liked where we picked him. The other two......................blah. Later rounds for both. Why would they let the Stools take Leal... Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! The first two picks are garbage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Two things. - The Baker to CAR rumors were squashed last night when they took Matt Corral. - Whoever propagated and believed the "ThE StEeLeRs WiLl PiCk Up BaKeR iF hE's CuT" .... you're retarded. That is a coaching staff that has actively talked shit on his abilities as a QB both on and off the field. I'm not sure if I mentioned this before, but if I had, I'm just reminding you and Kenny Pickett was the proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 14 hours ago, mjp28 said: Hell ya ! What's up syd ? i thought the emerson pick was kinda weird not that i dont like it just weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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