D Bone Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, darren15 said: We were giving Bengals a 2 and a 3 apparently Good God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: Lol, so when it can be used to make Hue look bag, the point I've been making for weeks gets used against me Haha just busting your stones. I am completely done with this head coach and FO. They truly are glad to have the type of fans who endure this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, Mark O said: Schefter reports the Browns notified the NFL of the deal "moments too late," and that the league would not budge. ESPN Clevelad's Tony Grossi went as far as to report that the Browns were "celebrating" McCarron's acquisition and "forgot to call in the deal before the deadline." That seems a bit hard to believe, though we really want to. The Browns have lost control of their quarterback narrative, letting their rivals and media paint them as hapless in their pursuit of an answer under center. Hahaha wowza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Back office stinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 If it turns out the Browns missed trading for the dude they thought was gonna be their franchise QB because of paperwork, that's the most Browns thing to ever have happened to them. I find this story a bit too outlandish though. I think there's more truth in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 13 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: Lol, so when it can be used to make Hue look bag, the point I've been making for weeks gets used against me That’s how this whole thing works. This board is full of stupid old Shmucks that can barely formulate a coherent thought. They just sit around and hem and haw and get each other riled up, then go jack each other off talking about the good ol days. Theres like four or five knowledgeable people here who’s opinions I respect because they are capable of rational thought, then another three or four who’s opinions I respect because I’ve been around long enough to know they are truly just fed up with the losing. Then the rest is pretty much a pile of useless garbage that time forgot who shitpost just because their wives and kids hate them and they have nothing better to do with their old, wrinkly lives. Come over to r/Browns. It’s where the people who actually know what the hell they are talking about can discuss actual Browns moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Dane BruglerVerified account @dpbrugler 5m5 minutes ago More Dane Brugler Retweeted Jim Owczarski A 2nd and 3rd rounder from CLE?! No words. Except that #Bengals fans must be crushed right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 A 2nd and a 3rd for McCarron would have been Retarded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 The NFL did us a favor, honestly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 I for once am actually glad we screwed up. I am not a Mccarron fan. Is he better than what we have now? Probably but not a FQB in my mind. The real travesty is that we bombed on getting Jimmy G and then punted with Mccarron. Honestly to me this means Hue 100% believes that Kizer is perma toast. It is further beyond belief to me that we "accidentally" missed the deadline reporting this to the NFL. Call me a tin foil hat but I suspect it comes out Jimmy stepped in and nixed it as word has it he is furious with Hue for some of his comments. All in all just another humiliating day for Browns as an org. Relative to the QB's Hue wanted. Sure he wanted some that were turds, he also wanted Watson , Goff (year 2 looking just fine), Stated Wentz was the best pro day he has seen in his career. I think perhaps you have your internet gun aimed at the wrong person as i relates to our lack of a viable QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted October 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 This stinks of Hue doing his mate Marvin another favour like he did with the Carson Palmer trade. Or trying to. Id fire him tonight. He’s done nothing to help Kizer (his pick) and his time management is beyond pathetic. He’s not helping develop these young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Rumor is we traded a 2nd to cincy for mccaron but we were so busy celebrating we forgot to notify the NFL and we missed the deadline... heard on radio... hopefully a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21241178/cincinnati-bengals-trade-qb-aj-mccarron-cleveland-browns-falls-through The quarterback situation just by itself certainly makes the FO seem like a bunch of morons. I realize the sunshine boys won't admit it but... They've pissed away two veterans with NFL experience and fumbled at least one trade for Jimmy Garoppolo who knows what the inside scoop is with AJ McCarron? I can give them a little bit of a pass on the draft because, hey, who knows Wentz and Watson might have sucked if they played here but... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Woody Allen couldn't write material this good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 I heard Hue ran out of time outs, and the clock ran out before we could swing this deal. That ought to build up Kizer’s confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 via Rotoworld - ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Browns believed they completed their acquisition of Bengals QB A.J. McCarron before Tuesday's deadline, but that the league would not allow it to go through. Schefter reports the Browns notified the NFL of the deal "moments too late," and that the league would not budge. ESPN Clevelad's Tony Grossi went as far as to report that the Browns were "celebrating" McCarron's acquisition and "forgot to call in the deal before the deadline." That seems a bit hard to believe, though we really want to. The Cincinnati Enquirer reports the Browns were ready to part with second- and third-round picks. The Browns have lost control of their quarterback narrative, letting their rivals and media paint them as hapless in their pursuit of an answer under center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The User from Cleveland Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 This is such a Browns thing to have happened. Of source, we ran out of time lol. Also, a second rounder for McCarron is way too much. 49ers just got Jimmy G for a second and we're using our second on McCarron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted October 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Jesus Christ this FO has made lots of trades since they came here and all of a sudden they’ve forgotten they need to call the NFL? How anyone can believe such horse Sheet is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 It wasn't just a 2, it was a 2 and a 3. That's too much.. I'm glad they didn't get him. They'll have one additional athletic DB/LB next season because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: I heard Hue ran out of time outs, and the clock ran out before we could swing this deal. That ought to build up Kizer’s confidence. Like I posted in the other thread, according to ESPN and Schefter ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Browns attempted to trade for Bengals No. 2 QB A.J. McCarron before Tuesday's deadline. ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Bengals actually believed a deal was done, but that the Browns ended up not approving it with the league. It's the first we've heard of McCarron since August, where his name was a mainstay in trade rumors. The Browns are casting a wide net at quarterback, but continue to lack decisiveness as they search for an answer under center. McCarron is headed for restricted free agency next offseason. ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Browns believed they completed their acquisition of Bengals QB A.J. McCarron before Tuesday's deadline, but that the league would not allow it to go through. Schefter reports the Browns notified the NFL of the deal "moments too late," and that the league would not budge. ESPN Clevelad's Tony Grossi went as far as to report that the Browns were "celebrating" McCarron's acquisition and "forgot to call in the deal before the deadline." That seems a bit hard to believe, though we really want to. The Cincinnati Enquirer reports the Browns were ready to part with second- and third-round picks. Coach Hue Jackson was McCarron's coordinator his first two years in the league. The Browns have lost control of their quarterback narrative, letting their rivals and media paint them as hapless in their pursuit of an answer under center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted October 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 My thoughts Hue struck the deal with his friend Marvin and the Bengals The front office said no way Hue goes directly to Jimmy Jimmy says ok and tries to overrule the FO but it’s too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, LondonBrown said: Jesus Christ this FO has made lots of trades since they came here and all of a sudden they’ve forgotten they need to call the NFL? How anyone can believe such horse Sheet is beyond me. We've got Poetic Linus regarding Hogan.....and London Linus regarding the FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Somebody needs to lose their job over this. We are the laughing stock of ALL professional sports, not just the NFL! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Then again keep in mind that you'd have to be pretty stupid to give away a franchise quarterback when your starter is as old as Tom Brady or you seem to have questions about your starter in Andy Dalton. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Canton Mike said: Somebody needs to lose their job 1) Actually, I think LondonBrown's scenario sounds more correct. Problem is, if Kelvin Benjamin [who has a Pro Bowl in his history] is only worth a 3 and a 7, AJ is not in the galaxy of a 2 and a 3. So, our FO is correct yet again.. because this decision would have been made based on assets given vs asset received.. and thus if anyone should lose their job it's Hue. 2) I couldn't be more tired of the calls for bloodlust / lynching. Firing people haphazardly does NOT do anything other than make the atmosphere worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, stillmotion said: Like I posted in the other thread, according to ESPN and Schefter ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Browns attempted to trade for Bengals No. 2 QB A.J. McCarron before Tuesday's deadline. ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Bengals actually believed a deal was done, but that the Browns ended up not approving it with the league. It's the first we've heard of McCarron since August, where his name was a mainstay in trade rumors. The Browns are casting a wide net at quarterback, but continue to lack decisiveness as they search for an answer under center. McCarron is headed for restricted free agency next offseason. ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Browns believed they completed their acquisition of Bengals QB A.J. McCarron before Tuesday's deadline, but that the league would not allow it to go through. Schefter reports the Browns notified the NFL of the deal "moments too late," and that the league would not budge. ESPN Clevelad's Tony Grossi went as far as to report that the Browns were "celebrating" McCarron's acquisition and "forgot to call in the deal before the deadline." That seems a bit hard to believe, though we really want to. The Cincinnati Enquirer reports the Browns were ready to part with second- and third-round picks. Coach Hue Jackson was McCarron's coordinator his first two years in the league. The Browns have lost control of their quarterback narrative, letting their rivals and media paint them as hapless in their pursuit of an answer under center. It was a desperation move that backfired, and now the FO look like fools...again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Then again keep in mind that you'd have to be pretty stupid to give away a franchise quarterback when your starter is as old as Tom Brady or you seem to have questions about your starter in Andy Dalton. WSS True, especially to a division rival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, LondonBrown said: Ryan Burns @FtblSickness Traded a ton for Carson Palmer. Excited about RGIII. All in on Goff. Really wanted Jimmy G. Also likes AJ McCarron. Hue Jackson. QB Guru. 8:54 pm · 31 Oct 2017 Carson has had a pretty good career post the Hue trade, Goff may actually be good, many folks think JG will be good, I am skeptical on AJ and I think RG3 was more of the FO tossing hue something since they had no intention of drafting a QB in the first. I would rather have Hue making the decision on the QB then the FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 The deal breaker was that the Bungles refused to take Jackson back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 19 minutes ago, LondonBrown said: My thoughts Hue struck the deal with his friend Marvin and the Bengals The front office said no way Hue goes directly to Jimmy Jimmy says ok and tries to overrule the FO but it’s too late There may be some truth to this but all Hue has to say is look the FO passed on Wentz, they passed on Watson, the didn't due what was necessary to acquire JG and these other teams benefit from trading with us while we passed on good QBs, time to find a QB. And you may think he hasn't given Kizer time to develop, I think he has been fair with that, in the end the player has to make the right decisions etc. The FO doesn;t believe in retaining veteran players who can help someone like Kizer of some of these other players develop. Who is modeling how to be a QB to Kizer? Kessler? Hogan? Thats not Hues fault, thats the FO fault. Sashi has final say on the roster not Hue, so the QB issue belongs squarely on Sashi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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