57,000 reasons why. and counting.

[MLD Woody]

Yes, it is an election year. Oh boy. Let the theatrics flow. Dance monkey, dance. 

 

What exactly is supposed to happen if I say Liken Riley's name? Are you saying the names of every child that's died to a firearm? You know, the actual leading killer of children. Not scary migrants. 

Thousands and thousands of people commit crimes every day. This and and thousands of migrants exist in this country without issue. One will commit a terrible crime and that's all you and others need to scream and get the fear mongering going. 

Fun election year stuff I guess

[Jax]

37 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Yes, it is an election year. Oh boy. Let the theatrics flow. Dance monkey, dance. 

 

What exactly is supposed to happen if I say Liken Riley's name? Are you saying the names of every child that's died to a firearm? You know, the actual leading killer of children. Not scary migrants. 

Thousands and thousands of people commit crimes every day. This and and thousands of migrants exist in this country without issue. One will commit a terrible crime and that's all you and others need to scream and get the fear mongering going. 

Fun election year stuff I guess

You realize they categorize teens as children in those stats. There are a shit ton of teen gang bangers, and a shit ton running loose in cities like Chicago that shoot each other constantly. Also, don't know if you realize, behind every firearm is a person, now I know lefties like to blame everything and anything except those directly responsible but, it's the person that owns the firearm or pulls the trigger that is the cause, not the firearm. Thankfully in this country, we don't strip away rights just because people have accidents or abuse their rights. If you want to say deaths are deaths, then look at driving. After all you are the one bringing in other comparisons so you can't cry about a different example. Driving is a privilege, it's not even a right yet why aren't you worried about kids in car deaths?? What about babies in abortion?? More fake rage.

Let's say you have a good point in gun deaths among kids, let's pretend for a moment. In no way does it take away from the fact we need to stop illegals from entering our country and deport ones that are here. It in no way diminishes the crime they commit while illegally in our country. This is why we call you the dumbass cult, cry about guns all you want but don't try to fuse a totally different topic into it. Seriously, are we supposed to all of the sudden forget about the illegal invasion and their crimes because we have other problems? Dumbass cult.

 

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/06/gun-deaths-among-us-kids-rose-50-percent-in-two-years/

Gun deaths are much more common among some groups of children and teens

In the U.S., some groups of children and teens are far more likely than others to die by gunfire. Boys, for example, accounted for 83% of all gun deaths among children and teens in 2021. Girls accounted for 17%.

Older children and teens are much more likely than younger kids to be killed in gun-related incidents. Those ages 12 to 17 accounted for 86% of all gun deaths among children and teens in 2021, while those 6 to 11 accounted for 7% of the total, as did those 5 and under. Still, there were 179 gun deaths among children ages 6 to 11 and 184 among those 5 and under in 2021.

For all three age groups, homicide was the leading type of gun death in 2021. But suicides accounted for a significant share (36%) of gun deaths among those ages 12 to 17, while accidents accounted for a sizable share (34%) of gun deaths among those 5 and under.

Racial and ethnic differences in gun deaths among kids are stark. In 2021, 46% of all gun deaths among children and teens involved Black victims, even though only 14% of the U.S. under-18 population that year was Black. Much smaller shares of gun deaths among children and teens in 2021 involved White (32%), Hispanic (17%) and Asian (1%) victims.

[calfoxwc]

1 hour ago, MLD Woody said:

What exactly is supposed to happen if I say Liken Riley's name? Are you saying the names of every child that's died to a firearm? You know, the actual leading killer of children. Not scary migrants. 

Thousands and thousands of people commit crimes every day. This and and thousands of migrants exist in this country without issue. One will commit a terrible crime and that's all you and others need to scream and get the fear mongering going. 

Fun election year stuff I guess

A.  What would happen? You might admit the unvetted flow of illegals into our country is wrong. So many are mentally ill from where they came from, extremely vicious and violent illegals - from where they came from.....why do you support bringing them in here? Just once, say her NAME and admit this is wrong. by your cultish corrupt sombeitch dem party.

B. "Crime exists anyway, so let all those illegals in? how utterly stupid and destructive to our country.  WHY NOT VETT THEM TO KEEP OUT THE RAPISTS, TORTURERS, MURDERERS, GANG MEMBERS, CARTEL MEMBERS, CRIMINALLY INSANE, and SEX TRAFFICKERS ? WHY not KEEP THEM OUT?

C. You really need to grow up. dammmmmmmmn.

[MLD Woody]

2 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

A.  What would happen? You might admit the unvetted flow of illegals into our country is wrong. So many are mentally ill from where they came from, extremely vicious and violent illegals - from where they came from.....why do you support bringing them in here? Just once, say her NAME and admit this is wrong. by your cultish corrupt sombeitch dem party.

B. "Crime exists anyway, so let all those illegals in? how utterly stupid and destructive to our country.  WHY NOT VETT THEM TO KEEP OUT THE RAPISTS, TORTURERS, MURDERERS, GANG MEMBERS, CARTEL MEMBERS, CRIMINALLY INSANE, and SEX TRAFFICKERS ? WHY not KEEP THEM OUT?

C. You really need to grow up. dammmmmmmmn.

You sound like the exact stereotypical bleeding heart liberals you hate, fyi.

 

I'm all for reforming and revamping our immigration system. It's clearly broken. Of course, a wall isn't the solution. And it definitely seems like Reps would rather keep that carrot on a stick to wind up gullible morons like you instead of actually fixing it. 

Also, for all of the issues with immigration, it doesn't call for the nationalist, "great replacement", "poisoning the blood" disgusting bullshit the right is spewing and you're repeating. 

[MLD Woody]

3 hours ago, Jax said:

You realize they categorize teens as children in those stats. There are a shit ton of teen gang bangers, and a shit ton running loose in cities like Chicago that shoot each other constantly. Also, don't know if you realize, behind every firearm is a person, now I know lefties like to blame everything and anything except those directly responsible but, it's the person that owns the firearm or pulls the trigger that is the cause, not the firearm. Thankfully in this country, we don't strip away rights just because people have accidents or abuse their rights. If you want to say deaths are deaths, then look at driving. After all you are the one bringing in other comparisons so you can't cry about a different example. Driving is a privilege, it's not even a right yet why aren't you worried about kids in car deaths?? What about babies in abortion?? More fake rage.

Let's say you have a good point in gun deaths among kids, let's pretend for a moment. In no way does it take away from the fact we need to stop illegals from entering our country and deport ones that are here. It in no way diminishes the crime they commit while illegally in our country. This is why we call you the dumbass cult, cry about guns all you want but don't try to fuse a totally different topic into it. Seriously, are we supposed to all of the sudden forget about the illegal invasion and their crimes because we have other problems? Dumbass cult.

 

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/06/gun-deaths-among-us-kids-rose-50-percent-in-two-years/

Gun deaths are much more common among some groups of children and teens

In the U.S., some groups of children and teens are far more likely than others to die by gunfire. Boys, for example, accounted for 83% of all gun deaths among children and teens in 2021. Girls accounted for 17%.

Older children and teens are much more likely than younger kids to be killed in gun-related incidents. Those ages 12 to 17 accounted for 86% of all gun deaths among children and teens in 2021, while those 6 to 11 accounted for 7% of the total, as did those 5 and under. Still, there were 179 gun deaths among children ages 6 to 11 and 184 among those 5 and under in 2021.

For all three age groups, homicide was the leading type of gun death in 2021. But suicides accounted for a significant share (36%) of gun deaths among those ages 12 to 17, while accidents accounted for a sizable share (34%) of gun deaths among those 5 and under.

Racial and ethnic differences in gun deaths among kids are stark. In 2021, 46% of all gun deaths among children and teens involved Black victims, even though only 14% of the U.S. under-18 population that year was Black. Much smaller shares of gun deaths among children and teens in 2021 involved White (32%), Hispanic (17%) and Asian (1%) victims.

The point was to show your outrage over illegals is anecdotal and emotional, not fact based. But that's pretty clear already. 

There are a lot of things we can do to reduce gun deaths. But looking at our guj culture compared to the rest of the developed world and then our gun deaths compared to the rest of the world and it tells a clear story. Mental health resources would be great. Healthcare in general. But the right will scream socialism. 

Cars have training, licenses, registration, etc. If we made guns have the same rules and restrictions as cars it would be a great first step. (Not to mention cars have utility other than killing/injuring people, unlike guns)

[Jax]

25 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

The point was to show your outrage over illegals is anecdotal and emotional, not fact based. But that's pretty clear already. 

There are a lot of things we can do to reduce gun deaths. But looking at our guj culture compared to the rest of the developed world and then our gun deaths compared to the rest of the world and it tells a clear story. Mental health resources would be great. Healthcare in general. But the right will scream socialism. 

Cars have training, licenses, registration, etc. If we made guns have the same rules and restrictions as cars it would be a great first step. (Not to mention cars have utility other than killing/injuring people, unlike guns)

Not getting into guns now.

Why make a point over anyones death that came at the hands of an illegal alien? Do you need to argue against Americans just because you think it has a conservative slant? You just can't merely agree the death shouldn't have happened?

How the hell do you say it's emotional? It's the most common sense issue we have.

[Jax]

33 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

You sound like the exact stereotypical bleeding heart liberals you hate, fyi.

 

I'm all for reforming and revamping our immigration system. It's clearly broken. Of course, a wall isn't the solution. And it definitely seems like Reps would rather keep that carrot on a stick to wind up gullible morons like you instead of actually fixing it. 

Also, for all of the issues with immigration, it doesn't call for the nationalist, "great replacement", "poisoning the blood" disgusting bullshit the right is spewing and you're repeating. 

Our immigration system isn't necessarily broken, it just isn't being enforced or protected.

[MLD Woody]

1 hour ago, Jax said:

Not getting into guns now.

Why make a point over anyones death that came at the hands of an illegal alien? Do you need to argue against Americans just because you think it has a conservative slant? You just can't merely agree the death shouldn't have happened?

How the hell do you say it's emotional? It's the most common sense issue we have.

There is no more emotional issue coming from the right than immigration. We have numerous threads and pieces of right wing media to prove it. 

Scary trans people being the second. 

 

Obviously the death shouldnt have happened. No murder should. It's the conversation and politicization around it. 

 

(And yeah we're not getting into guns, bringing up cars is idiotic because licensing and registration can immediately get thrown back into your face)

[Jax]

3 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

There is no more emotional issue coming from the right than immigration. We have numerous threads and pieces of right wing media to prove it. 

Scary trans people being the second. 

 

Obviously the death shouldnt have happened. No murder should. It's the conversation and politicization around it. 

 

(And yeah we're not getting into guns, bringing up cars is idiotic because licensing and registration can immediately get thrown back into your face)

Damn right, the illegal invasion is one of the top issues.

No one cares about trans people, until they get in your face constantly. Let's parade around scary Christians and watch you buttercups melt.

It doesn't have to be anything more than that, it's the death caused by an illegal that shouldn't be here. Case closed.

Bring up guns in another new topic, then we can dissect your stupidity.

[Jax]

3 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

There is no more emotional issue coming from .....

 

(And yeah we're not getting into guns, bringing up cars is idiotic because licensing and registration can immediately get thrown back into your face)

Let's tear apart your stupidity on this real quick.

First, my comparison is rights over privilege and deaths.

Second, we don't need to be certified or be registered to own guns. I'm not sure what you think is getting thrown in my face.

Third, I know gun grabbers hate comparing to cars because they can't refute anything.

[MLD Woody]

1 hour ago, Jax said:

Let's tear apart your stupidity on this real quick.

First, my comparison is rights over privilege and deaths.

Second, we don't need to be certified or be registered to own guns. I'm not sure what you think is getting thrown in my face.

Third, I know gun grabbers hate comparing to cars because they can't refute anything.

Hahahahaha

Sure thing pal. 

 

You thinking you made some great point with the "but but but cars!" tired taking point. Hilarious. 

Bravo 

[MLD Woody]

2 hours ago, Jax said:

Damn right, the illegal invasion is one of the top issues.

No one cares about trans people, until they get in your face constantly. Let's parade around scary Christians and watch you buttercups melt.

It doesn't have to be anything more than that, it's the death caused by an illegal that shouldn't be here. Case closed.

Bring up guns in another new topic, then we can dissect your stupidity.

You thinking this "invasion" is a top issue, you calling it an "invasion", again, proves the point I'm making. 

 

And yes, the right wants to win on "anti woke" nonsense aimed at the uneducated and ignorant. Another issue blown up by right wing media. And again, something even Trump called out. 

But it exactly a difficult group up manipulate I guess... The CPAC highlights show that too

[Jax]

1 hour ago, MLD Woody said:

Hahahahaha

Sure thing pal. 

 

You thinking you made some great point with the "but but but cars!" tired taking point. Hilarious. 

Bravo 

Can't help it you melt cause you can't refute anything.

[Jax]

1 hour ago, MLD Woody said:

You thinking this "invasion" is a top issue, you calling it an "invasion", again, proves the point I'm making. 

 

And yes, the right wants to win on "anti woke" nonsense aimed at the uneducated and ignorant. Another issue blown up by right wing media. And again, something even Trump called out. 

But it exactly a difficult group up manipulate I guess... The CPAC highlights show that too

I'm not the only one and it really is the top issue, stop being stupid.

It's not so much that anyone is anti woke so much as you dumbases keep trying to be woke. The left is going over the top with all their DEI bullshit in the work place and military. The left already blew that issue up by being dumb and grown ups now have to waste time fixing your guys temper tantrums and nonsense.

[calfoxwc]

I wish one of us could get through to woodpecker -

We have our 2nd Amendment to keep our guns.

There is no amendment that guarantees we can own cars.

so stupid a birdbrain.

[Jax]

1 hour ago, calfoxwc said:

I wish one of us could get through to woodpecker -

We have our 2nd Amendment to keep our guns.

There is no amendment that guarantees we can own cars.

so stupid a birdbrain.

But... but... but... licensing and registration!! ROFL

[calfoxwc]

On 3/8/2024 at 1:47 PM, MLD Woody said:

Also, for all of the issues with immigration, it doesn't call for the nationalist, "great replacement", "poisoning the blood" disgusting bullshit the right is spewing and you're repeating. 

liar, liar,feathers on fire.

I have never once talked about the two things you have in quotes. You will never find where I have ever said it. Not once.

You make an ass of yourself, then you resort to vague accusations that make you look superior - you think.

[Canton Dawg]

23 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

You thinking this "invasion" is a top issue, you calling it an "invasion", again, proves the point I'm making. 

Illegal immigration IS the number one issue among the majority of Americans.

If you don’t believe that you’re a special kind of stupid.

[Axe]

55 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said:

Illegal immigration IS the number one issue among the majority of Americans.

If you don’t believe that you’re a special kind of stupid.

The horses are out of the barn. This is all about a future illegal voter base.. No matter if Trump is elected. You can't deport 7 million who evers. Can't put that genie back in the bottle..

 

Congratulations lefties.. You have successfully brought down the United States of America.

 

And fuck you for doing so..

I will fight when the time comes,, And it IS coming

 

[Jax]

On 3/8/2024 at 1:51 PM, MLD Woody said:

 

Cars have training, licenses, registration, etc. If we made guns have the same rules and restrictions as cars it would be a great first step. (Not to mention cars have utility other than killing/injuring people, unlike guns)

Where's CCp, Woody wants to take away our rights!! What do you have to say now CCp?? Still worried about rights??

[MLD Woody]

1 hour ago, Jax said:

Where's CCp, Woody wants to take away our rights!! What do you have to say now CCp?? Still worried about rights??

It's funny you still think this "car comparison" thing is working in your favor. 

 

You really aren't that bright 

[Neo]

On 3/6/2024 at 8:40 PM, calfoxwc said:

Protect yourselves and your families and friends. You don't know who you may be a possible victim of, anywhere you go.

So you really don't have a reason you "need" an AR-15. Someone takes a shot at you in the mall, you going to pull your AR-15 out of your fanny pack or your waist belt? What about the grocery store, do you carry your AR-15 there? Or in the post office? What about when you walk in the neighborhood or on the bike trail, do you carry your AR there?

What about home defense, what makes an AR a better option then say a Mossberg 500 pump action 12 gauge or a SIG 226 9mm handgun with a 20 round capacity magazine? I protect myself with a 5 shot .357 snub nose revolver and one extra speed loader, plenty for self defense.

You have an AR for the same reason everyone else has one, because you WANT one. You like the weapon system, so you went out and bought one. THere's no practical reason to need one other than just to have it.

[FY56]

On 3/8/2024 at 8:58 PM, MLD Woody said:

You thinking this "invasion" is a top issue, you calling it an "invasion", again, proves the point I'm making. 

 

And yes, the right wants to win on "anti woke" nonsense aimed at the uneducated and ignorant. Another issue blown up by right wing media. And again, something even Trump called out. 

But it exactly a difficult group up manipulate I guess... The CPAC highlights show that too

 

Have you paid attention to the numbers?

The figure bouncing around out there is 7.2 million under Biden.

The border is the top issue concerning Americans, surpassing the economy. I posted a Gallop Poll chart that clearly reflected that.

An invasion? By the definition of the word yes..It doesn't have to imply armed invaders.."an incursion by a large number of people" or "an unwelcome intrusion to another's domain".

You should put that Biden sign back up in your yard so these invaders know where to go for shelter and sustenance.

You're gonna be putting it back up anyway.

[FY56]

37 minutes ago, Neo said:

So you really don't have a reason you "need" an AR-15. Someone takes a shot at you in the mall, you going to pull your AR-15 out of your fanny pack or your waist belt? What about the grocery store, do you carry your AR-15 there? Or in the post office? What about when you walk in the neighborhood or on the bike trail, do you carry your AR there?

What about home defense, what makes an AR a better option then say a Mossberg 500 pump action 12 gauge or a SIG 226 9mm handgun with a 20 round capacity magazine? I protect myself with a 5 shot .357 snub nose revolver and one extra speed loader, plenty for self defense.

You have an AR for the same reason everyone else has one, because you WANT one. You like the weapon system, so you went out and bought one. THere's no practical reason to need one other than just to have it.

Three paragraphs your point is?

So what is wrong with wanting an AR 15 even if you don't need it?

 

 

[Westside Steve]

41 minutes ago, Neo said:

So you really don't have a reason you "need" an AR-15. Someone takes a shot at you in the mall, you going to pull your AR-15 out of your fanny pack or your waist belt? What about the grocery store, do you carry your AR-15 there? Or in the post office? What about when you walk in the neighborhood or on the bike trail, do you carry your AR there?

What about home defense, what makes an AR a better option then say a Mossberg 500 pump action 12 gauge or a SIG 226 9mm handgun with a 20 round capacity magazine? I protect myself with a 5 shot .357 snub nose revolver and one extra speed loader, plenty for self defense.

You have an AR for the same reason everyone else has one, because you WANT one. You like the weapon system, so you went out and bought one. THere's no practical reason to need one other than just to have it.

Freedom shouldn't hinge on whether somebody needs something or not. Nobody needs a firearm of any kind at least not very many people. Just making that point the rest of them you guys can fight out by yourselves.

 

[Vambo]

1 hour ago, Neo said:

So you really don't have a reason you "need" an AR-15. Someone takes a shot at you in the mall, you going to pull your AR-15 out of your fanny pack or your waist belt? What about the grocery store, do you carry your AR-15 there? Or in the post office? What about when you walk in the neighborhood or on the bike trail, do you carry your AR there?

What about home defense, what makes an AR a better option then say a Mossberg 500 pump action 12 gauge or a SIG 226 9mm handgun with a 20 round capacity magazine? I protect myself with a 5 shot .357 snub nose revolver and one extra speed loader, plenty for self defense.

You have an AR for the same reason everyone else has one, because you WANT one. You like the weapon system, so you went out and bought one. THere's no practical reason to need one other than just to have it.

Do people really need a Covette, Maserati, Rolls-Royce or Ferrari ? All you really need is a VW bug.

Do people really need a Rolex when a Timex will tell time just a good?

Do people really need Fillico Jewelry Black King: $14,463 per liter', Bling H2O The Ten Thousand: $3,600 per liter, Ô Amazon Bird of Revelation: $2,784 per liter when tap water will quench your thirst just as good?

[FY56]

On 3/8/2024 at 1:51 PM, MLD Woody said:

The point was to show your outrage over illegals is anecdotal and emotional, not fact based. But that's pretty clear already. 

There are a lot of things we can do to reduce gun deaths. But looking at our guj culture compared to the rest of the developed world and then our gun deaths compared to the rest of the world and it tells a clear story. Mental health resources would be great. Healthcare in general. But the right will scream socialism. 

Cars have training, licenses, registration, etc. If we made guns have the same rules and restrictions as cars it would be a great first step. (Not to mention cars have utility other than killing/injuring people, unlike guns)

I'm not a gun enthusiast. Have no interest. I'm not sure how licensing, training, registration etc. result in fewer gun deaths. Can you shed some light on that?

[Ibleedbrown]

1 hour ago, Neo said:

So you really don't have a reason you "need" an AR-15. Someone takes a shot at you in the mall, you going to pull your AR-15 out of your fanny pack or your waist belt? What about the grocery store, do you carry your AR-15 there? Or in the post office? What about when you walk in the neighborhood or on the bike trail, do you carry your AR there?

What about home defense, what makes an AR a better option then say a Mossberg 500 pump action 12 gauge or a SIG 226 9mm handgun with a 20 round capacity magazine? I protect myself with a 5 shot .357 snub nose revolver and one extra speed loader, plenty for self defense.

You have an AR for the same reason everyone else has one, because you WANT one. You like the weapon system, so you went out and bought one. THere's no practical reason to need one other than just to have it.

I’m not a gun guy, like, at all. I don’t want one. I don’t want the responsibility of owning one. If the world goes to shit l accept l’m likely a dead duck, and that’s ok. 

I appreciate the second amendment though. The spirit behind it is keen, that our govt has potential to become an asshole entity, as govt entities are wont to do, and we need to be able to push back.

So AR-15s, sure. There should be trusted community members that have those. Maybe tanks and bazookas too. Especially bazookas. 

I don’t want a bazooka though. I really like saying bazooka though. 

Bazooka. 

[Neo]

50 minutes ago, Vambo said:

Do people really need a Covette, Maserati, Rolls-Royce or Ferrari ? All you really need is a VW bug.

You're making my point for me. People don't need Covette's but they look badass and go fast, that's why people buy them. Are they practical? No. Would you take a NASCAR right from the track and drive it on the street? You could, but highly impractical and it would totally suck as a daily driver. If you want to be able to drive a car all year round and want good gas milage, you buy the VW.

 

 

 

40 minutes ago, Ibleedbrown said:

. There should be trusted community members that have those. Maybe tanks and bazookas too. Especially bazookas. 

I don’t want a bazooka though. I really like saying bazooka though. 

Bazooka. 

Maybe personal tactical thermo nuclear weapons while we're at it. Where do you draw the line?

 

Look, my original response was on point and on topic and just want to hear it from him why we need AR-15's. It's his thread, he's the one saying it.

 

And my response is basically saying, we buy AR-15's for the same reason everybody else buys them, because we WANT them, and because they look badass, are highly customizable. But when someone tells me I NEED one, I want to know why. I know why people NEED guns in general. Tell me why you think I need that specific gun, that's all. I, and millions of other Americans, have gotten along just fine with protecting our families and properties with just handguns and shotguns, and bolt action rifles for hundreds of years.

[Ibleedbrown]

30 minutes ago, Neo said:

 

 

Look, my original response was on point and on topic and just want to hear it from him why we need AR-15's. It's his thread, he's the one saying it.

 

And my response is basically saying, we buy AR-15's for the same reason everybody else buys them, because we WANT them, and because they look badass, are highly customizable. But when someone tells me I NEED one, I want to know why. I know why people NEED guns in general. Tell me why you think I need that specific gun, that's all. I, and millions of other Americans, have gotten along just fine with protecting our families and properties with just handguns and shotguns, and bolt action rifles for hundreds of years.

Ah hell, l got a vintage Vietnam era machete for “protection.” How much protecting it’ll do? Who knows. 

I’d like to think no one needs guns. Or tanks. Or bazookas.

Maybe bazookas.

Ok, not bazookas.

Bazookas.