Zombo Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Ok, the whole badass comment l made, that was kinda stupid of me. A few beers, l got a little worked up, and it somehow struck a chord with my inner 13 year old. I deserve all the shit l'm given for it. Your avatar is still badass. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Ok, the whole badass comment l made, that was kinda stupid of me. A few beers, l got a little worked up, and it somehow struck a chord with my inner 13 year old. I deserve all the shit l'm given for it. Lol welcome to the " I made a dumbass knee jerk post club". Virtually every member of the board belongs to it. Welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDog Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 RED= What I said pre draft. JF just found out the hard way- elusive in college and elusive in the pros are two different things. All of a sudden, he doesn't look so fast- because everyone else is as fast, or faster. Surprise this hasn't been mentioned and noticed yet. He was chased down by a 3rd string DE in last night's game. College fast just isn't the same as NFL fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WudupDAWG Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 This thread is a perfect example of the double standard. It's preseason. And it's football, not knitting class. There plenty of "fuck you's" flying around at any given moment on a football field, whether verbal or hand gesture, it's the same thing. In fact, it's no different than the "fucks" and "shits" that get bleeped out of most of today's pop music and daytime TV, or when you can clearly lip read the vulgarity that comes out of a lot of these "professionals" mouths. It doesn't really matter how it's communicated, a "fuck you" is a "fuck you", but what the real issue is here, is WHO it is coming from. When rules only apply to certain people, that is a double standard. Anyone else can get away with this without a peep from the media. The ONLY reason this is an issue, is because the networks KNOW that anything they put out on the air about JF will be watched by millions, so they find ANY reason to create DRAMA, because most of their viewers subconciously want to watch soap operas with their wives. Society has turned into a bunch of nancies, and the double standard is EXACTLY what is wrong with this country today. Personally, I like his brand of football and fiery competitiveness. If I wanted to watch a "classy" sport, I'd watch golf or tennis. Acting like football is this safe-haven for choir boys is ridiculous. And spare me the whole shtick about "he should know better" and "this proves he isn't ready". Yes, he should know better than to give the media any more ammo, but let's face it, if this were not covered by the media as a storyline, NOBODY would give a shit. It's not that people care that it happened, it's that it came from Johnny, AND it's that Browns fans are tired of being the punchline in an ongoing joke, and then you have the haters out there.Before passing judgement on someone, look in the mirror and ask yourself if you have ever done the same before being a hypocrite and condemning this type of behavior. Not saying it is right, there is a time and place for it, but I wasn't offended by it either. I know none of you have been in JF's situation, but this is what I am talking about with the double standard. We all can sit on our internet soapbox and scold people from afar, anonymously, and act like we are sooo much better than that, but we all know that the truth is, it's mostly just jealousy. And low self-esteem. If you are embarrassed because a kid threw the bird at someone else, it's probably because your life is so lame that you have to live vicariously through a football team and when a player from your favorite team acts a certain way, it somehow reflects bad on you so you have to tear the kid down in self-preservation. THAT is LAME! I have been a fan of a losing team, but NEVER turned on the players, and NEVER felt inferior because my favorite football team wasn't winning, or when they did things that were totally classless. I know who I am, and don't need a football team to dictate my identity or validate my character as a man. For those of you saying no other QBs use that word in a football game, here are a few other prominent QB's that were listed above, giving a few fucks. It's not the bird, but the actual word that the gesture represents, which is just as bad if not worse. It's football, and if you are offended by that type of language or behavior, try a different sport. I hear ballet and figure skating needs a few fans. Tom Brady gives a Fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XEZIQwuryM Payton Manning gives a Fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUlrCH6gLQw Andrew Luck gives a Fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3gpjeKntWA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Hey cockaholic, imagine an entire platoon of middle fingers coming your way. Joe Namath Kenny Stabler Jim Kelly and Brett Favre would have done it. WSS But they didn't... I used to oversee a large construction Co. group of people.. There were always one or two guys out of the couple hundred that by their own actions ended up wearing duct tape signs on their backs at the end of the day to the grocery store and then home that said.. "I like it up the ass".. Or having someone piss in their tin of Skoal.. JF is starting to remind me a lot of those guys.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Plenty of pro's have done this over the years and they have also received the same criticism..... This isnt some double standard created by intense media scrutiny, this was freaking Monday Night Football....in front of millions of people and cameras.....and he KNOWS they are watching, yet still acts the fool.... If I was at the biggest interview / audition of my life....and the whole world was watching.....and it was being televised world wide.....and my bosses and coaches and fans were all watching every step(and I knew it).......then I wouldnt do something stupid like that..... Bottom line........immature is immature and quality stands up to scrutiny..(no matter how intense) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 WTF has happened to civilization? . I was producing a documentary sound track today and the guy doing the vocals, a pretty prominent pop singer form Atlanta, engaged a few of us about BROWNS football and Johnny Manziel. Well WTF!!! If a pretty predominant POP singer from Atlanta was down with the Khomeini salute then who am I to question?? I stand corrected.. You kinda answered the overriding question with your first comment tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 But they didn't... I used to oversee a large construction Co. group of people.. There were always one or two guys out of the couple hundred that by their own actions ended up wearing duct tape signs on their backs at the end of the day to the grocery store and then home that said.. "I like it up the ass".. Or having someone piss in their tin of Skoal.. JF is starting to remind me a lot of those guys.. I pray those guys realized there was piss in their skoal although a grown man that dips skoal probably deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Nope.....just pointing out the stupidity in your statement. Well at least it upset a few Squeeler trolls and that's a bonus. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 You have lofty goals there SteveAnd yet I'm not spending my time on a Pittsburgh Steeler board crying about the Washington fucking Redskins getting flipped off. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Anyone else getting that Vibe from Haslam, Farmer, & Pettine? I can guarantee knowing what they know now with all the off field stories, the abysmal Monday Night game, media frenzy, and all the hype they wouldn't of drafted him. I bet they would have stayed pat at 26 and taken Bridgewater or Carr. I don't know why, I'm just getting that vibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 @MaryKayCabot 12s Johnny Manziel started losing this job right after the draft when he partied his brains out. Continued losing it right through middle finger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 This thread is a perfect example of the double standard. It's preseason. And it's football, not knitting class. There plenty of "fuck you's" flying around at any given moment on a football field, whether verbal or hand gesture, it's the same thing. In fact, it's no different than the "fucks" and "shits" that get bleeped out of most of today's pop music and daytime TV, or when you can clearly lip read the vulgarity that comes out of a lot of these "professionals" mouths. It doesn't really matter how it's communicated, a "fuck you" is a "fuck you", but what the real issue is here, is WHO it is coming from. When rules only apply to certain people, that is a double standard. Anyone else can get away with this without a peep from the media. The ONLY reason this is an issue, is because the networks KNOW that anything they put out on the air about JF will be watched by millions, so they find ANY reason to create DRAMA, because most of their viewers subconciously want to watch soap operas with their wives. Society has turned into a bunch of nancies, and the double standard is EXACTLY what is wrong with this country today. Personally, I like his brand of football and fiery competitiveness. If I wanted to watch a "classy" sport, I'd watch golf or tennis. Acting like football is this safe-haven for choir boys is ridiculous. And spare me the whole shtick about "he should know better" and "this proves he isn't ready". Yes, he should know better than to give the media any more ammo, but let's face it, if this were not covered by the media as a storyline, NOBODY would give a shit. It's not that people care that it happened, it's that it came from Johnny, AND it's that Browns fans are tired of being the punchline in an ongoing joke, and then you have the haters out there. Before passing judgement on someone, look in the mirror and ask yourself if you have ever done the same before being a hypocrite and condemning this type of behavior. Not saying it is right, there is a time and place for it, but I wasn't offended by it either. I know none of you have been in JF's situation, but this is what I am talking about with the double standard. We all can sit on our internet soapbox and scold people from afar, anonymously, and act like we are sooo much better than that, but we all know that the truth is, it's mostly just jealousy. And low self-esteem. If you are embarrassed because a kid threw the bird at someone else, it's probably because your life is so lame that you have to live vicariously through a football team and when a player from your favorite team acts a certain way, it somehow reflects bad on you so you have to tear the kid down in self-preservation. THAT is LAME! I have been a fan of a losing team, but NEVER turned on the players, and NEVER felt inferior because my favorite football team wasn't winning, or when they did things that were totally classless. I know who I am, and don't need a football team to dictate my identity or validate my character as a man. For those of you saying no other QBs use that word in a football game, here are a few other prominent QB's that were listed above, giving a few fucks. It's not the bird, but the actual word that the gesture represents, which is just as bad if not worse. It's football, and if you are offended by that type of language or behavior, try a different sport. I hear ballet and figure skating needs a few fans. Tom Brady gives a Fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XEZIQwuryM Payton Manning gives a Fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUlrCH6gLQw Andrew Luck gives a Fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3gpjeKntWA This is the post of the year...2 thumbs up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdl15 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 http://www.google.com/url?url=http://vimeo.com/57290502&rct=j&frm=1&q=&esrc=s&sa=U&ei=zp30U8i9KczboASopoKYDw&ved=0CBwQtwIwAA&usg=AFQjCNEhO-bFU4uOZPZwrr5uXOrwDJv-VQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bammer Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 His stock went up in my book. Id be frustrated as hell, the penalties, the dropped passes, being under a microscope, fighting for your career. You guys flip out on this board when someone looks at you wrong. Nice to see he is human. Isn't that just life and having a career in sports? Penalties and drops happen in every game, as far as being under the microscope and fighting for his career, well duh, he's a rookie looking to be "The Man", if that rattles him, well best he should be moving on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I think your mom regrets not having an abortion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 It just all comes down to play. I'm not ready to hit the panic button because a rookie QB looked mediocre in a pre-season game, but it's admittedly discouraging. If Manziel lives up to the hype though Cleveland as a football team and city will relish drafting him. Only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 If you think that is true then that should play out in a trade soon. When it doesn't happen then come back and recant the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I would have drafted Teddy... But whatever... #Winston2015 #Mariotta2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvcanedy Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 #conjecture #pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I can't believe the TMZ bitch gossip on here sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Im sure it has crossed their minds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Its not like there werent signals.. From autograph-gate to the rolling 20. I know i regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I love the jerry jones story that his son had to physically restrain him with the Manziel draft card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I think Pettine would rather have not had the distractions, but who could have been taken in the 1st round, competed and not have created the bulk of the current mess? I do not think any of the Browns' brain trust are to the regret stage yet... but many have "found religion"... praying Hoyer does well enough for them to bring JM along. Just as they'd hoped all along. If you think that is true then that should play out in a trade soon. When it doesn't happen then come back and recant the thread. I love seeing a word for the first time here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Isn't that just life and having a career in sports? Penalties and drops happen in every game, as far as being under the microscope and fighting for his career, well duh, he's a rookie looking to be "The Man", if that rattles him, well best he should be moving on ? He has it way worse than any other player, even Ray Rice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDog Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I would have drafted Teddy... But whatever... #Winston2015 #Mariotta2015 Already time for #SuckForMariotta? If ONLY we would had trust our own QB analysis that pointed to Teddy all the way. That 'wreck' the league text set us back 2-3 years. It's only been 2 pre-season game but Teddy already have a game winning drive under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDog Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Anyone else getting that Vibe from Haslam, Farmer, & Pettine? I can guarantee knowing what they know now with all the off field stories, the abysmal Monday Night game, media frenzy, and all the hype they wouldn't of drafted him. I bet they would have stayed pat at 26 and taken Bridgewater or Carr. I don't know why, I'm just getting that vibe. Could it be possible he just isn't performing on and off the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuwoohio Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 OMFG. Literally it would be like regretting getting married before the honeymoon. If there was any chance that that's the case then the Browns are doomed for eternity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 This is one great thing about the rookie salary cap. If JF doesnt pan out, we havent blown the bankroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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