VaporTrail Posted April 4 Author Report Share Posted April 4 12 hours ago, calfoxwc said: Oh, yeah. Invading Israel and mass murdering. raping, torturing and kidnapping INNOCENT CIVILIANS isn't an "escalation" ??? How is that the conclusion that you come to? That was clearly a gigantic escalation. Not once have I suggested otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, VaporTrail said: How is that the conclusion that you come to? That was clearly a gigantic escalation. Not once have I suggested otherwise. Thank you. Perhaps I missed where you said it before. Truth is, it started this war. War is hell, historically, and blaming Israel for fighting in SELF-DEFENSE as their side of the war - is not civilized, imho. The world kitchen people going into a war zone unnounced is their mistake, and Israel had no way of knowing they did. It happens in war - that is why wars should never happen. Going back, again, the palestinians could have had their own country, lived in peace and prosperity with Israel, but they threw it away, back when Israel became a country. The cultural rage, cultural bloodthirsty extreme violence has destroyed their futures. Blaming Israel is asinine and uncivilized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VaporTrail Posted April 5 Author Report Share Posted April 5 11 hours ago, calfoxwc said: Thank you. Perhaps I missed where you said it before. Truth is, it started this war. War is hell, historically, and blaming Israel for fighting in SELF-DEFENSE as their side of the war - is not civilized, imho. The world kitchen people going into a war zone unnounced is their mistake, and Israel had no way of knowing they did. It happens in war - that is why wars should never happen. Going back, again, the palestinians could have had their own country, lived in peace and prosperity with Israel, but they threw it away, back when Israel became a country. The cultural rage, cultural bloodthirsty extreme violence has destroyed their futures. Blaming Israel is asinine and uncivilized. Israel's gone way past the line of defending their right to exist. That's why most people, including myself, are critical of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted April 5 Author Report Share Posted April 5 UAE suspends diplomatic relations with Israel. Suspect that the attack on the aid workers was the last straw for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 The only way to destroy Hamas is perhaps to destroy Gaza. I notice no other country is offering the Palestinians land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 10 hours ago, VaporTrail said: Israel's gone way past the line of defending their right to exist. That's why most people, including myself, are critical of them. oh, baloney. Way past HOW ? they put out days of advance warning - if the palestinians don't leave, it's either their faults or hamas is forcing them to stay. odd, so many of them support hamas. I don't doubt that it's possible hamas blew up that kitchen convoy to use it as a fake propaganda around the world, to force Israel to not take out the rest of hamas. I wish you were critical of the palestinians. So many of them loved and cheered over 9/11. Those are the people you want to defend? You refused to believe hamas murdered and tortured babies, burned them alive, cut babies out of mothers wombs while the mother was alive, beheading the baby and then murdered the mother. "no video" . But you accept Israel maybe being responsible for the world kitchen crew with NO VIDEO ? How does that work? Do you know how wars work? Too much science to know the history of it all? Every war, accidents happen. It's stupid to decide that Israel should let hamas off the hook for their atrocities, then get all "outraged" only that Israel made a mistake - which they are admitting apparently: https://www.theguardian.com › world › 2024 › apr › 05 › israeli-inquiry-blames-wck-aid-killings-on-grave-errors-by-military-personnel?ref=upstract.com Israeli inquiry blames WCK aid killings on 'grave errors' by military ... TodayAn Israeli military commission of inquiry has blamed a series of "grave errors" by military personnel, including lack of coordination and misidentification, for its killing of seven World ... ************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 https://www.theguardian.com › world › 2023 › feb › 24 › israel-was-hit-by-5000-palestinian-terror-attacks-in-2022-it-has-to-defend-itself Israelis were hit by 5,000 Palestinian terror attacks in 2022. The ... Feb 24, 2023Jalal Abukhater's article (There's no cycle of violence in Jerusalem - only Israel's lethal oppression of my people, 7 February), published days after a Palestinian terrorist murdered ... https://thehill.com › opinion › international › 4556925-how-the-spectacle-of-palestinian-terrorism-changed-the-world How the spectacle of Palestinian terrorism changed the world Palestinian terrorists again innovated and changed the world with a method of terrorism that they didn't invent but did popularize: the suicide bombing. About 130 suicide bombings took place in ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 https://www.npr.org › 2022 › 08 › 26 › 1119220569 › palestinians-gaza-hamas-islamic-jihad-israel Palestinians grow frustrated with militants in Gaza, and a rift could ... Aug 26, 2022Members of Palestinian Civil Defense evacuate a wounded man following an explosion in Jebaliya refugee camp, Gaza, Aug. 7. ... Both Hamas and Islamic Jihad are listed as terrorist organizations by ... https://www.bbc.com › news › world-middle-east-60902330 Five killed by Palestinian gunman in latest deadly attack in Israel - BBC Israel's prime minister said the country was "dealing with a new wave of terrorism" Five people have been shot dead by a Palestinian gunman in a suburb of the Israeli city of Tel Aviv, in the ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 https://www.washingtonpost.com › national-security › 2023 › 10 › 10 › hamas-terror-israel Hamas terror tactics test Israel's war strategy - The Washington Post Oct 10, 2023The brazen attack by Palestinian militants has blurred the lines between terrorism and war, challenging how democracies respond. By Marc Fisher. October 10, 2023 at 8:18 p.m. EDT. Civilians take ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 Listen to the son of the commander of hamas, Vapor. No war was ever fought where there weren't mistakes made. https://www.reuters.com › world › middle-east › israel-signals-probe-lethal-strike-gaza-aid-convoy-take-weeks-2024-04-04 Israel plans to adjust Gaza war tactics after killing aid workers 1 day agoIsrael said on Thursday it would adjust tactics in the Gaza war after killing seven aid workers in air strikes its military has acknowledged were a major mistake, and that inquiry findings would ... ****************************************** Israel MUST go into Rafah and take out the rest of hamas. The UN can go to hell - it is hopelessly corrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 11 hours ago, VaporTrail said: Israel's gone way past the line of defending their right to exist. That's why most people, including myself, are critical of them. Who initiated the attack on a peaceful Oct 7, killing at least 1500 inside of Israel and taking 233 hostages? We wouldn't have to be concerned about Israels alleged atrocities now would we? With a strong emphasis on "alleged". Here it is, real slow just for you: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 De-escalation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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calfoxwc Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 3 hours ago, Jax said: then why are they here? Why do these "palestinians" and arabic people want everyone else to die? they should be arrested for insurrection hate speech because they are vicious, mentally deranged sombeitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted April 8 Author Report Share Posted April 8 3 hours ago, Jax said: 23 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: then why are they here? Why do these "palestinians" and arabic people want everyone else to die? they should be arrested for insurrection hate speech because they are vicious, mentally deranged sombeitches. These people are here because Netanyahu recommended to US Congress to bomb the hell out of his Muslim neighbors on false pretenses of WMDs, leading to their destabilization. Source: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4529120/user-clip-netanyahus-expert-testimony-iraq-2002 If you don't want these people here, maybe you should stop supporting our government's role in creating Middle Eastern refugees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted April 8 Author Report Share Posted April 8 Israel moving troops out of south Gaza and toward northern Israel. Increased conflict expected with Hezbollah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 12 hours ago, VaporTrail said: These people are here because Netanyahu recommended to US Congress to bomb the hell out of his Muslim neighbors on false pretenses of WMDs, leading to their destabilization. Source: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4529120/user-clip-netanyahus-expert-testimony-iraq-2002 If you don't want these people here, maybe you should stop supporting our government's role in creating Middle Eastern refugees. What did the UK do? They have a massive problem as well. And Germany? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 Maybe if we didn't have liberal policies that allowed such people to even visit let alone live here, then we wouldn't be so bad off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 13 hours ago, VaporTrail said: These people are here because Netanyahu recommended to US Congress to bomb the hell out of his Muslim neighbors on false pretenses of WMDs, leading to their destabilization. Source: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4529120/user-clip-netanyahus-expert-testimony-iraq-2002 If you don't want these people here, maybe you should stop supporting our government's role in creating Middle Eastern refugees. Wrong, though. My friend was in intelligence in Iraq - he was quite a liberal goofball before enlisting - he told me once afterwards, if the American people knew what was really happening in Iraq, they would totally agree with going into Iraq. He wouldn't tell me why - it was classified. You think all those folks came here from Iraq? lol. then why don't they go the hell BACK now? Pretty feeble, Vapor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted April 8 Author Report Share Posted April 8 4 hours ago, Jax said: What did the UK do? They have a massive problem as well. And Germany? Their problem was allying with us, having a land border with Asia Minor and the Middle East, and thinking that immigration could seamlessly replace the babies that Europeans weren't making. 3 hours ago, Jax said: Maybe if we didn't have liberal policies that allowed such people to even visit let alone live here, then we wouldn't be so bad off. Well, here we are. 3 hours ago, calfoxwc said: You think all those folks came here from Iraq? Iraq, Syria, Libya, Tunisia. Places the US destabilized. 3 hours ago, calfoxwc said: Wrong, though. My friend was in intelligence in Iraq - he was quite a liberal goofball before enlisting - he told me once afterwards, if the American people knew what was really happening in Iraq, they would totally agree with going into Iraq. He wouldn't tell me why - it was classified. My dad worked at Nintendo and he said that the things he saw... if things went differently, they would have won the console war against Sony and Microsoft. But he couldn't tell me what he saw. It was a trade secret. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 People who tell you they know something, but can't tell you 'because it's classified' are full of shit. If it was so classified they wouldn't let you know they knew it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 1 hour ago, VaporTrail said: My dad worked at Nintendo and he said that the things he saw... if things went differently, they would have won the console war against Sony and Microsoft. But he couldn't tell me what he saw. It was a trade secret. lol, sure, but I wasn't telling a lie - it's true. and saddam and sons didn't have iraq "stabilized". https://www.cfr.org › backgrounder › iraq-iraqi-ties-terrorism IRAQ: Iraqi Ties to Terrorism | Council on Foreign Relations Yes. Former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein provided bases, training camps, and other support to terrorist groups fighting the governments of neighboring Turkey and Iran, as well as to Palestinian ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 7 hours ago, VaporTrail said: Their problem was allying with us, having a land border with Asia Minor and the Middle East, and thinking that immigration could seamlessly replace the babies that Europeans weren't making. Well, here we are. Iraq, Syria, Libya, Tunisia. Places the US destabilized. My dad worked at Nintendo and he said that the things he saw... if things went differently, they would have won the console war against Sony and Microsoft. But he couldn't tell me what he saw. It was a trade secret. Right, the problem is allowing immigration. The problem isn't the US going around making enemies. We're already their enemy just being who we are. Same with UK, they go into countries to take over for their religion, not because we destabilized their country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 Meanwhile, Israel took out a revolutionary guard leader in Iran. WHO - masterminded and initiated the tragic invasion of Israel and the massacre/torture/rape/babies beheaded/burned alive and kidnappings..... so now.... iran sees the biden corrupt slugs failing to support israel over the next election. so..... russia is encouraged to act out in starting a war. china is gearing up to start a war. and iran is ready to start a new war: (NONE OF THIS WOULD BE HAPPENING IF PRES TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT - BLOOD ON THE HANDS OF EVERY SINGLE VOTER WHO VOTED AGAINST OUR COUNTRY AND PRES TRUMP) https://redstate.com/wardclark/2024/04/09/report-iran-sending-arms-to-anti-israel-forces-in-west-bank-n2172525 Report: Iran Sending Arms to Anti-Israel Forces in West Bank (n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reality Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 From the 5:50 mark it pretty much sums it up https://youtu.be/RkwgnlPRdHg?si=nAYMmxp0njK8DZ6x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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