tiamat63 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Aren't socks with cops with pig faces a uniform modification? I don't know if that is breaking NFL rules or not to be honest but if it is why was there no talk from Goodell about a fine over that? Players are allowed to wear what they want pre game, I believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 To me the flag doesn't represent the government. The flag represents the country and by proxy the citizens of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 To me the flag doesn't represent the government. The flag represents the country and by proxy the citizens of the country. And Colin (and others') point is that the flag is not representing all citizens of the country and is protesting against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Fuck Colin and fuck you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 You're an ignorant Cintucki cracker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Fuck Colin and fuck you. -I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 And Colin (and others') point is that the flag is not representing all citizens of the country and is protesting against it. He can feel that way but it IS representing all citizens. The problems he is highlighting aren't the fault of the flag anymore than if I sat in protest of the incredibly high crime rate among black people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 National pass-time: NFL ratings take big hit after anthem protestsMost Americans consider sports an escape from the trials and tribulations of their lives. (For Cleveland Browns fans, the NFL is part of those trials and tribulations … but I digress.) When sports becomes another politicized arena for multi-millionaires to lecture the fans that provide their celebrity lifestyle, it comes as no surprise that the fans will get turned off — and turn the channel. Quelle surprise, as they’d say in the Canadian league, where the focus is still on football. With the dust settled on Week One, the NFL saw a reduction in most key apples-to-apples comparisons from 2015 to 2016. The lesson? If the NFL doesn’t want to provide an escape, then fans will create their own escape. http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/14/national-pass-time-nfl-ratings-take-big-hit-anthem-protests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Stuart Just love these ignorant leftist memes. The flag has nothing to do with government. Government, specifically big government is the flags enemy. Libfucks must think when those Marines raised the flag on Iwo Jima they were honoring government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 I really fucking doubt the total NFL viewership is being seriously affected by Kap sitting during the anthem. We would need to see a graph of these statistics over time to make an accurate assumption. Right now you can just make a loose case for a correlation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 I really fucking doubt the total NFL viewership is being seriously affected by Kap sitting during the anthem. We would need to see a graph of these statistics over time to make an accurate assumption. Right now you can just make a loose case for a correlation. Viewership was down but I would agree without polling you could make a case for any number of reasons that viewership was down. It was down though with the National Anthem controversy happening this season and it could be the cause or it could be a coincidence. For me I hate politics in sports. I follow politics plenty during the week and when I watch football it is a break from anything political. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Viewership was down but I would agree without polling you could make a case for any number of reasons that viewership was down. It was down though with the National Anthem controversy happening this season and it could be the cause or it could be a coincidence. For me I hate politics in sports. I follow politics plenty during the week and when I watch football it is a break from anything political. If it were related to Kaepernick exclusively you'd expected to see a trough with 49ers viewership in particular. I haven't looked at the figures so don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 There's plenty of other reasons - no Brady, Gronk for SNF, no Manning for TNF, for starters. Then there's the whole domestic abuse part, the drug use part, etc. etc. and with Kaepernick on top (while I will defend his *right* to protest it still riles people up) I guess it's not that much of a shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Did I miss the usual liberal knee jerk about conserviatives etc, who say something that ticks some people off, so the liberals say "he has aright to say it, but he will suffer consequences" in his case, I'm not seeing it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Really? You probably read three articles online a day about how Kap isn't a real American. He will suffer consequences if they come to be. He's probably not liked by many people now. Just because YOU want him punished by the NFL doesn't mean that's the only fair consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Really? You probably read three articles online a day about how Kap isn't a real American. He will suffer consequences if they come to be. He's probably not liked by many people now. Just because YOU want him punished by the NFL doesn't mean that's the only fair consequence And I would tend to agree that he's not by any definition vague or otherwise of what a real American is. He apparently has no respect for the symbol of the country he is a citizen of so that would sound un American to me.I don't suppose there's any law that forces him to be a real American but if your Allegiance is to your race before your country I guess that would mean that you are not in fact a real American. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 I'm yet to hear any definition of 'real american' btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 I'm yet to hear any definition of 'real american' btw. I think I'm at least giving a pretty good idea of what it is not. Someones whose Allegiance is to his race his religion or another government would not be a real American in my opinion.. I guess the same would go for subjects of the queen. You don't? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 I'm yet to hear any definition of 'real american' btw. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/23/what-it-takes-to-be-a-real-american-according-to-real-americans/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted September 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Did you guys hear on ESPN what Tony Larussa said about Colon Keapernick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 That article starts with a monster truck. That is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 So, speaking English - sure, no problems there. Being born in the US, and being a christian - that's what makes a real american? I would have thought there's more to it than that. Besides, by that metric, Kaepernick is certainly a 'real american'. Next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 So, speaking English - sure, no problems there. Being born in the US, and being a christian - that's what makes a real american? I would have thought there's more to it than that. Besides, by that metric, Kaepernick is certainly a 'real american'. Next? Only 'real American's' can understand. You'll never get it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted September 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 The Dems won't speak of the negro lootings or the Islam religions. But oh goddamn it's ok to talk about the white people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted September 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 So, speaking English - sure, no problems there. Being born in the US, and being a christian - that's what makes a real american? I would have thought there's more to it than that. Besides, by that metric, Kaepernick is certainly a 'real american'. Next? You're not a real Englishman are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 You're not a real Englishman are you? You wouldn't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted September 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 You wouldn't understand.Lol nope. Gotta go to Wal Mart man I'll catch ya later. Think I'll fire up the '56 Nomad and take it into the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 I'm yet to hear any definition of 'real american' btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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