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16 hours ago, FairHooker11 said:

i hope he doesΒ  - starting w/ the opener

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Me too. If horny boy is suspended for the season and the Browns get Jimmy Garoppolo I could root for a loss to the Panthers and then go 16 and 1.

Beyond that the fucks I give about the Panthers are in short supply.

Maybe when the dust clears we can trade Watson to Miami next season.

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12 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

JFF looking better every day.😁

Oh God I'd never, ever thought hear that again.Β 

"With the 22nd pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Cleveland Browns select........ "Β  Β 

OK a trip down memory lane,Β  do you remember..... oh brother.Β  Β Maybe he was the best available at #22 but who else was there, trade up or just trade forΒ ......memories are always 20/20.Β Β 

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  • 2014Β First Round.Β  Β :o
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1 1 HOU Jadeveon Clowney DE 21 2021 0 3 7 51 39 97 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 210 1 41.0 South Carolina College Stats
1 2 STL Greg Robinson T 21 2019 0 0 5 24 13 83 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Β  Β  Β  Auburn College Stats
1 3 JAX Blake Bortles QB 22 2019 0 0 5 44 44 78 1562 2634 17649 103 75 283 1766 8 1 20 1 Β  Β  Β  Central Florida College Stats
1 4 BUF Sammy Watkins WR 21 2021 0 0 6 42 21 99 0 1 0 0 1 11 76 0 348 5059 34 Β  Β  Β  Clemson College Stats
1 5 OAK Khalil Mack LB 23 2021 3 6 7 82 42 117 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 352 3 76.5 Buffalo College Stats
1 6 ATL Jake Matthews T 22 2021 0 1 8 60 60 128 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Β  Β  Β  Texas A&M College Stats
1 7 TAM Mike Evans WR 21 2021 0 4 8 62 62 122 0 0 0 0 0 1 10 0 606 9301 75 1 Β  Β  Texas A&M College Stats
1 8 CLE Justin Gilbert DB 22 2016 0 0 0 4 3 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 36 1 Β  Oklahoma St. College Stats
1 9 MIN Anthony Barr LB 22 2021 0 4 6 52 52 98 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 335 5 17.5 UCLA College Stats
1 10 DET Eric Ebron TE 21 2021 0 1 4 29 15 106 0 1 0 0 0 5 -6 3 351 3837 33 Β  Β  Β  North Carolina College Stats
1 11 TEN Taylor Lewan T 23 2021 0 3 7 47 47 103 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 10 1 Β  Β  Β  Michigan College Stats
1 12 NYG Odell Beckham Jr. WR 21 2021 0 3 6 51 41 96 4 6 144 2 0 23 170 1 531 7367 56 3 Β  Β  LSU College Stats
1 13 STL Aaron Donald DT 23 2021 7 8 8 110 110 127 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 285 Β  98.0 Pittsburgh College Stats
1 14 CHI Kyle Fuller DB 22 2021 1 2 5 48 45 112 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 368 19 Β  Virginia Tech College Stats
1 15 PIT Ryan Shazier LB 22 2017 0 2 3 27 27 46 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 202 7 7.0 Ohio St. College Stats
1 16 DAL Zack Martin G 23 2021 5 7 8 84 84 120 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Β  Β  Β  Notre Dame College Stats
1 17 BAL C.J. Mosley LB 22 2021 0 4 6 65 59 95 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 494 10 10.5 Alabama College Stats
1 18 NYJ Calvin Pryor DB 22 2017 0 0 3 13 13 46 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 132 2 0.5 Louisville College Stats
1 19 MIA Ja'Wuan James T 22 2019 0 0 4 27 26 65 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Β  Β  Β  Tennessee College Stats
1 20 NOR Brandin Cooks WR 20 2021 0 0 8 63 21 119 0 0 0 0 0 48 302 2 573 7917 46 Β  Β  Β  Oregon St. College Stats
1 21 GNB Ha Ha Clinton-Dix DB 21 2021 0 1 6 34 24 98 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 417 16 5.5 Alabama College Stats
1 22 CLE Johnny Manziel QB 21 2015 0 0 0 4 4 14 147 258 1675 7 7 46 259 1 0 0 0 Β  Β  Β  Texas A&M College Stats
1 23 KAN Dee Ford LB 23 2021 0 1 2 23 21 85 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 117 Β  40.0 Auburn College Stats
1 24 CIN Darqueze Dennard DB 22 2021 0 0 0 13 12 87 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 230 4 3.0 Michigan St. College Stats
1 25 SDG Jason Verrett DB 23 2021 0 1 2 17 13 40 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 125 7 Β  TCU College Stats
1 26 PHI Marcus Smith LB 22 2018 0 0 0 4 3 53 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 25 Β  6.5 Louisville College Stats
1 27 ARI Deone Bucannon DB 22 2020 0 0 4 32 29 84 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 329 2 7.0 Washington St. College Stats
1 28 CAR Kelvin Benjamin WR 23 2018 0 0 4 22 18 61 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 209 3021 20 Β  Β  Β  Florida St. College Stats
1 29 NWE Dominique Easley DT 22 2018 0 0 0 7 4 41 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 44 1 6.5 Florida College Stats
1 30 SFO Jimmie Ward DB 23 2021 0 0 5 24 24 94 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 303 4 3.0 Northern Illinois College Stats
1 31 DEN Bradley Roby DB 22 2021 0 0 3 22 15 113 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 298 11 5.0 Ohio St. College Stats
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Just think "what if"Β  and another quarterback was picked......all quarterback stories for years might have been drastically different.Β 

Even up toΒ 2022..Β Β No Mayfield picked, no BW stories,Β  different drafts ????????

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  1. TheΒ 2014 Draft all quarterbacks drafted Blake Bortles was first thenΒ WOW, what if.......right up to today !Β  Look at numbers 3, 4, 5.Β  Β Scouting or just luck ?Β  Β :oΒ :lol:Β :blink:

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On 7/6/2022 at 4:40 PM, tiamat63 said:

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Panthers have a good front 7 and secondary.Β  Β  They also have a good RB room provided Run CMC comes back healthy.Β  Β Β They invested resources into their oline this off season and their WR room - Higgins, DJ Moore and Robby Anderson are all good targets.

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They play in a tough division.Β  "Garbage" is hardly the word I would use.

I agree with you.Β  I think it's a very good opportunity for him.Β  There's some playmakers in that offense; and they drafted the Offensive Tackle they wanted at #6 overall.Β Β 

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On 7/9/2022 at 8:36 AM, Unsympathetic said:

DW is so mentally weak that he had a NFL MVP season on a team with a losing record.

And he sat out the 2021 season because he was so mentally and emotionally mature?

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6 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said:

Nah.Β  He's not a Brown I hope we beat them, and bad.

Yes.Β  The richestΒ Cleveland BROWNS' playerΒ in the club historyΒ  Β  -and-Β  Β he hasn't taken a single GAMEDAY snap with themΒ ever.

And we don't know exactly when.Β  Β He's gettingΒ Β "fat and happy "Β  Β as aΒ BROWNΒ Β in fact he can before too longΒ retireΒ as aΒ  Β "fat and happy "Β Β BROWN.Β 

It's a terrible incentive for a rookie or oldie to become extremely wealthy without taking a snap......they can just mentally retire, soon to be followed by physically beΒ gone.

The BROWNSΒ Β may be in a very bad situation and can't do a d*mnΒ  thing about it.Β 

Scary.

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34 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said:

Nah.Β  He's not a Brown I hope we beat them, and bad.

Me too but I wasn't talking about Baker.

Β "The one you love" was meant to be the Browns. Losing to Carolina is what fans perceive as teaching the organization a lesson at the expense of the team they love... for what they perceive was a major fuck up.

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32 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said:

And he sat out the 2021 season because he was so mentally and emotionally mature?

That scares the football  🏈  size crap out of me.

An emotional psyco soon to be the Cleveland Browns starting quarterback who before too many years can just fade away.Β  Β He hasΒ NOΒ incentive to do anything.Β 

Maybe hisΒ characterΒ as a football player and person will carry him on to victory..................we hope.Β  Β  Β  Β  Β  Β :huh:

GO BROWNSΒ  !Β  Β  Β Β 

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9 minutes ago, mjp28 said:

Yes.Β  The richestΒ Cleveland BROWNS' playerΒ in the club historyΒ  Β  -and-Β  Β he hasn't taken a single GAMEDAY snap with themΒ ever.

And we don't know exactly when.Β  Β He's gettingΒ Β "fat and happy "Β  Β as aΒ BROWNΒ Β in fact he can before too longΒ retireΒ as aΒ  Β "fat and happy "Β Β BROWN.Β 

It's a terrible incentive for a rookie or oldie to become extremely wealthy without taking a snap......they can just mentally retire, soon to be followed by physically beΒ gone.

The BROWNSΒ Β may be in a very bad situation and can't do a d*mnΒ  thing about it.Β 

Scary.

That sounds like a response that shoulda went to me rather than DieHard!!

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44 minutes ago, FY56 said:

That sounds like a response that shoulda went to me rather than DieHard!!

May it be applied to all of us when it comes to.Β Β "going for bust"Β  Β in picking and investing a quarterback and the Cleveland Browns future.

Big gamble andΒ hopefullyΒ good results......we'll find out pretty soon.Β  Β  SuspensionΒ  ?Β  How long ?Β  W/L on the field ?

It's going to get quite interesting.Β 

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I'm so glad Baker's gone. I do wish we had a young Peyton Manning as his replacement, on a standard NFL contract, but I used up my 3rd wish getting my daughter home from Australia for a 6 week visit.... sorry.Β 

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51 minutes ago, D Bone said:

I'm so glad Baker's gone. I do wish we had a young Peyton Manning as his replacement, on a standard NFL contract, but I used up my 3rd wish getting my daughter home from Australia for a 6 week visit.... sorry.Β 

It would have been an interesting offseason if the Browns would have traded for Russell Wilson instead of Deshaun Watson.Β 

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2 hours ago, Canton Dawg said:

And he sat out the 2021 season because he was so mentally and emotionally mature?

He sat out the entire 2021 season for the same exact reason Baker would have sat out this season with the Browns.Β 

He had no interest playing for the team he was contracted to play for.Β 

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28 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

He sat out the entire 2021 season for the same exact reason Baker would have sat out this season with the Browns.Β 

He had no interest playing for the team he was contracted to play for.Β 

Baker never said he would hold out. Matter of fact he left the door open even though I can't imagine why.

WSS

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14 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

Baker never said he would hold out. Matter of fact you left the door open even though I can't imagine why.

WSS

I left what door open?Β 

(Or did you mean to write "Matter of fact he left the door..."?)

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46 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

typo

"he"

He said the team would have to reach out to him which of course they weren't going to. Rightly so if they felt the way they did.

WSS

Not oven door ?Β  Sorry I can't miss a softball lob.Β  Β NotΒ LOB.Β  Β LOL.Β  Β :lol:

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1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said:

It would have been an interesting offseason if the Browns would have traded for Russell Wilson instead of Deshaun Watson.Β 

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Yep, being a Broncos fan too, I want to see what he does there.

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Why don't these morons who are reporting how Mayfield's teammates disliked him, provide some names ore quotes?...because it's B.S., that's why... OBJ??....who gives a crap about that whiney ass prima dona? He never wanted to come here, and tried every angle to get out. He sure as Hell was no top notch receiver here. I could make a video of easy throws that he just dropped that would be longer than the one he produced. Why would Mayfield continue to throw him the ball, when he drops everything he touches?Β 

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40 minutes ago, lodilobo said:

Why don't these morons who are reporting how Mayfield's teammates disliked him, provide some names ore quotes?...because it's B.S., that's why... OBJ??....who gives a crap about that whiney ass prima dona? He never wanted to come here, and tried every angle to get out. He sure as Hell was no top notch receiver here. I could make a video of easy throws that he just dropped that would be longer than the one he produced. Why would Mayfield continue to throw him the ball, when he drops everything he touches?Β 

Probably a couple reasons for not naming names, first of all if you rat out your Source he's probably not going to talk to you ever again. Number two there's nothing else to talk about during this time of the year so they make shit up and call it a rumor. Rumors mock drafts speculation predictions draft grades analysis yada yada yada just something for people to read when there's no real news.

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48 minutes ago, lodilobo said:

Why don't these morons who are reporting how Mayfield's teammates disliked him, provide some names ore quotes?...because it's B.S., that's why.

A couple of months ago I saw a couple of Browns players being interviewed (forget who they were) but each of them said what a good team mate OBJ was.Β  But they also said that Baker was a good team mate too....it's that Baker and OBJ just did not work, for whatever reason.Β  But lets face it, Baker is/was kind of a cocky guy....and he says stuff.Β  So I'm sure there's probably a couple of guys that think he's less than perfect.Β  -Β  We know what Duke Johnson thinks of him.Β  :)

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2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Yep, being a Broncos fan too, I want to see what he does there.

The conflict inside you must be like Luke vs Darth.Β 

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1 hour ago, lodilobo said:

Why don't these morons who are reporting how Mayfield's teammates disliked him, provide some names ore quotes?

Because they don't have any names or quotes.Β  Tony Grossi wanted to be the 1st media squid to announce Baker was going to fail as soon as he was drafted.Β  Then Baker set the Rookie record with 27 TD passes despite only starting 13 games for a team coming off 0-16 football.Β  And guess how many wins Cleveland had when Baker appeared in his 1st game with a 14 point deficit a few minutes before half?Β  They were 0-1-1 coming off that 0-16 football coming off that 1-15 football.Β  Why people want to ACT like Baker doesn't have it within 1 calendar year of being the starter of an 11-5 playoff team that won a playoff game scoring 48 points ON and AT Pittsburgh.Β  Throwing 26 TD passes to only 8 INTS after what this franchise went through the 2 years before Baker came here has me wondering why everyone thinks if we just replace Baker we're all set.Β 

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7 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

He sat out the entire 2021 season for the same exact reason Baker would have sat out this season with the Browns.Β 

He had no interest playing for the team he was contracted to play for.Β 

Just think of the possibility of DW wanting to β€œsit out” on the Browns with that huge contract. He’s done it once, so it’s not out of the realm for him to do it again.

Regardless of who the player is, if you’re under contract and you don’t play…you shouldn’t get paid.

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On 7/9/2022 at 10:42 AM, calfoxwc said:

eh....injury. Playing while injured. Surgery.

Meanwhile, the browns dumped Landry, who wanted to stay with the Browns - and drafted wr, and signed a star deep threat, Cooper.

Nov 4, 2021Doug Dieken explains the issues with the Browns offense including protection, getting open, etc… How Baker's effort of cutting down his turnovers has affected his passing? How to defend Bengals' offense. ... Doug Dieken: Browns are out of sync; offense has underachieved and defense has been inconsistent Listen to the podcast below

I have thought about the injury deal.Β Β 

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My feeling is Baker had some really good games while "injured", so why did the injurt not bother him in those games?

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Just saying

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14 hours ago, D Bone said:

The conflict inside you must be like Luke vs Darth.Β 

LOL! No conflict at all. I lived in Greeley for 3 years way back when the Broncos used it as their pre-season training camp which was open to the public. My nephew has 6 sets of season tickets, 4 which he sells at profits high enough to make the other two free. Easy to be a fan when Von was there. But he ain't and Garrett is a Browns player for life it appears, so no problem siding with the Browns when they play each other. And not a big disappointing loss if the Broncos win unless the Browns have a great shot at the playoffs at that point. I'm a Browncos fan!😁

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