TexasAg1969 Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Bob806 said: Right. Haslam wants to win so bad he lost his mind (again). Sometimes I wish the NFL had a "Stepien Rule." Ah, when they are old like that we call them Manziel Moments, the NFL equivalent to Senior Moments.😁👨🦳 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 The Watson story is the flavor of the month for sports media. Did players kneeling ruin the league? Did Ben R.? Bobby Kraft? Jerry J? Daniel Snyder? Rubeun Foster? Josh Brown? Myles Garrett violence on the field? Tom Brady deflating balls for a competitive advantage? Numerous Drug and Alcohol issues across the league? How many times have we heard “I’ll never watch again” and a lot this comes from the media stoking the fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, SdBacker80 said: The Watson story is the flavor of the month for sports media. Did players kneeling ruin the league? Did Ben R.? Bobby Kraft? Jerry J? Daniel Snyder? Rubeun Foster? Josh Brown? Myles Garrett violence on the field? Tom Brady deflating balls for a competitive advantage? Numerous Drug and Alcohol issues across the league? How many times have we heard “I’ll never watch again” and a lot this comes from the media stoking the fire oh, please. You are comparing those with 60 women being..... come on. That is trying too hard to ratonalize it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: oh, please. You are comparing those with 60 women being..... come on. That is trying too hard to ratonalize it away. Being….what? Calling him back for services. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted June 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 7:34 AM, Riffer X said: Deshaun Watson's NFL hearing to continue through at least Wednesday, source says Also some interesting information on other drafted quarterbacks and others already on the teams in the same link worth a look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, calfoxwc said: oh, please. You are comparing those with 60 women being..... come on. That is trying too hard to ratonalize it away. Physician heal thyself.🙉🙈 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/browns/2022/06/30/deshaun-watson-active-civil-lawsuits-revealed-20-settled/7780237001/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 To be honest, at this point, I don't care if he showed his brown snake to these masseuses at all. The more important question is how many yards Watson can throw for after the pocket collapses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 Jimmy's Take: 'Interesting' developments in Deshaun Watson case | wkyc.com 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted July 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 I like Jimmy's Cleveland BROWNS helmet with the circle arrow logo...is he coming or going ? Does he know OR care? That's good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 hours ago, mjp28 said: I like Jimmy's Cleveland BROWNS helmet with the circle arrow logo It also works for the continuous rebuild process. Somehow I hear Charles Barkley's voice in my head when I see that picture " The Browns keep refreshing, and refreshing, and refreshing..........." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 8 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: Jimmy's Take: 'Interesting' developments in Deshaun Watson case | wkyc.com Very interesting, from what Jimmy is saying it could be good news for the Browns. But then again Roger and the NFL has it out for Cleveland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 9 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: Jimmy's Take: 'Interesting' developments in Deshaun Watson case | wkyc.com Consistent with the Grand Jury findings that folks either don’t comprehend or don’t want to acknowledge. If this wasn’t the case he would have been indicted. The organization or any other for that matter wouldn’t have pursued him and he would have been on the Commissioners exempt list….and rightfully so. He sat out a year. Give Him a fine, scold him, give him four games so The Karen’s and Kevin’s and all these media folks get their quarter pound of flesh. And trade Baker please. and let’s get ready for camp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 hours ago, 7moses7 said: Very interesting, from what Jimmy is saying it could be good news for the Browns. But then again Roger and the NFL has it out for Cleveland How exactly does the NFL and Roger Goodell have it out for Cleveland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 13 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: How exactly does the NFL and Roger Goodell have it out for Cleveland? I hear ya. I'll quote Keith Ried: "Made only more painful by the knowledge that all that I have is of my own making. " 🌞 WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/browns-maven-features/watson-likely-to-see-field-in-2022 Report: Deshaun Watson Likely To See Field in 2022 Tony Grossi of ESPN Cleveland reported that quarterback Deshaun Watson is "likely" to see the field in some capacity in 2022. Quarterback Deshaun Watson's hearing with the NFL and judge Sue Robinson concluded on Thursday afternoon. Several interesting subplots emerged from the process, with many saying that things are trending in Watson's direction. The star quarterback and his team allegedly pushed for zero discipline from the league office. They suggested that an unprecedented punishment was unfair considering the league didn't exercise harsh discipline unto owners Dan Snyder and Robert Kraft, both of whom dealt with similar allegations. While zero discipline is highly unlikely, it appears that the punishment won't be as extreme as some initially thought. The NFL reportedly leaked they hoped for an indefinite suspension with the idea of making Watson and his team cave into a longer suspension. However, Watson held firm and could stand to gain from it. ESPN's Tony Grossi reported that he had two separate sources say that Watson would see the field in some capacity during the 2022 season. Grossi added that both sources maintained anonymity because they weren't authorized to share details on the hearing. While the discussions went on behind closed doors, information continued to trickle out. The league office supposedly admitted they are seeking an unprecedented suspension, but the NFLPA maintained that the discrepancy between the owners' punishment and Watson's is unacceptable. We seem to be trending towards a suspension between six and eight games. No one can predict Judge Robinson's decision, but the code of conduct specifically outlined this situation. If the league is unable to argue that a player's conduct was violent or with malicious intent, then the baseline for such allegations is six games. That would align with quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and running back Ezekiel Elliot's suspensions earlier in the decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 Browns wanted zero, NFL wants the season. Likely 6-9 games is what the compromise will be. Shield doesn't get to look "weak" and the Brownies can float around .500 with some quality play and coaching, enough to give Deshaun a punchers chance and pushing them to the playoffs when he returns to the field. Shocked if it ends up being anything else. So.... moving on then. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 If it does end up being a 6-8 game suspension, it will be what most of us expected back on March 18th when his signing with the Browns was announced. What a long road it has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted July 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, tiamat63 said: Browns wanted zero, NFL wants the season. Likely 6-9 games is what the compromise will be. Shield doesn't get to look "weak" and the Brownies can float around .500 with some quality play and coaching, enough to give Deshaun a punchers chance and pushing them to the playoffs when he returns to the field. Shocked if it ends up being anything else. So.... moving on then. A lot of hoopla for about an 8½ game suspension. ● Then can DW resurrect his football career to near 100% ? ● Can DW get any of the stench off his personal life ? (Does it matter much ?) ● And most importantly how does this affect the BROWNS and their drive for the playoffs....the reason he was brought here ? Right ? Geeezzz doesn't this seem like it has been going on for years, I believe that the players will be ready to rock and roll ! Edited July 2, 2022 by mjp28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 Cal, Nickers, Steve and PoG when Deshaun plays week 8 and throws 3 TDs in the first half... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: If it does end up being a 6-8 game suspension, it will be what most of us expected back on March 18th when his signing with the Browns was announced. What a long road it has been. I expected 8. I think 6. I believe his career and life being interrupted like it was is enough. But I Wouldn’t be surprised with 4. Too many people were being spoon fed by Florio and Co….Anyone follow Florio lately? the new joker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 I'm not too familiar with this new process of deciding suspensions. It used to be Roger GoToHell would suspend a player for whatever he wanted too. Like Gordon...multiple indefinite suspensions. Is there much of a history of this gal's rulings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 On 6/30/2022 at 11:19 AM, SdBacker80 said: The Watson story is the flavor of the month for sports media. Did players kneeling ruin the league? Did Ben R.? Bobby Kraft? Jerry J? Daniel Snyder? Rubeun Foster? Josh Brown? Myles Garrett violence on the field? Tom Brady deflating balls for a competitive advantage? Numerous Drug and Alcohol issues across the league? How many times have we heard “I’ll never watch again” and a lot this comes from the media stoking the fire None of those instances completely destroyed the game, you are correct. That's a pretty low bar you are setting if you want to pimp Watson but it's your money. WSS (and I will keep repeating that plenty of brilliant entertainers and public figures have had their entire careers destroyed by much lesser allegations) Also please note one of the rules of the Browns board. Any act of violence during a football game directed toward a Pittsburgh Steeler is completely fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 13 hours ago, D Bone said: Cal, Nickers, Steve and PoG when Deshaun plays week 8 and throws 3 TDs in the first half... If I were a lesser man I might suggest you suck my cock. That is when you finish sucking DeShaun Watson's. Just for the record my position has ALWAYS been that I will hold my nose and still root for the browns. Frankly I hope he gets hurt and Jacoby Brissett goes to the playoffs. And though I will wish him well wherever he goes I will not purchase a Mayfield Carolina or Seattle Jersey like some of you did for a Dallas or Miami Kosar Jersey. WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korsou Dawg Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 21 hours ago, Vambo said: https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/browns-maven-features/watson-likely-to-see-field-in-2022 Report: Deshaun Watson Likely To See Field in 2022 Tony Grossi of ESPN Cleveland reported that quarterback Deshaun Watson is "likely" to see the field in some capacity in 2022. Quarterback Deshaun Watson's hearing with the NFL and judge Sue Robinson concluded on Thursday afternoon. Several interesting subplots emerged from the process, with many saying that things are trending in Watson's direction. The star quarterback and his team allegedly pushed for zero discipline from the league office. They suggested that an unprecedented punishment was unfair considering the league didn't exercise harsh discipline unto owners Dan Snyder and Robert Kraft, both of whom dealt with similar allegations. While zero discipline is highly unlikely, it appears that the punishment won't be as extreme as some initially thought. The NFL reportedly leaked they hoped for an indefinite suspension with the idea of making Watson and his team cave into a longer suspension. However, Watson held firm and could stand to gain from it. ESPN's Tony Grossi reported that he had two separate sources say that Watson would see the field in some capacity during the 2022 season. Grossi added that both sources maintained anonymity because they weren't authorized to share details on the hearing. While the discussions went on behind closed doors, information continued to trickle out. The league office supposedly admitted they are seeking an unprecedented suspension, but the NFLPA maintained that the discrepancy between the owners' punishment and Watson's is unacceptable. We seem to be trending towards a suspension between six and eight games. No one can predict Judge Robinson's decision, but the code of conduct specifically outlined this situation. If the league is unable to argue that a player's conduct was violent or with malicious intent, then the baseline for such allegations is six games. That would align with quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and running back Ezekiel Elliot's suspensions earlier in the decade. Hate to say I told you folks so, but that is exactly what @SdBacker80 and I have been doing. Snowed under by so many whiny drama-queen comments, it's no wonder these guys are pining for Baker LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 49 minutes ago, Korsou Dawg said: Hate to say I told you folks so, but that is exactly what @SdBacker80 and I have been doing. Snowed under by so many whiny drama-queen comments, it's no wonder these guys are pining for Baker LOL. Awww you feel better now child?... A decision hasn't been made yet... I'm sure you and Dutch can't wait to be the first to lineup.... Genuflect and worship his pud... But hey.. I expect that from sellouts like you two... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 41 minutes ago, nickers said: Awww you feel better now child?... A decision hasn't been made yet... I'm sure you and Dutch can't wait to be the first to lineup.... Genuflect and worship his pud... But hey.. I expect that from sellouts like you two... Not sure why I'm getting thrown into this, but it warms the cockles of my heart to know nickers is thinking of me, even if he has me on ignore. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 Just now, Dutch Oven said: Not sure why I'm getting thrown into this, but it warms the cockles of my heart to know nickers is thinking of me, even if he has me on ignore. 😁 You mean the kind of ignore that you can see only if someone else quotes what he is ignoring?🙈😱😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 1 minute ago, TexasAg1969 said: You mean the kind of ignore that you can see only if someone else quotes what he is ignoring?🙈😱😂 Sure, I guess 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 13 hours ago, Orion said: I'm not too familiar with this new process of deciding suspensions. It used to be Roger GoToHell would suspend a player for whatever he wanted too. Like Gordon...multiple indefinite suspensions. Is there much of a history of this gal's rulings? This is her first with the NFL. I would expect more fact finding and a commitment to due process. https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2022/06/who-is-sue-l-robinson-the-retired-federal-judge-hearing-the-deshaun-watson-disciplinary-case.html?outputType=amp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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