Flugel Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 and THAT is why we dont go QB early......plain and simple,,,, Ask Jax about how inventing something that doesn't exist (football messiah at QB) has worked via spending their 3rd overall pick on Blake Bortles. Their HC has already been fired... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Just saying, the Defense looked good yesterday. We're looking at a lot of impact players entering their second year, hopefully they make the jump. They will be in the second year of their system and with a little continuity they could have an impact. Watch this... If we get the QB #1 and lose out on Garrett, we can still get Hall a little later. But, if we're going to move forward we need a QB that can stabilize the position. McCown is getting old, Griffin and Kessler are not the answer... Trubisky looks like he could be the real deal. The kid is a heck of a QB. His highlight reels show all tools that you're looking for in a QB. He's tall, he has an accurate rocket arm and can make plays with his feet. Just watch this bowl game highlight. Yeah, they end up losing the game but he gave them a chance to win. I went back and watched all of games in which they lost this year. He wasn't the reason when they lost, and if he did have a mistake he battled back and gave them a chance to pull out the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Mitch Trubisky throws such an amazing deep ball! I love the angle and the velocity on his throws... almost looks like that ball is going to go on forever! Then you find a way to take this monster to take over for Crowell and we have an allstar offense. If we want to change our fortunes, let's get these guys and people will be forced to fear playing the Browns. I believe in our Defense... our Offense needs and identity, this would accomplish that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 As much as SEC teams doubled teamed and ran away from Garrett all year long, Hall should have had a better year on the other side of the D. But he didn't. He is late round at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 and THAT is why we dont go QB early......plain and simple,,,, What POG wanted was for Browns to take all offense with our first and 2d round. That is what I disagreed with. No....I think we NEED to go QB at #1.....but with the next 3 picks we go for 2 on defense and an OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Just saying, the Defense looked good yesterday. We're looking at a lot of impact players entering their second year, hopefully they make the jump. They will be in the second year of their system and with a little continuity they could have an impact. Watch this... If we get the QB #1 and lose out on Garrett, we can still get Hall a little later. But, if we're going to move forward we need a QB that can stabilize the position. McCown is getting old, Griffin and Kessler are not the answer... Trubisky looks like he could be the real deal. The kid is a heck of a QB. His highlight reels show all tools that you're looking for in a QB. He's tall, he has an accurate rocket arm and can make plays with his feet. Just watch this bowl game highlight. Yeah, they end up losing the game but he gave them a chance to win. I went back and watched all of games in which they lost this year. He wasn't the reason when they lost, and if he did have a mistake he battled back and gave them a chance to pull out the win. Looked like he had Cam Erving playing center for him on the 2 pointer. Hopefully...to my mind, we take Trub and an OC to go with him: Elflein/Pocic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Mitch Trubisky throws such an amazing deep ball! I love the angle and the velocity on his throws... almost looks like that ball is going to go on forever! Then you find a way to take this monster to take over for Crowell and we have an allstar offense. If we want to change our fortunes, let's get these guys and people will be forced to fear playing the Browns. I believe in our Defense... our Offense needs and identity, this would accomplish that. I don't think that Fournette has any better of a future prospect in this league than Crowell does. Not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 If Crowell was as good as Fournette... Duke Johnson would never see the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I don't think that Fournette has any better of a future prospect in this league than Crowell does. Not at all. I agree Gips. Crow was Freshman of the year in the SEC at UGA and he's had some really good games behind our offensive line this year. He'll get even better any time we can throw the forward pass with any degree of consistency as yesterday depicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Can someone explain to me why some folks here even have fournette on the brain? Why? If there wasvanything on this team thst gives me any modicum of hope its the running game with duke and crow. Im not a fournette hater but we've gotbthe worst defense in football....theres honestly not a position on the entire defense that is locked up. We talk about the front 7 mostly but jesus that secondary needs all kinds of help. Please for the love of god.....no more talk about RB's. Its almost giving the team absolutely no credit and thats such a slit ur wrist mentality. The running gamevis showing serious f'ing promise, now think what the running game could be if our o line gets addressed through FA or the draft..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 75% of that highlight tape is Fournette running through massive holes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Can someone explain to me why some folks here even have fournette on the brain? Why? If there wasvanything on this team thst gives me any modicum of hope its the running game with duke and crow. Im not a fournette hater but we've gotbthe worst defense in football....theres honestly not a position on the entire defense that is locked up. We talk about the front 7 mostly but jesus that secondary needs all kinds of help. Please for the love of god.....no more talk about RB's. Its almost giving the team absolutely no credit and thats such a slit ur wrist mentality. The running gamevis showing serious f'ing promise, now think what the running game could be if our o line gets addressed through FA or the draft..... Good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 75% of that highlight tape is Fournette running through massive holes Indeed, but what I see is he doesn't get caught from behind. Besides, it's the other 25% of the plays when things do break down and he does it on his own, that is where I see the need in Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Can someone explain to me why some folks here even have fournette on the brain? Why? Because they think by drafting him we'll become the Cowboys over night. Nevermind having quality skill players, the best Oline in the NFL, a capable QB, and stable front office/coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 If Crowell was as good as Fournette... Duke Johnson would never see the field. You have just fallen in love again PoG. Look, my advocacy for Trubisky is the same as why I wanted Bosa last year: a top player filling a desperate team need. Purely logical. I see Fournette as no better than Dalvin Cook and some others. And this may be the LAST position of need on this team. So, so, so much more is needed on this team before we go looking for a running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Like I said in the other thread. The top player in a weak draft class. You're addressing the position for the sake of it at that point. Would you take Aaron Donald, or Blake Bortles?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 MKC tweeted. . . #Browns Brown on Pryor and Collins: "Our plan on both of those players is to try to extend them without using the (franchise) tag'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Like I said in the other thread. The top player in a weak draft class. You're addressing the position for the sake of it at that point. Would you take Aaron Donald, or Blake Bortles?? Who are you talking to? PoG re Fournette? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 75% of that highlight tape is Fournette running through massive holes Trent Richardson part 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Fournette's injury issues eliminate him from early 1st consideration here... http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings If we took the players that fall at #1, #14/15 and #33 I'd be semi-happy... 1. Allen (DE/DT) - BAMA 12. Thomas (DE) 33. Kizer (QB) Thomas is a good player, but I can't see dounbling down at DE this high. So that #12 pick may be a tad problematic, but someone will fall to us should Trubs jump up... please be Foster... please be Foster... If no one does fall, then a modest trade down can still land us a quality CB or maybe OLB Tim Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Fournette's injury issues eliminate him from early 1st consideration here... If we took the players that fall at #1, #14/15 and #33 I'd be semi-happy... 1. Allen (DE/DT) - BAMA 12. Thomas (DE) 33. Kizer (QB) Thomas is a good player, but I can't see dounbling down at DE this high. So that #12 pick may be a tad problematic, but someone will fall to us should Trubs jump up... please be Foster... please be Foster... If no one does fall, then a modest trade down can still land us a quality CB or maybe OLB Tim Williams. I have a feeling Malik Hooker will end up showing around that #12 spot, which would be lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Yeah, no kidding about Hooker. He'd fill a huge need, and I heard someone say he's the best pure free safety prospect since Ed Reid. The problem with picking Hooker is...who do we get to be our damn QB? Can we really pass on Garrett? Do we really want another second or third round rookie QB prospect? Ugh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Yeah, no kidding about Hooker. He'd fill a huge need, and I heard someone say he's the best pure free safety prospect since Ed Reid. The problem with picking Hooker is...who do we get to be our damn QB? Can we really pass on Garrett? Do we really want another second or third round rookie QB prospect? Ugh.... If we don't take a QB with one of our first rounders, there's no point taking a QB to be honest. But imagine a draft looking like Myles Garrett, Malik Hooker, Adoree' Jackson, Pat Elflein...I could live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hooker entering the picture helps push Foster down... ... but I would not mind Hooker being the pick. QB-wise... I really like Kizer at #33. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 It's kinda fun having #1 and #12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hooker entering the picture helps push Foster down... ... but I would not mind Hooker being the pick. QB-wise... I really like Kizer at #33. Notre Dame Homer? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Notre Dame Homer? Far from it, Sir Kilts-a-Lot. I have never been a fan of the Domers... just like Kizer's chances enough to spend the 33 on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Word is that Josh Allen QB from Wyoming may be declaring. From what I watched of him, he has the physical tools but is another project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Far from it, Sir Kilts-a-Lot. I have never been a fan of the Domers... just like Kizer's chances enough to spend the 33 on him. Kizer is going to make 31 teams upset they passed on him, IMO. Not a ND fan in the least, save for the fact that I'm Catholic so I have to be. His flaws are manageable and his strengths are franchise-material. There is something to be said for a guy who can drop dimes anywhere on the field while under pressure, which there is no denying Kizer can do. It's working out the kinks in the rest of his game that's the concern. Perfect pick for #33. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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